Philc1 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Rangers9 said: What you’re saying could be true. Because a pandemic doesn’t end just because you want it to or you’re tired of it. There are smarter solutions more testing and tracing. This is a century when there’s going to be major catastrophes we’ve already experienced some. Like this one if you’re unprepared you spend more of your gnp and many more deaths. But it seems like we still haven’t learned that lesson. There’s no evidence of foresight. Not a good legacy for our kids your 401k if that’s all you care about might not go so far. Warren Buffet just sold off $30 million worth of stock. The market is going to rebound in the summer as things open back up temporarily but come next October when the cold weather returns infections will skyrocket again and there’s no public health infrastructure in America so expect the Dow Jones to to decrease by 40-50% next Fall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 25 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The campaign ads write themselves sometimes It was either this guy Vos or Fitzgerald who last year said after his party lost the statewide governor’s election they would have won if not for Milwaukee and Madison. So they found a way to cut out much of Milwaukee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Government is throwing away trillions but you somehow think they won't foot the bill for a few hundred million on vaccines that appear to work in initial testing? "Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Health, has announced that a vaccine developed by NIH scientists could go into production before clinical trials finish. It it’s effective, they’ll have a head-start on production; if it fails, they’ll have to scrap any vaccines they’ve produced." Plus you won't even need vaccines for every single American. Those that already have antibodies and young children likely won't need one right away. Give to the elderly and at risk groups first and you're pretty much eliminating the risk of running out of hospital beds/ventilators. America has no infrastructure in place to quickly invent and mass produce vaccines in response to a sudden outbreak of a previously unknown virus. Everything is done in the private sector with the NIH funding it with taxpayer money for diseases that have had vaccines already in place for decades what we should have were 100% govt owned and operated labs, testing facilities, factories and distribution centers set up prior to this pandemic. They have it in other countries but not here if you think this is going away in 6 months you are delusional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Warren Buffet just sold off $30 million worth of stock. The market is going to rebound in the summer as things open back up but come next October when the cold weather returns infections will skyrocket again and there’s no public health infrastructure in America so expect the Dow Jones to to decrease by 40-50% next Fall Warren buffet is sitting on like 120B cash last I read. 30M to him is nothing. This collapse was coming pre corona and there are huge structural problems in the economy, which is why hes waiting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, 32EBoozer said: I’m sorry.... I’ll go all in on Green New Deal, reparations, carbon tax and loan forgiveness. What was I thinking. You lead the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 someone please set this thread on fire? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: It was either this guy Vos or Fitzgerald who last year said after his party lost the statewide governor’s election they would have won if not for Milwaukee and Madison. So they found a way to cut out much of Milwaukee. The Grand Old Party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Philc1 said: America has no infrastructure in place to quickly invent and mass produce vaccines in response to a sudden outbreak of a previously unknown virus. Everything is done in the private sector with the NIH funding it with taxpayer money for diseases that have had vaccines already in place for decades what we should have were 100% govt owned and operated labs, testing facilities, factories and distribution centers set up prior to this pandemic. They have it in other countries but not here if you think this is going away in 6 months you are delusional Government can’t do anything right and you want them to lead on vaccines and testing? Private industry way more efficient and cost effective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, 32EBoozer said: Government can’t do anything right and you want them to lead on vaccines and testing? Private industry way more efficient and cost effective Private Sector is doing great right now we have 25% of the world’s coronavirus cases with 5% of the population Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Private industry has accelerated testing and vaccines. Govt. hasn’t done $h!+ other than paralyze small business to the point of 6 million jobs-lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted April 11, 2020 Author Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Matt39 said: There probably wont be an election if its still this bad in September. So there's also that to keep in mind. no via the constitution it CANT be cancelled 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Private Sector is doing great right now we have 25% of the world’s coronavirus cases with 5% of the population For your numbers to be correct, you'd have to believe the numbers coming out of China, Iran, Russia. Etc, Etc, I don't. Im sure you don't either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: Private industry has accelerated testing and vaccines. Govt. hasn’t done $h!+ other than paralyze small business to the point of 6 million jobs-lost. What choice did they have?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, genot said: What choice did they have?? Leave it to the individual states to decide for their own. Feds should be in supporting role with Fed, Treasury, FAA and military. Distribution of supplies. Even Cuomo & Newsome are raving about Trump support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, 32EBoozer said: Leave it to the individual states to decide for their own. Feds should be in supporting role with Fed, Treasury, FAA and military. Distribution of supplies. Even Cuomo & Newsome are raving about Trump support. That's what Trump did. Months ago, liberals we're complaining about Trump being an authoritarian leader. Now the complaint is, he's letting the individual States take the lead, with the feds in a supporting role. No future President will have to do, what Trump was forced to do, because of the neglect of previous administrations. Interesting piece of history,{recent], written in this article. Hardly a right wing publicationhttps://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/los-angeles-times-and-bloomberg-news-federal-stockpile-of-n95-masks-was-depleted-under-obama-and-never-restocked 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Health services/research etc is a federal responsibility. Esp when it comes to researching pandemics and virology. Why do you think there is an HHS, NIH, CDC, etc. To say 50 individual states are supposed to be the leader on it is nonsense. How does a state like Wyoming etc get data/science on a pandemic . It’s called passing the buck the blame game (the states, the WHO, previous administration, everyone except them after over 3 years not 3 months in office) and massive incompetency. And a whole lot of lying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtMart Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 6 hours ago, kevinc855 said: We need to start to push back before this becomes a thing. See article below a) we should test outside the stadium much like we check for alcohol coming in. 80k+ tests? Really? That’s over a million test every weekend just for NFL. Lets assume that’s feasible. Then what? Infected folks will be there too and it will spread. Doesn’t matter if they’re inside the stadium or outside the stadium standing shoulder to shoulder waiting to get tested. 6 hours ago, kevinc855 said: b) need therapeutics in summer to help treat folks Yes because a cure exists, right? 6 hours ago, kevinc855 said: c)football without fans would never be the same Hence a lockout b 6 hours ago, kevinc855 said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.phillymag.com/news/2020/04/09/coronavirus-nfl-season-eagles-zeke-emanuel/%3famp=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Rangers9 said: Health services/research etc is a federal responsibility. Esp when it comes to researching pandemics and virology. Why do you think there is an HHS, CDC, etc. To say 50 individual states are supposed to be the leader on it is nonsense. It’s called passing the buck the blame game (the states, the WHO, previous administration, everyone except them after over 3 years not 3 months in office)and massive incompetency. The virus originated in China. By the time the chinese finally came clean about how the virus spread, this Country, and every other Country already had thousands of asymptomatic carriers spreading the virus. We asked the Chinese if we could have a team of health officials in China to study the strain, to see how it spreads and mutates. We were denied. They kicked international journalists out of the country, to hide what took too long for us to learn. That's fact. Blame them. Just look at the numbers their reporting about the amount of people in their country infected, and you'll realize the gross deception they're engaged in. This is one reason for state government. I think States taking the lead on this, is the only way this could be managed. There closer to the problem, they can make those decisions that affect they're State. That's why we have Governors and Mayor's. Etc, Etc. You want them too pass the buck to Washington. I'm sure Gov Cuomo has spoken to the NIH, and CDC, a hundred times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rldev Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, genot said: That's what Trump did. Months ago, liberals we're complaining about Trump being an authoritarian leader. Now the complaint is, he's letting the individual States take the lead, with the feds in a supporting role. No future President will have to do, what Trump was forced to do, because of the neglect of previous administrations. Interesting piece of history,{recent], written in this article. Hardly a right wing publicationhttps://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/los-angeles-times-and-bloomberg-news-federal-stockpile-of-n95-masks-was-depleted-under-obama-and-never-restocked So what have we been doing the last 3+ years besides blaming everybody else when things go wrong? Is three years not enough time to replenish the national stockpile of n95 masks? It's some kind of voodoo where everything that is good is because of one person and everything that is bad is the fault of everyone else. What happened to accountability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 5 hours ago, ASH1962 said: You want the gyms closed but the barber shops can be open, where a person actually breathes on top of you? K He needs work on his doo ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 5 hours ago, genot said: if everybody follows the guidelines, it will be a non-story by the end of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 7 hours ago, sec101row23 said: Interesting. I would use a 4 year average draft position (pre trades). Nice, so we still pick top 5! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 As a season ticket holder for over 10 years, I'm having a hard time believing I'm going to be comfortable going to a game in September based upon the current trajectory we are on. I pray to god it changes, but I'm not risking my life to go to a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, rldev said: So what have we been doing the last 3+ years besides blaming everybody else when things go wrong? Is three years not enough time to replenish the national stockpile of n95 masks? It's some kind of voodoo where everything that is good is because of one person and everything that is bad is the fault of everyone else. What happened to accountability? Nothing has gone wrong. Things are going very well. This is a pandemic. The worst we've seen since the Spanish flu. Millions died from that virus. Nobody is a miracle worker. It's a horrible thing that so many have gotten sick and died from this virus. If you look at what the predictions we're and look at the numbers as of today, we will not come close,[thank god], to what many predicted would happen. This is what happens in a pandemic. A lot of people get sick, and some die. I think the Federal and state governments have done a tremendous job. If everybody follows the CDC, guidelines, we'll come out of this okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 7 hours ago, kevinc855 said: We need to start to push back before this becomes a thing. See article below a) we should test outside the stadium much like we check for alcohol coming in. b) need therapeutics in summer to help treat folks c)football without fans would never be the same https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.phillymag.com/news/2020/04/09/coronavirus-nfl-season-eagles-zeke-emanuel/%3famp=1 no words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 3 hours ago, kevinc855 said: ehh I’m going to mentally prepare myself there isn’t a season. Honestly there prob won’t be. Man 2020 really stunk it up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted April 11, 2020 Author Share Posted April 11, 2020 37 minutes ago, CurtMart said: 80k+ tests? Really? That’s over a million test every weekend just for NFL. Lets assume that’s feasible. Then what? Infected folks will be there too and it will spread. Doesn’t matter if they’re inside the stadium or outside the stadium standing shoulder to shoulder waiting to get tested. Yes because a cure exists, right? Hence a lockout b I admit it’s a hard thing to achieve but it’s been floated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, maury77 said: As a season ticket holder for over 10 years, I'm having a hard time believing I'm going to be comfortable going to a game in September based upon the current trajectory we are on. I pray to god it changes, but I'm not risking my life to go to a game. Wear a mask, and protective gloves, and you'll be fine. If you do that the chances of you getting the virus are the same as you getting hit by a bolt of lightning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 the amount of absolutely retarded muthafukkers on JetNationj is astounding.... miracle tomorrow, Jared walks on water and makes it all go away... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, genot said: Wear a mask, and protective gloves, and you'll be fine. If you do that the chances of you getting the virus are the same as you getting hit by a bolt of lightning. tell that to the dead nurses you ckunt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 First season in my lifetime in confident the Jets will not disappoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 51 minutes ago, genot said: Hardly a right wing lol The bubble is #thick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Losmeister said: tell that to the dead nurses you ckunt You care, and i don't. The problem is when you get emotional about something, your might not be thinking straight. Nurses, [bless their souls], are working hours everyday in close quarters with dozens of infected people. Much different 4 months down the road going to a football game for three hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, genot said: You care, and i don't. The problem is when you get emotional about something, your might not be thinking straight. Nurses, [bless their souls], are working hours everyday in close quarters with dozens of infected people. Much different 4 months down the road going to a football game for three hours emotional. you thinking i am shouting. i am not. just announing that i think your fecklessness qualifies you as a right khunt. simply not caring that health care workers die. classy. \ also falsely declaring that if you wear a mask and gloves you'll be ok, is a public health risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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