Draft Rumors

[Jets723]

9 minutes ago, viffer said:

I doubt all 4 tackles are in consideration by JD at 11. I'm guessing there are 2, maybe 3. Remember that he is big on scheme fit, and, regardless of what the "experts" on this board say, JD hired Fant to be the starting LT.

I also think he won't trade back, unless his picks for tackle AND receiver are all gone at 11, which is highly unlikely. Remember two things about JD; first, he wants impact players, and you are more likely to get them in the early first round; and second, he insisted on a 6 year contract for a reason. He isn't going to try to put together a super bowl team this year; he knows that's not going to happen. So better to get some top talent this year in a couple of key areas than to try to fill every hole. If a top tackle or top receiver (on HIS board, that is) is available at 11, I think he takes the pick and doesn't trade back.

I agree.  That’s what I meant.  It’s impossible for him to fill every hole in one offseason 

[sec101row23]

The draft is still 10 days away.  From now until Thursday night we will “hear” that almost everyone with a first or second round grade could sneak into the top 10.   It’s the cover your a$$ time for these draftniks, so they can point to that one tweet out of the thousands they make and say “see I told you so”.  

[T0mShane]

12 minutes ago, bitonti said:

perhaps. if the right player falls (thomas or becton, maybe wirfs). 

but if Joe Douglas is such an OL savant, he could use the 11 pick on "a sure thing" at WR and find these 5 over the course of the next few rounds. 

Cimini has been predicting Henry Ruggs since December don't let this latest tweet appeal to what we all hope happens

that's not how the jets drafts usually go 

at least this year we don't need to see the fans boo the pick in person 

 

Ehhh, he’s gonna be conservative and draft the best OL guy at 11. None of these receivers are so good that he’s gonna get itchy when the pick comes up. 

[section314]

2 minutes ago, sec101row23 said:

The draft is still 10 days away.  From now until Thursday night we will “hear” that almost everyone with a first or second round grade could sneak into the top 10.   It’s the cover your a$$ time for these draftniks, so they can point to that one tweet out of the thousands they make and say “see I told you so”.  

Absolutely.......throw enough Sh*t against the wall and hope some of it sticks.

[82nd Airborne]

2 hours ago, Jetster said:

I can speculate too, 😲, the Jets MAY find a trading partner to move back in the draft, most likely by a team picking after them at #11. 

Trade # 11 to Bucs for Brady as a backup. 

[derp]

5 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Ehhh, he’s gonna be conservative and draft the best OL guy at 11. None of these receivers are so good that he’s gonna get itchy when the pick comes up. 

I tend to agree with Bit. This draft lines up neatly with what fans want and no team drafts the way fans want. Every year we do the “offensive tackle at eleven, wide receiver at 48, edge rusher at 68, center at 79” nonsense and it never happens.

Ruggs in the first over one or two of the tackles and one or two of Lamb and Jeudy is kind of perfect. Eschews what 95% of fans want while fitting a need and lining up with what it seems Douglas wants to build offensively but everyone is ignoring - which is an offense with enough speed all over the field to spread the field and create big plays. “Speed creates pressure, pressure bursts pipes.” But we’ve got Antonio Gandy-Golden, a fine prospect in his own right but a guy who ran 4.6, in like half this site’s mocks.

Douglas seems like a guy who has a vision for the kind of team he wants to put together. I think he wants the offense to be more athletic. You saw it with FA offensive line. Perriman fits that. There are maybe a few pass catchers who could be there at 48 and fit that? Ruggs for sure fits.

Fans are going to be frustrated after this draft because there’s a really clear, clean plan and I doubt it gets executed that way. I think Laviska Shenault is a fit and nobody wants him. Ditto Austin Jackson. Everybody talks about Jones and Cleveland. Jackson’s very similar. Jets fans don’t like him. Doubt Douglas agrees. Just like I doubt he drafts Wills for reasons Bit outlined nicely. 

Bump the don’t draft lists up against the traits the coach and GM seem to be looking for, see who’s in both groups, bet those are the guys.

[bitonti]

17 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Ehhh, he’s gonna be conservative and draft the best OL guy at 11. None of these receivers are so good that he’s gonna get itchy when the pick comes up. 

I think it's legit 50/50 at this point, partly because there might not be an OL at 11 (Tua is broken and a lefty, Herbert is soft), and partly the 1 OL that's left is not what either Gase or JD wants. 

Someone said it earlier (wish I could attribute this classic JN wisdom) "You guys fight over the 4th hottest blonde at the party, I'll find the hottest brunette." 

A josh jones trade down wouldn't surprise me either. 

 

[bitonti]

3 minutes ago, derp said:

Fans are going to be frustrated after this draft because there’s a really clear, clean plan and I doubt it gets executed that way. I think Laviska Shenault is a fit and nobody wants him. Ditto Austin Jackson. Everybody talks about Jones and Cleveland. Jackson’s very similar. Jets fans don’t like him. Doubt Douglas agrees. Just like I doubt he drafts Wills for reasons Bit outlined nicely. 

Bump the don’t draft lists up against the traits the coach and GM seem to be looking for, see who’s in both groups, bet those are the guys.

Antonio Gibson Memphis feels like a player this offense can use as a RB2 to replace Powell/Monty and a WR flex on occasion 

the thing about predicting 8 tackles in the first 48 picks is that not all these teams need tackle as direly as the Jets and the ones that do will be filling the need early 

 

[Augustiniak]

4 minutes ago, bitonti said:

I think it's legit 50/50 at this point, partly because there might not be an OL at 11 (Tua is broken and a lefty, Herbert is soft), and partly the 1 OL that's left is not what either Gase or JD wants. 

Someone said it earlier (wish I could attribute this classic JN wisdom) "You guys fight over the 4th hottest blonde at the party, I'll find the hottest brunette." 

A josh jones trade down wouldn't surprise me either. 

 

I completely agree here.  I also believe that douglas will have a non-4 OT rated comparably to one of these 4 so trading back to 15 would be a no brainer.  Also think we’d trade up in round 2 and perhaps back into round 2 from the Leo pick to get wrs if they got an extra 3rd rounder.

[slats]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

Mangini did that. Post-Mangini, Tannenbaum was drafting Ducasse and giving big money to the likes of Austin Howard and Wayne Hunter.

 

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

It’s really too bad Mangini is blackballed. He’d be a good front office hire for some team.

I think it’s neat the way you make things up and then present them as fact. 

[32EBoozer]

2 minutes ago, bitonti said:

I think it's legit 50/50 at this point, partly because there might not be an OL at 11 (Tua is broken and a lefty, Herbert is soft), and partly the 1 OL that's left is not what either Gase or JD wants. 

Someone said it earlier (wish I could attribute this classic JN wisdom) "You guys fight over the 4th hottest blonde at the party, I'll find the hottest brunette." 

A josh jones trade down wouldn't surprise me either. 

 

Spot on. We are looking for a game changer anywhere on offense. WR, OL even TE. Someone who can help the growth of Sam into top 10 QB next year. 
 

Mac left our team bereft of talent. This is a 2-3 yr. process. Let’s get talent on offense and build from there. We really need to bring Peters and Griffin on board to give us flexibility in the draft. If we stay put and top 4 OL off the board at #11 we may have to go WR & risk coming out of this draft with OL projects 2 years away. 
Having Peters and Griffin signed at least helps protect Sam and gives Williams a shiny toy on Edge to play with. 

[TNJet]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

Mangini did that. Post-Mangini, Tannenbaum was drafting Ducasse and giving big money to the likes of Austin Howard and Wayne Hunter.

Lets not forget letting studs like Cotchery, Edwards and Brad Smith walk for has beens like Mason, Holmes, Burress.

[redlichtie]

13 minutes ago, bitonti said:

Antonio Gibson Memphis feels like a player this offense can use as a RB2 to replace Powell/Monty and a WR flex on occasion 

the thing about predicting 8 tackles in the first 48 picks is that not all these teams need tackle as direly as the Jets and the ones that do will be filling the need early 

 

Gibson is a very intriguing player for sure....I can totally see him as a fit with what we know of how both Gase & Douglas operate

[Ohhthepain]

Per Pauline- 

Center Matt Hennessy drawing interest around the league

The Jets, who own the Giants’ selection in the third round, also have a lot of interest in Hennessy. I am told if they select Hennessey, it would be to play center.  Newly signed free agent Connor McGovern would then slide over to guard, the position many thought he played his best football at while in Denver.

The Atlanta Falcons, Dallas Cowboys, and Pittsburgh Steelers all have significant interest in Hennessy.  Of that group, Pittsburgh projects him to guard.

[FidelioJet]

47 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

A Josh Jones or Ezra Cleveland at #11 would feel like a reach in my opinion.  There would be a collective groan amongst Jets fans if they take one of those guys at #11.  Trading back into the mid/late teens and getting one of them....that's a little more palatable.  But if the "top 4" OTs are gone and the Jets take a Jone or Cleveland then they'd likely be leaving a top WR on the board and would possibly be looking at the QB2 or QB3 and couldn't trade back.  It would be disappointing.

 

It would be disappointing but would still be the right move.  

Sure, trade down a few spots if you can - and still be able to grab one of them but otherwise you pretty have to take a T in the first round.

[redlichtie]

45 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

A Josh Jones or Ezra Cleveland at #11 would feel like a reach in my opinion.  There would be a collective groan amongst Jets fans if they take one of those guys at #11.  Trading back into the mid/late teens and getting one of them....that's a little more palatable.  But if the "top 4" OTs are gone and the Jets take a Jone or Cleveland then they'd likely be leaving a top WR on the board and would possibly be looking at the QB2 or QB3 and couldn't trade back.  It would be disappointing.

 

Really agree with you here but the whole value argument has always baffled me. Ultimately does the player turn out good or not. If either Jones or Cleveland turn into a 10 year starting LT with D’Brick level consistency and borderline all-pro status then does it matter whether he was picked at 11 or 18? Aside from the additional pick it always seems this argument is simply about instant gratification rather than whether the player was any good.

Back in the day I remember the Colts getting pelted for picking Edgerrin James & Dwight Freeney...both were considered slight reaches at the time but nobody remembers that now(apart from me)

anyway just my thoughts... I like both JJ and Ezra either way

[JetsFanShawn]

3 hours ago, SR24 said:

Being that we’re 10 days out and with the virus we’ll probably see increased trade activity/rumors before the actual draft. I figured we’d dump all the rumors in here rather than individual posts
 

 

i don't understand understand wtf you  you mean by that this virus 10 days more like for life were all ****ed

[Lil O]

3 hours ago, 32EBoozer said:

JD May be also thinking of moving up? If there’s a player at #9 you want, jump Cle and get him. Lower #3? Would have to be an OT. 

This ain’t happening

[FidelioJet]

2 minutes ago, redlichtie said:

Really agree with you here but the whole value argument has always baffled me. Ultimately does the player turn out good or not. If either Jones or Cleveland turn into a 10 year starting LT with D’Brick level consistency and borderline all-pro status then does it matter whether he was picked at 11 or 18? Aside from the additional pick it always seems this argument is simply about instant gratification rather than whether the player was any good.

Back in the day I remember the Colts getting pelted for picking Edgerrin James & Dwight Freeney...both were considered slight reaches at the time but nobody remembers that now(apart from me)

anyway just my thoughts... I like both JJ and Ezra either way

Yes, this "value" thing always drives me nuts.  The draft is a crap shoot, it's why I lean more toward drafting positions you need.  I'm not saying you take a sh--ty player because it's what you need - but don't be ridiculous with this BPA nonsense.

[T0mShane]

23 minutes ago, derp said:

I tend to agree with Bit. This draft lines up neatly with what fans want and no team drafts the way fans want. Every year we do the “offensive tackle at eleven, wide receiver at 48, edge rusher at 68, center at 79” nonsense and it never happens.

Ruggs in the first over one or two of the tackles and one or two of Lamb and Jeudy is kind of perfect. Eschews what 95% of fans want while fitting a need and lining up with what it seems Douglas wants to build offensively but everyone is ignoring - which is an offense with enough speed all over the field to spread the field and create big plays. “Speed creates pressure, pressure bursts pipes.” But we’ve got Antonio Gandy-Golden, a fine prospect in his own right but a guy who ran 4.6, in like half this site’s mocks.

Douglas seems like a guy who has a vision for the kind of team he wants to put together. I think he wants the offense to be more athletic. You saw it with FA offensive line. Perriman fits that. There are maybe a few pass catchers who could be there at 48 and fit that? Ruggs for sure fits.

Fans are going to be frustrated after this draft because there’s a really clear, clean plan and I doubt it gets executed that way. I think Laviska Shenault is a fit and nobody wants him. Ditto Austin Jackson. Everybody talks about Jones and Cleveland. Jackson’s very similar. Jets fans don’t like him. Doubt Douglas agrees. Just like I doubt he drafts Wills for reasons Bit outlined nicely. 

Bump the don’t draft lists up against the traits the coach and GM seem to be looking for, see who’s in both groups, bet those are the guys.

 

22 minutes ago, bitonti said:

I think it's legit 50/50 at this point, partly because there might not be an OL at 11 (Tua is broken and a lefty, Herbert is soft), and partly the 1 OL that's left is not what either Gase or JD wants. 

Someone said it earlier (wish I could attribute this classic JN wisdom) "You guys fight over the 4th hottest blonde at the party, I'll find the hottest brunette." 

A josh jones trade down wouldn't surprise me either. 

 

I’m just not sure on the logic here, friends. WR is obviously a need, as is OT, but Douglas is going to prioritize WR because...why? In Douglas’ time with the Ravens, they drafted three WRs in the first round and each of them (Travis Taylor, Mark Clayton, Breshad Perriman) were monolithic busts. I’m not sure how to make the case that he’d want to use his first pick as a GM on Ruggs, who looks like a project, or Jeudy or Lamb who had questionable athletic traits. I saw a guy in free agency who was hyper conservative, who added a bunch of solid interior OL and Fant, and left a gaping hold at OT. IMO, it screams drafting tackle. WR is almost a left-field type pick there.

[T0mShane]

22 minutes ago, slats said:

 

I think it’s neat the way you make things up and then present them as fact. 

I’ll anxiously await your Tannenbaum-praising rebuttal.

[nycdan]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

That’d be a great landing spot for him, but Mara won’t cross Kraft or Goodell. 

Honestly, HOU should just bring him in to replace O'Brien.  Heck, they might be better off with Tannenbaum or even Idzik.

[bitonti]

4 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

 

I’m just not sure on the logic here, friends. WR is obviously a need, as is OT, but Douglas is going to prioritize WR because...why? In Douglas’ time with the Ravens, they drafted three WRs in the first round and each of them (Travis Taylor, Mark Clayton, Breshad Perriman) were monolithic busts. I’m not sure how to make the case that he’d want to use his first pick as a GM on Ruggs, who looks like a project, or Jeudy or Lamb who had questionable athletic traits. I saw a guy in free agency who was hyper conservative, who added a bunch of solid interior OL and Fant, and left a gaping hold at OT. IMO, it screams drafting tackle. WR is almost a left-field type pick there.

These guys are all projects.

yes JD will take a tackle at 11 if it's a tackle he wants. But legit they all could be gone, then what? Josh Jones at 11?

We can't ignore the "Tua is broken" workout tape or Herbert being the world's biggest Puss-wah.  

if/when there's an early run at OT, it's a KC Tyreek Hill league and we are all living in it. 

 

[68JET11]

14 minutes ago, redlichtie said:

Really agree with you here but the whole value argument has always baffled me. Ultimately does the player turn out good or not. If either Jones or Cleveland turn into a 10 year starting LT with D’Brick level consistency and borderline all-pro status then does it matter whether he was picked at 11 or 18? Aside from the additional pick it always seems this argument is simply about instant gratification rather than whether the player was any good.

Back in the day I remember the Colts getting pelted for picking Edgerrin James & Dwight Freeney...both were considered slight reaches at the time but nobody remembers that now(apart from me)

anyway just my thoughts... I like both JJ and Ezra either way

You're right that it shouldn't matter, but they should be available later in RD1, and you can trade down and still get one with additional picks.

[T0mShane]

3 minutes ago, bitonti said:

These guys are all projects.

yes JD will take a tackle at 11 if it's a tackle he wants. But legit they all could be gone, then what? Josh Jones at 11?

We can't ignore the "Tua is broken" workout tape or Herbert being the world's biggest Puss-wah.  

if/when there's an early run at OT, it's a KC Tyreek Hill league and we are all living in it. 

 

I can’t imagine a pack of teams going for OTs and resisting the urge to draft skills guys. They never, ever do it en masse.

[Augustiniak]

48 minutes ago, derp said:

I tend to agree with Bit. This draft lines up neatly with what fans want and no team drafts the way fans want. Every year we do the “offensive tackle at eleven, wide receiver at 48, edge rusher at 68, center at 79” nonsense and it never happens.

Ruggs in the first over one or two of the tackles and one or two of Lamb and Jeudy is kind of perfect. Eschews what 95% of fans want while fitting a need and lining up with what it seems Douglas wants to build offensively but everyone is ignoring - which is an offense with enough speed all over the field to spread the field and create big plays. “Speed creates pressure, pressure bursts pipes.” But we’ve got Antonio Gandy-Golden, a fine prospect in his own right but a guy who ran 4.6, in like half this site’s mocks.

Douglas seems like a guy who has a vision for the kind of team he wants to put together. I think he wants the offense to be more athletic. You saw it with FA offensive line. Perriman fits that. There are maybe a few pass catchers who could be there at 48 and fit that? Ruggs for sure fits.

Fans are going to be frustrated after this draft because there’s a really clear, clean plan and I doubt it gets executed that way. I think Laviska Shenault is a fit and nobody wants him. Ditto Austin Jackson. Everybody talks about Jones and Cleveland. Jackson’s very similar. Jets fans don’t like him. Doubt Douglas agrees. Just like I doubt he drafts Wills for reasons Bit outlined nicely. 

Bump the don’t draft lists up against the traits the coach and GM seem to be looking for, see who’s in both groups, bet those are the guys.

Definitely one possible scenario is trading back, taking Jackson or jones, then taking shenault in round 2.  Another scenario is taking ruggs or lamb over Thomas.  With speed as a key theme here, especially on offense, the jets board may not necessarily align with consensus.

[section314]

8 minutes ago, bitonti said:

These guys are all projects.

yes JD will take a tackle at 11 if it's a tackle he wants. But legit they all could be gone, then what? Josh Jones at 11?

We can't ignore the "Tua is broken" workout tape or Herbert being the world's biggest Puss-wah.  

if/when there's an early run at OT, it's a KC Tyreek Hill league and we are all living in it. 

 

Disagree...that would be Goff.

[derp]

2 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

Definitely one possible scenario is trading back, taking Jackson or jones, then taking shenault in round 2.  Another scenario is taking ruggs or lamb over Thomas.  With speed as a key theme here, especially on offense, the jets board may not necessarily align with consensus.

The bold is spot on, I think. Very concise way of putting it. A skill I lack.

[derp]

20 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

 

I’m just not sure on the logic here, friends. WR is obviously a need, as is OT, but Douglas is going to prioritize WR because...why? In Douglas’ time with the Ravens, they drafted three WRs in the first round and each of them (Travis Taylor, Mark Clayton, Breshad Perriman) were monolithic busts. I’m not sure how to make the case that he’d want to use his first pick as a GM on Ruggs, who looks like a project, or Jeudy or Lamb who had questionable athletic traits. I saw a guy in free agency who was hyper conservative, who added a bunch of solid interior OL and Fant, and left a gaping hold at OT. IMO, it screams drafting tackle. WR is almost a left-field type pick there.

Three things.

First, I think from a roster building standpoint the WR hole is bigger than the tackle hole - even if the tackle hole looks bigger to us as fans. Jets are likely going to run a lot of 11 and 12 personnel. Not carrying a fullback. Crowder is obviously going to be on the field a bunch as is Perriman. That third receiver is basically a starter, will be on the field a lot. Right now it...Vincynt Smith or Josh Doctson maybe? Someone the Jets picked up off of the scrap heap. At tackle there's a lack of depth but Fant was clearly signed to start albeit with an out for the franchise and Edoga is a young guy who fits what the coaching staff likes and started. Both of those guys are also under team control for the next three years. I think the WR's are basically this year except Crowder who's this year and next year. Does anybody drafted at eleven come in and start? Almost certainly - and you've then relegated an asset to the bench for three years or to be cut. Meanwhile an entire WR core needs to be pieced together.

Second, perhaps I'm taking the desire for speed more seriously than I should - but I do think Douglas wants a fast group of offensive skill players and I think he's backed himself into a corner where at least one WR needs to be drafted. I don't think he's going to deviate from that plan of trying to be more explosive. The more explosive WR's lean early - Ruggs, Jeudy, Jefferson. Of the guys who could be available at 48 Mims and Reagor for sure fit the bill. Aiyuk maybe. All of those guys could be off the board though. Claypool ran well but looks like a TE sometimes - does he count? Hamler is explosive but had major drop issues, do you draft him expecting day one production? Not sure. I like Higgins and Pittman but don't think they fit the archetype. Maybe he likes Shenault. I bet he likes Shenault. I like Shenault too. But it's a little harder to find a clean plan for the WR group.

And third, I want a tackle at eleven. Namely Thomas or Becton. So there's absolutely a degree of me trying to brace myself for this not playing out as neatly as I want - because it never plays out as neatly as I want. I'd rather try to think through why it won't be clean the way I want than be pleasantly surprised it is. And I frankly think that picking up a receiver in the first who starts and following that up with a tackle to compete with Edoga is more of an NFL GM move than us armchair GM's would like.

[Augustiniak]

5 minutes ago, derp said:

Three things.

First, I think from a roster building standpoint the WR hole is bigger than the tackle hole - even if the tackle hole looks bigger to us as fans. Jets are likely going to run a lot of 11 and 12 personnel. Not carrying a fullback. Crowder is obviously going to be on the field a bunch as is Perriman. That third receiver is basically a starter, will be on the field a lot. Right now it...Vincynt Smith or Josh Doctson maybe? Someone the Jets picked up off of the scrap heap. At tackle there's a lack of depth but Fant was clearly signed to start albeit with an out for the franchise and Edoga is a young guy who fits what the coaching staff likes and started. Both of those guys are also under team control for the next three years. I think the WR's are basically this year except Crowder who's this year and next year. Does anybody drafted at eleven come in and start? Almost certainly - and you've then relegated an asset to the bench for three years or to be cut. Meanwhile an entire WR core needs to be pieced together.

Second, perhaps I'm taking the desire for speed more seriously than I should - but I do think Douglas wants a fast group of offensive skill players and I think he's backed himself into a corner where at least one WR needs to be drafted. I don't think he's going to deviate from that plan of trying to be more explosive. The more explosive WR's lean early - Ruggs, Jeudy, Jefferson. Of the guys who could be available at 48 Mims and Reagor for sure fit the bill. Aiyuk maybe. All of those guys could be off the board though. Claypool ran well but looks like a TE sometimes - does he count? Hamler is explosive but had major drop issues, do you draft him expecting day one production? Not sure. I like Higgins and Pittman but don't think they fit the archetype. Maybe he likes Shenault. I bet he likes Shenault. I like Shenault too. But it's a little harder to find a clean plan for the WR group.

And third, I want a tackle at eleven. Namely Thomas or Becton. So there's absolutely a degree of me trying to brace myself for this not playing out as neatly as I want - because it never plays out as neatly as I want. I'd rather try to think through why it won't be clean the way I want than be pleasantly surprised it is. And I frankly think that picking up a receiver in the first who starts and following that up with a tackle to compete with Edoga is more of an NFL GM move than us armchair GM's would like.

These are all valid and interesting points.  Douglas can completely change the jets offense by drafting ruggs or lamb, then drafting another weapon in the 3rd.  Throw in herndon returning and a 3rd down rb on day 3 and you have weapons everywhere.  The big question would be, what OT are they getting in round 2, and would they sign peters as a one year solution so that they’re not screwed at RT until one of the rookies is ready?  

I don’t think jeudy fits the profile of what they want at wr in round 1, i think it’s lamb or ruggs.  

[Jet Nut]

3 hours ago, Beerfish said:

During that time for the Jets:

Dline/Edge: 6

CB: 3

S: 2

QB: 2

TE: 1

ILB: 1

Honestly have  to admit, given its Douglases first draft I really dont care what Macc, Idzik and the last years of Tanny brought in.

And on top of it, its way Macc was fired.

[choon328]

1 hour ago, derp said:

I tend to agree with Bit. This draft lines up neatly with what fans want and no team drafts the way fans want. Every year we do the “offensive tackle at eleven, wide receiver at 48, edge rusher at 68, center at 79” nonsense and it never happens.

Ruggs in the first over one or two of the tackles and one or two of Lamb and Jeudy is kind of perfect. Eschews what 95% of fans want while fitting a need and lining up with what it seems Douglas wants to build offensively but everyone is ignoring - which is an offense with enough speed all over the field to spread the field and create big plays. “Speed creates pressure, pressure bursts pipes.” But we’ve got Antonio Gandy-Golden, a fine prospect in his own right but a guy who ran 4.6, in like half this site’s mocks.

Douglas seems like a guy who has a vision for the kind of team he wants to put together. I think he wants the offense to be more athletic. You saw it with FA offensive line. Perriman fits that. There are maybe a few pass catchers who could be there at 48 and fit that? Ruggs for sure fits.

Fans are going to be frustrated after this draft because there’s a really clear, clean plan and I doubt it gets executed that way. I think Laviska Shenault is a fit and nobody wants him. Ditto Austin Jackson. Everybody talks about Jones and Cleveland. Jackson’s very similar. Jets fans don’t like him. Doubt Douglas agrees. Just like I doubt he drafts Wills for reasons Bit outlined nicely. 

Bump the don’t draft lists up against the traits the coach and GM seem to be looking for, see who’s in both groups, bet those are the guys.

Exactly.  The one clear thing everybody can see is that Douglas is building this offense with certain traits at each position.  He wants pass protecting agile offensive lineman which I think eliminates Becton and probably Wills. They want speed and rac ability at WR. That's why guys like Higgins, Pittman, Bryan Edwards, Justin Jefferson may not be a fit for what Douglas is looking for at WR. Besides the top 3, guys like Shenault, Aiyuk, Hamler, Cephus, Reagor, and Mims all fit the criteria they're looking for. Some people are going to be very disappointed come draft night.  I for one like the fact that the GM is actually trying to build the offense around the HC's vision instead of trying to put square pegs in round holes. 

[nyjbuddy]

 https://nfltraderumors.co/oklahoma-lb-kenneth-murray-has-virtual-meeting-scheduled-with-six-teams/

According to Aaron Wilson of the Houston Chronicle, Oklahoma LB Kenneth Murray will have video conferences with several teams including the Texans, Ravens, Cowboys, Falcons, Jets and Cardinals.

https://nfltraderumors.co/oklahoma-wr-ceedee-lamb-has-had-virtual-meetings-with-jets-raiders-49ers/

Oklahoma WR CeeDee Lamb said on Instagram (via @TheSFNiners) that he’s had virtual meetings with the Jets, Raiders and 49ers in recent days. 

[Thai Jet]

4 hours ago, Jetster said:

I can speculate too, 😲, the Jets MAY find a trading partner to move back in the draft, most likely by a team picking after them at #11. 

Why do you always get all the scoops ?

[Wonderboy]

4 hours ago, nycdan said:

The big difference between the two seems to be that Henderson didn't play as physical (tackling) as Okudah.  I can't say how important that distinction is to teams....kind of a Deion vs. Darrelle argument I guess.  It's hard to see him going above Okudah but he could certainly be a top-15 pick.  Both of these guys feel like very safe picks to become solid #1 CBs.

Revis>Deion