Jetsfan80 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, jvill 51 said: Gotta catch up on the last couple pages but I think your post is the weird one. He could have summed it up as town on town violence, but if that’s not his read on it why would he do that? It’s possible he’s lying about his read to throw shade on them, but the way you worded it it’s like your advocating for him to lie about it to avoid throwing shade. My argument is he's smart enough to know that when 2 players both "look worse" in an exchange, it pretty much never makes sense for both to be scum and most likely its town on town. He was being purposely deceitful there, was my take. And the throw in that both were scum in another game and coasted and now are the leading trains D1....what does that matter? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 48 minutes ago, GATA said: I like this vote too I haven’t seen JiF do his Batman casing instead he’s coasting away unvote vote jif lmfao - this has become the easiest and weakest horsesh*t vote in all of mafia, the JiF isnt doing enough (based on whatever random criteria I'm using) while he does the same thing he does every game vote. It takes real effort to drop this vote/rationale combo. I'd also like to point out the OMGUS nature of this post. Can we kill it please already? My god. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckerfan Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Official Vote Count: Gata (7) - Lizzie, jvill, Stark, Leelou, AVM, Nolder, JIF Nolder (4) - Nyn, 32EBoozer, SMC, Barry Drums (2) - JC, 80 JC (1) - Drums 80 (1) - Verbal JIF (2) - Hess, Gata DPR (1) - Beaver With 21 reapers alive, it takes 12 to lynch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 51 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Weird post by AJ here. You could have just summed all of that up by suggesting it was probably just town-on-town violence, as usually is the case when 2 people tunnel on each other. Instead you throw shade on both and try to contrast the situation with a previous game? I read it the exact same way. I feel like he really didnt even read that particular game. lol I was scum with them, carried them to victory. duh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvill 51 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: My argument is he's smart enough to know that when 2 players both "look worse" in an exchange, it pretty much never makes sense for both to be scum and most likely its town on town. He was being purposely deceitful there, was my take. And the throw in that both were scum in another game and coasted and now are the leading trains D1....what does that matter? Ok, the way you worded it made it sound like you wanted him to be deceitful to avoid throwing shade on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATA Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, JiF said: lmfao - this has become the easiest and weakest horsesh*t vote in all of mafia, the JiF isnt doing enough (based on whatever random criteria I'm using) while he does the same thing he does every game vote. It takes real effort to drop this vote/rationale combo. I'd also like to point out the OMGUS nature of this post. Can we kill it please already? My god. What is the OMGUS? You aren't casing this is not OMGUS this is fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SMC Posted April 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2020 4 hours ago, DPR said: @Nolder In 10 words or less, please describe why *anyone* would ever care enough to write *that* much on D1? How could that possibly help the town? 10 words or less mind you Nolder's post had 1,082 words. On D1 I had to do a word count to see if it was real. That has to be a record. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATA Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 minute ago, JiF said: I read it the exact same way. I feel like he really didnt even read that particular game. lol I was scum with them, carried them to victory. duh You carried no one to victory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, JiF said: lmfao - this has become the easiest and weakest horsesh*t vote in all of mafia, the JiF isnt doing enough (based on whatever random criteria I'm using) while he does the same thing he does every game vote. It takes real effort to drop this vote/rationale combo. I'd also like to point out the OMGUS nature of this post. Can we kill it please already? My god. BUT ARE YOU YOUR FAVORITE ROLE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 hours ago, JiF said: Great idea but what do we do in the case of Verb? Build a search party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 49 minutes ago, Verbal said: I disagree. Saying town on town violence is the easy way out, he looks like he's actually trying to problem solve here. Why are you still alive?? ewww weird defense. I like 80 today. While I didnt love the fluidity of his voting on the early Gata train was concerning but we were seeing the game similarly. I believe his switch was jokey and I like his play today. Yours is gross. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, GATA said: What is the OMGUS? You aren't casing this is not OMGUS this is fact I havent cased you? wtf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Beaver said: hmm...I backed off the Nolder vs. Gata thing. It feels like a bunch of sh*te. I am new and haven't played with DPR before, but he hasn't provided any reads on anyone. Stark has only provided one look and that was on Barry and myself. Starks reasoning is sound, but he usually provides better insight. I'll go with DPR for now. Vote DPR Beaver lookin solid so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gone Posted April 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Verbal said: I see a lot of people posting and not saying anything. DPR and JC come to mind. Jokes, comments, no digging. I'm in that group as well (for now). Like I said, I want to see if this is a conversion game before I try to dig in - making reads and having them all go to sh*t with a conversion is not something I'm interested in doing right now. Conversion games are super fun for mods, the people who do the converting, and sometimes the folks that are actually converted, but it's hard for literally everybody else. Hmmm... I might have an idea here. I missed you. Why do people keep talking about this being a cult game? I haven't seen anything that hinted such a thing and atp if feels like fear mongering to keep bringing it up as if no read can be trusted which will actively get in the way of building a town core. So again, why is this part of your narrative on d1? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: 2 people looking worse in an exchange almost never results in both being scum. Pick one as looking worse than the other or move on, because its probably town on town. And I don't buy the D1 "gambit" stuff. That pretty much never happens either. I'm still alive because people have gotten tired of lynching me D1. About time. Games are more fun with me in them. I'm ashamed of myself for agreeing with you, but I do. No way anyone reads the gata/nolder sh*tshow and think it's an act. One could be scum but I don't see a universe where they both are. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 36 minutes ago, DPR said: A few. I already posted that the Nolder/Gata thing felt contrived to me. The WOT's from JC & Nolder seem weird. I think Verb is summing it up best with: I figure this is the back of everyone's mind, yeah? Which is why the out-of-the-norm activity I talked about above stands out. Makes me think that there could be PR's that determine recruits, but that's pure spec at this point and no reason to clutter the thread with it at this point. So you think it's ok for you and verb to sit back and not dig in cause you think this might be a conversion game? Yeah I don't think so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, GATA said: You carried no one to victory If he did I hope he washed his hands first... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Nynaeve said: Why do people keep talking about this being a cult game? I haven't seen anything that hinted such a thing and atp if feels like fear mongering to keep bringing it up as if no read can be trusted which will actively get in the way of building a town core. So again, why is this part of your narrative on d1? 1. I asked Pac a direct question on this multiple times in the signup thread and he never answered. So, no, he never confirmed it. 2. However, Pac LOVES conversion games, and the theme supports it. 3. If you read some of his "flavor" scenes, he hints at it. I'll find them, one sec. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, JiF said: ewww weird defense. I like 80 today. While I didnt love the fluidity of his voting on the early Gata train was concerning but we were seeing the game similarly. I believe his switch was jokey and I like his play today. Yours is gross. Oh how the mighty have fallen... *cringe* I... agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvill 51 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 My take: @Nolder if you’re town, you’re taking GATA’s initial vote and reasoning WAY too literally. I understand the logical fallacy you’re trying to point out, but it could still be a joke vote with some semi-serious reasoning behind it, and at this point continuing to harp on it is more distracting than anything. Moving on, @Drums I think Barry raised this earlier but I’m curious as well, what was the reason you connected JC with GATA and Nolder? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Nynaeve said: Why do people keep talking about this being a cult game? I haven't seen anything that hinted such a thing and atp if feels like fear mongering to keep bringing it up as if no read can be trusted which will actively get in the way of building a town core. So again, why is this part of your narrative on d1? 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: 1. I asked Pac a direct question on this multiple times in the signup thread and he never answered. So, no, he never confirmed it. 2. However, Pac LOVES conversion games, and the theme supports it. 3. If you read some of his "flavor" scenes, he hints at it. I'll find them, one sec. OK it was only one. But this is a clear signal that this is a conversion game: 13 hours ago, Pac said: CLICK ME "Goddammit Blade, why do you have to listen to that crap while training"?! Blades sword whipped through the air with precision and purpose. "Whistler, no offense but not everyone is a Credence Clearwater fan". "Ohhh I get it... I'm old... and white"! A sly grin crept across the Daywalkers face. "I have to concentrate. The person I have my eyes on is a skilled fighter. They won't go down easily". "Ohh you want that one, huh"? "Yeah... that one". "When"? ".... soon". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: 1. I asked Pac a direct question on this multiple times in the signup thread and he never answered. So, no, he never confirmed it. 2. However, Pac LOVES conversion games, and the theme supports it. 3. If you read some of his "flavor" scenes, he hints at it. I'll find them, one sec. Yeah I dont read flavor. And as far as I go, no one is getting a free pass at slanking by floating the cult fear. We still need to scum hunt if we want to win this game, cult or no cult. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 23 minutes ago, jvill 51 said: Ok, the way you worded it made it sound like you wanted him to be deceitful to avoid throwing shade on them. Yeah, I worded my thoughts poorly. I do that a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: Yeah, I worded my thoughts poorly. I do that a lot. Vouch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Just now, Nynaeve said: Yeah I dont read flavor. And as far as I go, no one is getting a free pass at slanking by floating the cult fear. We still need to scum hunt if we want to win this game, cult or no cult. Period. That's fair. Just trying to mentally prepare for an awful game. Cult games suck, 100 % of the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, jvill 51 said: My take: @Nolder if you’re town, you’re taking GATA’s initial vote and reasoning WAY too literally. I understand the logical fallacy you’re trying to point out, but it could still be a joke vote with some semi-serious reasoning behind it, and at this point continuing to harp on it is more distracting than anything. Moving on, @Drums I think Barry raised this earlier but I’m curious as well, what was the reason you connected JC with GATA and Nolder? Already said why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 29 minutes ago, JiF said: lmfao - this has become the easiest and weakest horsesh*t vote in all of mafia, the JiF isnt doing enough (based on whatever random criteria I'm using) while he does the same thing he does every game vote. It takes real effort to drop this vote/rationale combo. I'd also like to point out the OMGUS nature of this post. Can we kill it please already? My god. They can’t appreciate your slow hand as much as I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: OK it was only one. But this is a clear signal that this is a conversion game: So up until that post no one spoke of conversion? Cause I've seen it pop up several times and I dont think it was following that necessarily. My point is this is the perfect tool in scum's hands to both not put in work and to discourage us from scumhunting by planting that seed. We play like we always do and if we get a real indication about there being a cult we'll deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: OK it was only one. But this is a clear signal that this is a conversion game: I don't get what is the "clear signal" in that. Honestly I am with Nyn, tired of hearing people complain about a conversion game and want to see the inactives get involved. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Also can you explain what about that makes you think cult? Cause they could just be talking about who they want dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvill 51 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, Drums said: Already said why Ok I’ll find it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Last time I posted I had my top three as JC, Nolder and Gata. Right now I am leaning towards that ridiculous Ape-like domination Gata Nolder being town on town. I could be wrong but that will present itself later if need be. But DPR made a good point-- I was feeling a little burnt out after reading that. JC is my vote right now and I still agree with that as of right now. The two games he was town, I respected his play quite a lot. This game? He voted me because of something Nolder said and then voted Nolder because of something I said. That could be him baiting but other than that he posted about Screech. Crusher is aloof and hasn't voted, basically just like he did last game when he was scum. You can't post random stuff but not actually play the game-- that is scummy to me. (Edit: Sorry Crusher baby, thought you were playing but you aren't.) And I think the lack of effort because "it's a conversion game, I know it" or "I am waiting to see if it is a conversion game" is understandable but let's go people! Get in the game! If it ends up being a conversion game, fine do whatever you want, but you're wasting valuable time here. Pac is neither confirming nor denying anything and I'm sure there will be some other random sh*t here too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Nynaeve said: So up until that post no one spoke of conversion? Cause I've seen it pop up several times and I dont think it was following that necessarily. My point is this is the perfect tool in scum's hands to both not put in work and to discourage us from scumhunting by planting that seed. We play like we always do and if we get a real indication about there being a cult we'll deal. 80 literally voted himself and made the comment about the conversion game in his first post which is probably page 1. He also tried fanning the flames of a Nolder vs me stupid debate. I don't trust his ass right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Not feeling great about the absence of Stark. He has been quietly killing it the past few games as town. Beaver mentioned storms so I am not sure if that affected his situation or not. If not, his quietness is on my radar as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Drums said: Last time I posted I had my top three as JC, Nolder and Gata. Right now I am leaning towards that ridiculous Ape-like domination Gata Nolder being town on town. I could be wrong but that will present itself later if need be. But DPR made a good point-- I was feeling a little burnt out after reading that. JC is my vote right now and I still agree with that as of right now. The two games he was town, I respected his play quite a lot. This game? He voted me because of something Nolder said and then voted Nolder because of something I said. That could be him baiting but other than that he posted about Screech. Crusher is aloof and hasn't voted, basically just like he did last game when he was scum. You can't post random stuff but not actually play the game-- that is scummy to me. And I think the lack of effort because "it's a conversion game, I know it" or "I am waiting to see if it is a conversion game" is understandable but let's go people! Get in the game! If it ends up being a conversion game, fine do whatever you want, but you're wasting valuable time here. Pac is neither confirming nor denying anything and I'm sure there will be some other random sh*t here too. I like this post but just want to point out that Crusher is not playing. I don't know why 80 is bitching so much when he could have just not signed up knowing Pac loves conversion games. I'm kinda hoping it is a conversion game just because I've never done one. We should kill him for bitching too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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