JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, JetFan20 said: I think it’s a very real possibility the NFL season will be cancelled. Restaurants and Bars need to open soon. It’s a trillion dollar industry that cannot survive an 18 month shutdown. Realistically I think we are all back to work by May under restrictions: Suspend all non-essential air travel Reduced seating/capacity in bars and restaurants Draft Beer and Drinks to be served in disposable plastic cups Food served on disposable plates/utensils All retail outlets institute rules/guidelines similar to what supermarkets are doing No large gatherings (sports, concerts, 10Ks until further notice) Gyms continue to close (workout outside) Beaches close Barber Shops/HairSalons can open up Hotels/Motels can open up Realistically the highest public health risks are the the sports and entertainment/airline industry. Both can survive an 18 month shutdown. Golf and baseball being played without fans are not high risk activities. Football and basketball players are definitely in constant contact but with sufficient testing you can play with very minimal risk. Any sports with stadiums filled with people is likely not going to happen until there is a vaccine. The bigger question is whether the NCAA can play games. It's one thing for professional athletes to take on a risk it's another to ask kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RutgersJetFan Posted April 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, varjet said: This is America. The country is going to open up sooner than we think. We are not going to keep the entire country on lockdown to save the lives of the old and unhealthy. It would be nice if we could, but we can’t. When the healthcare system can manage those that get sick, we will start opening up. We are not far off. Sports are a different animal. Sports with live large crowds coming back this year is unlikely, and whether the sport comes back is probably dependent on the nature of the game. Think about the game of football, all the coaches, medical staff, and face-to-face contact that happens on every play between players. Baseball is doable since hardly anyone touches each other. Even boxing and MMA are doable because it's such a small number of people coming into contact with each other, so there is an element of control you can administer with testing and procedures with the 3-4 coaches a doctors needed for a fight. Football? No way. Too many moving parts, too much testing needed, too much risk every game between traveling and all the resources/people needed. What sports fans are forgetting is it's not about the athletes being at risk, these guys then leave the stadium and possibly become carriers again due to all the contact. Even without large crowds in the stands, a football player will come into contact with large crowds and an incredibly high amount of resources that people have touched even before the game. The cost of controlling for all that is absurd. It's a bummer but I legit don't think we are having a season. Hard to imagine contact team sports coming back this year at all tbh. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, JetFan20 said: How about an auction instead of a draft? Whomever drafts Trevor Lawrence will have to relinquish 2022,2023,2024 1st round picks. If you don’t use your first round pick in 2021 you get another in 2022. That’s interesting and creative, but then what do you do for pick 2, 3, etc. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted April 11, 2020 Author Share Posted April 11, 2020 50 minutes ago, TeddEY said: So, you want 80K tests administered outside of a stadium, and then we'll wait for results? Do we line up on Tuesday? And where do these tests come from, as sick people can't even get them if they're not sick enough? Also, what do we do with all the people exposed by the person who tested positive? Have you been living under a rock? Instant testing will be available eventually. How else do you think we open up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFan20 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, T0mShane said: That’s interesting and creative, but then what do you do for pick 2, 3, etc. ? Same thing. You can pick nobody and have twice as many picks in 2022. Id bet it would be a limited draft as majority of players will return to school. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted April 11, 2020 Author Share Posted April 11, 2020 41 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Can you please change the thread title? This is misleading and makes it sound like the league is discussing cancelling the season. If you don’t think they have you are also living under a rock 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 They'll limit attendance to 50% capacity. Probably issue paper masks, to everyone at the gate. By the end of august they'll be more than one effective anti-viral for the virus. Just some butthole trying to get attention. The new scare tactic by the mainstream media will be the deadly second wave, coming in November or December. It's so predictable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Golf and baseball being played without fans are not high risk activities. Football and basketball players are definitely in constant contact but with sufficient testing you can play with very minimal risk. Any sports with stadiums filled with people is likely not going to happen until there is a vaccine. The bigger question is whether the NCAA can play games. It's one thing for professional athletes to take on a risk it's another to ask kids. For football, you can test the players, coaches, trainers, doctors, before every game, sure. Extremely high cost, but let's assume we do that. Even given that, think of the amount of things a football player is going to have to touch that are completely out of their control, and the cost of sterilizing all of those things before a game. I don't think it's happening. Completely agree on baseball and golf, and even some other contact things which make sense (i.e. like WWE did with Wrestlemania), there are elements of control that don't have nearly the cost for that. For football it seems like an abyss of endless and contingencies that are probably too costly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 21 minutes ago, JetFan20 said: I think it’s a very real possibility the NFL season will be cancelled. Restaurants and Bars need to open soon. It’s a trillion dollar industry that cannot survive an 18 month shutdown. Realistically I think we are all back to work by May under restrictions: Suspend all non-essential air travel Reduced seating/capacity in bars and restaurants Draft Beer and Drinks to be served in disposable plastic cups Food served on disposable plates/utensils All retail outlets institute rules/guidelines similar to what supermarkets are doing No large gatherings (sports, concerts, 10Ks until further notice) Gyms continue to close (workout outside) Beaches close Barber Shops/HairSalons can open up Hotels/Motels can open up Realistically the greatest public health risks are the the sports and entertainment/airline industry. Both can survive an 18 month shutdown. Restaurants operate on such thin profit margins that reduced seating capacity would not be feasible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 If you have an NFL season even with no fans it’s not just the players but other staff, doctors, coaches etc. You could operate it from one location and try to avoid travel. There will be hotels involved, families, drivers, maintenance people. You could pick a locality like Honolulu, house the players at resorts and bus them in to play games at Aloha Stadium. But if just one player gets a positive (and some in pro sports have) it could spread through an entire team etc. There’s a lot of people involved even with no fans. I think the China Basketball Association was contemplating finishing their season with no fans and brought back the players but they for now have put that on hold. In the 1918 pandemic it started with a bang, then lessened but later was a lot worse. Look I didn’t like watching the 2018 Jets Browns game the other day it was the featured game I think on NFLN. I had to take it off. And I didn’t like watching that feature on Drew Bledsoe about losing his job to Brady and how it was such a devastating blow to his ego. Too bad the guy owns a vineyard, a beautiful home he’s rich. Talk about the good life. But I also don’t want a million people dying needlessly. I’ll watch Brady highlights if I have to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Why not just play without fans? TV rating will probably be thru the roof this fall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: For football, you can test the players, coaches, trainers, doctors, before every game, sure. Extremely high cost, but let's assume we do that. Even given that, think of the amount of things a football player is going to have to touch that are completely out of their control, and the cost of sterilizing all of those things before a game. I don't think it's happening. Completely agree on baseball and golf, and even some other contact things which make sense (i.e. like WWE did with Wrestlemania), there are elements of control that don't have nearly the cost for that. For football it seems like an abyss of endless and contingencies that are probably too costly. I think people would be very into football coming back until they see that inevitably a percentage of players are coming down with COVID and then the sport has to close up again anyway after two weeks. It’d be a cluster****. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted April 11, 2020 Author Share Posted April 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, jmat321 said: Why not just play without fans? TV rating will probably be thru the roof this fall. Player union will bit^* about player safety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 A recent poll said fans don’t want to go to stadiums until there is a vaccine 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, kevinc855 said: Player union will bit^* about player safety Pretty sure the players union will want their players to earn a living. Do you think the NFL is going to pay the players to NOT play? It's simply a balancing act. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Larz said: A recent poll said fans don’t want to go to stadiums until there is a vaccine Judging by parks and outdoors in general I find that hard to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil O Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 29 minutes ago, JetFan20 said: I think it’s a very real possibility the NFL season will be cancelled. Restaurants and Bars need to open soon. It’s a trillion dollar industry that cannot survive an 18 month shutdown. Realistically I think we are all back to work by May under restrictions: Suspend all non-essential air travel Reduced seating/capacity in bars and restaurants Draft Beer and Drinks to be served in disposable plastic cups Food served on disposable plates/utensils All retail outlets institute rules/guidelines similar to what supermarkets are doing No large gatherings (sports, concerts, 10Ks until further notice) Gyms continue to close (workout outside) Beaches close Barber Shops/HairSalons can open up Hotels/Motels can open up Realistically the greatest public health risks are the the sports and entertainment/airline industry. Both can survive an 18 month shutdown. Unfortunately some of the Entertainment industry is already folding. I am a professional actor and all of my future gigs have been cancelled. Both in Theatre and TV. Of course the industry as a whole will survive but there are a lot of projects that were slated to start the summer that have been canceled and will never be done. It’s going to affect a lot of writers more than anything, especially playwrights. Pretty much any new play that was scheduled has been canceled instead of being postponed. Whereas some TV and movie gigs are just being postponed until the fall. Also the entire commercial department of my agency has been let go. Even though the industry itself will survive there are a lot of people who are going to be out of work for a very long time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenReaper Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, genot said: This doctor must be personal friends with that senate physician who said 150 million Americans will become infected. All the b.s. that's being pushed by a bunch of fearmonger's with their own agenda's. Fear is the mind killer. Media/politicians/big pharma have agenda's and want to make tools out us. Using problem-reaction-solution methods. Suggestion to all...do your own research and come to your own conclusions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Better get into baseball imo. MLB's plan... 1. Play all games in Arizona. 2. No fans. 3. No dugout. Players sit spread apart in stands. 4. Umpires stand further back. Camera n computers used to call strikes/balls. And even that's risky. The NFL can't come close to that in "social distancing" terms. Baseball is our only hope for sports this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I think people would be very into football coming back until they see that inevitably a percentage of players are coming down with COVID and then the sport has to close up again anyway after two weeks. It’d be a cluster****. Right. And the scarier part of all that is they could have all acted as carriers before any started showing symptoms. Hard to imagine any of this being doable. No audience is a huge loss of income. The cost of accounting for every little minutiae in ensuring nobody transmits is preposterous. Now balance that out with the loss of revenue from no crowds at the games. Tbh if I were the NFL, I would start surveying fans right now if they were willing to pay extra to watch on TV. That's the only way to make it work. And quite frankly I'd pay double the current cost of NFL Ticket at this point lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, TeddEY said: Also, what do we do with all the people exposed by the person who tested positive? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 The 1st thing that came to mind when I read this was an old expression we used back home : " 50% of Doctors finished in the bottom half of their class" Just pure math. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 47 minutes ago, JetFan20 said: I think it’s a very real possibility the NFL season will be cancelled. Restaurants and Bars need to open soon. It’s a trillion dollar industry that cannot survive an 18 month shutdown. Realistically I think we are all back to work by May under restrictions: Suspend all non-essential air travel Reduced seating/capacity in bars and restaurants Draft Beer and Drinks to be served in disposable plastic cups Food served on disposable plates/utensils All retail outlets institute rules/guidelines similar to what supermarkets are doing No large gatherings (sports, concerts, 10Ks until further notice) Gyms continue to close (workout outside) Beaches close Barber Shops/HairSalons can open up Hotels/Motels can open up Realistically the greatest public health risks are the the sports and entertainment/airline industry. Both can survive an 18 month shutdown. Not a chance in the Tri-state area . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Thai Jet said: The 1st thing that came to mind when I read this was an old expression we used back home : " 50% of Doctors finished in the bottom half of their class" Just pure math. Yup and this one wrote obamacare. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I think people would be very into football coming back until they see that inevitably a percentage of players are coming down with COVID and then the sport has to close up again anyway after two weeks. It’d be a cluster****. Also on this note, keep this in mind: Forget the crowds completely. Just think about a game itself on the field. Think of the amount of supplies that go into making sure one professional football game happens. All the little things. Now think about the idea that all it takes is one little slip from just one person in the supply chain of all those supplies for all those single games. How in the hell do you make that work? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Savage69 said: Zeke Emanuel brother of Rahm Emanuel former mayor of Chicago also said the country should be shut down for 12 to 18 months. He's always been a nut case.. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/04/07/ezekiel_emanuel_us_must_stay_locked_down_for_12-18_months_until_theres_a_vaccine.html Anything to take down Trump and to usher in progressive large government programs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 42 minutes ago, varjet said: We are not going to keep the entire country on lockdown to save the lives of the old and unhealthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20andOut Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 20 minutes ago, Lil O said: Unfortunately some of the Entertainment industry is already folding. I am a professional actor and all of my future gigs have been cancelled. Both in Theatre and TV. Of course the industry as a whole will survive but there are a lot of projects that were slated to start the summer that have been canceled and will never be done. It’s going to affect a lot of writers more than anything, especially playwrights. Pretty much any new play that was scheduled has been canceled instead of being postponed. Whereas some TV and movie gigs are just being postponed until the fall. Also the entire commercial department of my agency has been let go. Even though the industry itself will survive there are a lot of people who are going to be out of work for a very long time. Covid is speeding up the already approaching death of movie theaters. AMC and Regal about to go bankrupt. Many Broadway theaters, most of which were were already in bad financial shape, will be done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, kevinc855 said: We need to start to push back before this becomes a thing. See article below a) we should test outside the stadium much like we check for alcohol coming in. b) need therapeutics in summer to help treat folks c)football without fans would never be the same https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.phillymag.com/news/2020/04/09/coronavirus-nfl-season-eagles-zeke-emanuel/%3famp=1 Nice thread. Theres no push to cancel the NFL season underway anywhere other than in your thread title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 36 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: If you don’t think they have you are also living under a rock The NFL has in no way, shape or form publicly suggested there would be any change to the NFL season at this point. Your thread title sucks a fat moose cock. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted April 11, 2020 Author Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: Nice thread. Theres no push to cancel the NFL season underway anywhere other than in your thread title Actually when public health officials are all over tv taking about no large gatherings for the year they essentially are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Also on this note, keep this in mind: Forget the crowds completely. Just think about a game itself on the field. Think of the amount of supplies that go into making sure one professional football game happens. All the little things. Now think about the idea that all it takes is one little slip from just one person in the supply chain of all those supplies for all those single games. How in the hell do you make that work? It’s going to take a massive marketing push to make any of this work, because the logistics are impossible to sort. Fortunately, the NFL has a lot of practice selling acceptable risk with the whole concussion scandal that nobody ended up caring about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, BROOKLYN JET said: Yup and this one wrote obamacare. 8 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: Anything to take down Trump and to usher in progressive large government programs. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 50 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I think people would be very into football coming back until they see that inevitably a percentage of players are coming down with COVID and then the sport has to close up again anyway after two weeks. It’d be a cluster****. With your luck, Jamal Adams would have immunity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 PSL holders will be able to attend all games, they’ll spread us out 6 feet apart. The rest of you, nope. #PSLINVESTMENTGOLD SAR I 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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