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I started watching Baseball in 1980, so I'm making my all time team of players that I have seen.   I can't tell you if Willie Mays was better than Mike Trout, I never really saw Willie play.

Anyway....

Catcher            Pudge Rodriguez

1B                    Big Hurt Frank Thomas

2B                    Roberto "Thems Spitting Words" Alomar

SS                    Alex Rodriguez

3B                   Wade "I'll order chicken" Boggs

DH                  Edgar Martinez

OF                   Kenneth Griffey Jr.

OF                   Mike Trout

OF                   Rickey Henderson          

SP1                 Pedro

SP2                 Roger Clemens

SP3                  Verlander

SP4                  Mussina

Swing Man      Eck

Closer             Mo

Batting Order         Rickey (R), Trout (R), Griffey (L), Thomas (R), A Rod (R), Edgar (R), Boggs (L), Pudge (R), Roberto (S)

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Also note, this is only what players did in the AL, so Randy Johnson's Arizona years don't count, and only what they did after 1980.

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and how's this for the NL, same period ...

P: Madduxx (Gary, not Mike), Kershaw, Randy Johnson, deGrom 

CL: Billy Wagner

C: Piazza

1B; Pujols

2B; Sandberg

SS: Ozzie Smith

3B: Larry Jones

OF: Bonds (Barry, not Bobby), Larry Walker, Tony Gwynn

no DH of course, this is the NL where they play real baseball :)

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13 hours ago, The Crimson King said:

and how's this for the NL, same period ...

P: Madduxx (Gary, not Mike), Kershaw, Randy Johnson, deGrom 

CL: Billy Wagner

😄 Piazza

1B; Pujols

2B; Sandberg

SS: Ozzie Smith

3B: Larry Jones

OF: Bonds (Barry, not Bobby), Larry Walker, Tony Gwynn

no DH of course, this is the NL where they play real baseball :)

Wasn't it Ralph Kiner who said " 2/3 of the world is covered by water, the other 1/3 by Gary Maddox" ?

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34 minutes ago, section314 said:

Wasn't it Ralph Kiner who said " 2/3 of the world is covered by water, the other 1/3 by Gary Maddox" ?

ooooops

Greg Madduxx not Gary was THE pitcher of the era. Now that was a real Kinerism.  

I remember that quote on Gary, it might have been true !

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On 4/16/2020 at 9:08 PM, The Crimson King said:

and how's this for the NL, same period ...

P: Madduxx (Gary, not Mike), Kershaw, Randy Johnson, deGrom 

CL: Billy Wagner

😄 Piazza

1B; Pujols

2B; Sandberg

SS: Ozzie Smith

3B: Larry Jones

OF: Bonds (Barry, not Bobby), Larry Walker, Tony Gwynn

no DH of course, this is the NL where they play real baseball :)

You take DeGrom over Scherzer and over Glavine (2 CY Young, 2 2nd place CY Young, 2 3rd place CY Young, 300 career wins)

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5 minutes ago, chirorob said:

You take DeGrom over Scherzer and over Glavine (2 CY Young, 2 2nd place CY Young, 2 3rd place CY Young, 300 career wins)

Well you can't count Scherzer's Tigers years (remember it's an NL list) but I see your point anyway. Pretty close in most stats except wins (deGrom with way less support)

Glavine I am still mad at for the last game of 2007, but yeah, I see your point there too

Then again,  maybe we should add Tom Seaver to the list. Although he was past his prime by 1980 and only won a few NL games after that, he makes way better wine than any of the pitchers mentioned so far :)

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56 minutes ago, The Crimson King said:

Well you can't count Scherzer's Tigers years (remember it's an NL list) but I see your point anyway. Pretty close in most stats except wins (deGrom with way less support)

Glavine I am still mad at for the last game of 2007, but yeah, I see your point there too

Then again,  maybe we should add Tom Seaver to the list. Although he was past his prime by 1980 and only won a few NL games after that, he makes way better wine than any of the pitchers mentioned so far :)

Scherzer agree, can't count that AL cy young.  Seaver and Carlton were 2 giants, but were mainly done before 1980.

I was at Seavers 300th.  I believe it was Phil Rizzuto day.

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On 4/16/2020 at 7:30 PM, CrazyCarl40 said:

Ortiz over Edgar. Easily.  

With or without steroids?

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On 4/16/2020 at 10:08 PM, The Crimson King said:

and how's this for the NL, same period ...

P: Madduxx (Gary, not Mike), Kershaw, Randy Johnson, deGrom 

CL: Billy Wagner

😄 Piazza

1B; Pujols

2B; Sandberg

SS: Ozzie Smith

3B: Larry Jones

OF: Bonds (Barry, not Bobby), Larry Walker, Tony Gwynn

no DH of course, this is the NL where they play real baseball :)

You consider Piazza a catcher?

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14 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

With or without steroids?

We gonna do that for every position or nah?

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1 hour ago, Philc1 said:

You consider Piazza a catcher?

well if you are considering defense, then Yadier Molina, but Molina's lifetime WAR is about 40 while Piazza's is about 60

In any event, neither are Johnny Bench, but he doesn't qualify for the since 1980.

So in lieu thereof, best that I've seen at each position (NL):

P: Koufax, Seaver, Gibson, Maddux

CL: Sutter

C  Bench

1B: Pujols

2B; Sandberg

SS: Ozzie Smith

3B: Schmidt

OF: Mays 

OF: Aaron

OF: Barry Bonds (Frank Robinson if you are on the anti-Bonds train)

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14 hours ago, The Crimson King said:

well if you are considering defense, then Yadier Molina, but Molina's lifetime WAR is about 40 while Piazza's is about 60

In any event, neither are Johnny Bench, but he doesn't qualify for the since 1980.

So in lieu thereof, best that I've seen at each position (NL):

P: Koufax, Seaver, Gibson, Maddux

CL: Sutter

C  Bench

1B: Pujols

2B; Sandberg

SS: Ozzie Smith

3B: Schmidt

OF: Mays 

OF: Aaron

OF: Barry Bonds (Frank Robinson if you are on the anti-Bonds train)

Agree with most of your guys, would change these three.

Carlton for Maddux

Morgan for Sandberg

Clemente or Gwynn for Bonds.....just can't stomach him.

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26 minutes ago, section314 said:

Agree with most of your guys, would change these three.

Carlton for Maddux

Morgan for Sandberg

Clemente or Gwynn for Bonds.....just can't stomach him.

Good call on Morgan

Was thinking about Clemente & F. Robby as 3rd OF. Thought someone would not like the idea of Bonds.

 

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1 minute ago, The Crimson King said:

Good call on Morgan

Was thinking about Clemente & F. Robby as 3rd OF. Thought someone would not like the idea of Bonds.

 

Knowing you, I'll bet Joel Youngblood got some votes.😁

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