OBJ update

[Patriot Killa]

[Thai Jet]

4 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

 

[docdhc]

10 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

No attitude problem but Odell is at a "boiling point" over his numbers?  I'd say that is a big attitude problem.

[slats]

13 minutes ago, docdhc said:

No attitude problem but Odell is at a "boiling point" over his numbers?  I'd say that is a big attitude problem.

Exactly what I was gonna say. 

[T0mShane]

14 minutes ago, docdhc said:

No attitude problem but Odell is at a "boiling point" over his numbers?  I'd say that is a big attitude problem.

Mike Freeman refuses to call out players for being headcases and consistently chooses to blame their environments for their poor behavior. He’s terrible. 

[Dcat]

28 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

"boiling point"  "not a good fit with Mayfield"

THis sounds like he will be dealt for bargain prices.  But nothing will shock me more than Houston letting Nuke go for a 2nd & David Johnson.  If that's the standard for disgruntled stars, then OBJ is worth a 3rd

[section314]

Let's see.....couldn't get along with a 2x super Bowl MVP, Gm was afraid to expose this virus to the FQB he was going to draft, and new GM of Browns is getting rid of him to save his FQB. This guy is the biggest a**hole in the NFL, and that's saying a lot. JD, I know it goes against how you were trained, but this is one call you don't answer.

[Thai Jet]

2 minutes ago, section314 said:

Let's see.....couldn't get along with a 2x super Bowl MVP, Gm was afraid to expose this virus to the FQB he was going to draft, and new GM of Browns is getting rid of him to save his FQB. This guy is the biggest a**hole in the NFL, and that's saying a lot. JD, I know it goes against how you were trained, but this is one call you don't answer.

Until Antonio Brown comes back. lol

[Patriot Killa]

Lol ...feelings, possibilities based on feelings, thug turds, culture destroyers.

 

get OBJ in Green/White because my QB needs a freaking football player worth being on the field. Thx. They’re grown men. They can work it out smfh.

[jetsfansince7]

Maybe this is where Bill Obrien and the Texans step in a fix the error they made in FA

[Jimmy 2 Times]

DO IT!

He'd instantly become the most talented wide receiver we've ever had.

5th and a conditional higher pick (2 or 3) next year.

[Jetlife33]

At this point I’ll believe it when I see it, at the same time regarding the Jets I really don’t want this dude near Darnold. Douglas isn’t going to give up draft picks and pay OBJs salary. It goes against everything he’s done so far as GM. 

[Defense Wins Championships]

I wouldn't give up a 1st for him I rather just take Jerry Jeudy. 

But I can't lie he's an animal.

I couldn't care less if he's a diva (most star WRs are) because 464 receptions, 6,511 receiving yards and 48 TD Receptions (6 years). 

His numbers would be even greater (hard to believe) if not for missing 12 games (2017).

He's the most dominant WR I've ever seen outside of maybe only Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald. 

Only reason I wouldn't give up our 1st is because he's now 27 years old (time goes by fast) and in 3 years he'll be 30 compared to a 23 year old in Jeudy who's just entering his prime. 

But pound for pound he's been one of the top 5 most dominant WR's I've ever watched. T.O in his prime ranks up there for me too. 

But if it's for something crazy like a 4th or 5th? lol. 

Odell Beckham and Jerry Jeudy on the outside for Darnold would become unstoppable. 

[New York Mick]

Let him go to another. He’s the last thing the jets need. He’s a huge diva

[playtowinthegame]

I'd be shocked if OBJ doesn't come back to NYC. His natural environment is in New York. Joe needs to bring him home. OBJ's bags are packed. He's got an airplane ticket. Bring him to to the airport, Joe. Bring OBJ to the Jets.

[Patriot Killa]

OBJ would make grabbing an OT (worthy OT) that much easier. Lamb/Jeudy and OBJ on both sides is suddenly a scary thought. theres a few ways to slice this and what an upgrade he would be.
 

OBJ to the Jets instantly changes offensive trajectory. You do realize we would have an offense with Le’Veon Bell and OBJ on the same team. Build the OL and let’s go.

[Lil O]

28 minutes ago, Thai Jet said:

Until Antonio Brown comes back. lol

And there is always Tyreek Hill and Joe Mixon.  To quote actor/comedian Eddie Griffin, from the movie John Q...they belong to the “Smack-a-Hoe” Tribe.

[Barton]

Free Weezy! 

[14 in Green]

Just now, Patriot Killa said:

OBJ would make grabbing an OT (worthy OT) that much easier. Lamb/Jeudy and OBJ on both sides is suddenly a scary thought. theres a few ways to slice this and what an upgrade he would be.
 

OBJ to the Jets instantly changes offensive trajectory. You do realize we would have an offense with Le’Veon Bell and OBJ on the same team. Build the OL and let’s go.

You say you want him, but are you ready to pay for him?

Forget the nonsense people are suggesting to offer Cleveland thinking the Browns will just give him away. One guy said a 5th, another thinks a 3rd will get him, LOL.

I'm the Cleveland GM... I'm asking for your 1st round pick this year, and our late 3rd. The lowest I'll accept from Douglas, assuming he doesn't want to give up this years 1st, is this years 2nd, our two 3rds, and next years 2nd.

Do you still want to make the deal?

[bla bla bla]

Odell literally accused Gregg Williams of trying to knock him out of a pre-season game. THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN!

 

 

 

[predator_05]

If you can get him cheap (hopkins cheap), why not?

[Dcat]

Just now, bla bla bla said:

Odell literally accused Gregg Williams of trying to knock him out of a pre-season game. THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN!

good.  He's a problem. He will create more angst than positive production.  Screw that.  Draft CeeDee. 

[Barry McCockinner]

Trade a 3rd round pick for this beast.

[nycdan]

Beckham is 'not a good fit' for Mayfield. 

What does that even mean?  Maybe Mayfield is not a good fit for Beckham?  It's not like he's a pure go-route WR playing with a noodle-armed QB.  Is CLE blaming any of Mayfield's 21 INTs last year (compared to 22 TDs) on Beckham?  It's one thing to say OBJ isn't a good fit on the team, but that is a very odd way to phrase it and makes me wonder if Mayfield had a sophomore slump, or if he's hit his ceiling and is heading to Tebow-ville.  In any case, it's clear that CLE is all in with him.  

[Rhg1084]

7 minutes ago, 14 in Green said:

You say you want him, but are you ready to pay for him?

Forget the nonsense people are suggesting to offer Cleveland thinking the Browns will just give him away. One guy said a 5th, another thinks a 3rd will get him, LOL.

I'm the Cleveland GM... I'm asking for your 1st round pick this year, and our 3rd. The lowest I'll accept from Douglas, assuming he doesn't want to give up this years 1st, is this years 2nd, our two 3rds, and next years 2nd.

Do you still want to make the deal?

No of course not giving up a 1. However if it’s a 2 you think about it 

[Matt39]

Just now, nycdan said:

Beckham is 'not a good fit' for Mayfield. 

What does that even mean?  Maybe Mayfield is not a good fit for Beckham?  It's not like he's a pure go-route WR playing with a noodle-armed QB.  Is CLE blaming any of Mayfield's 21 INTs last year (compared to 22 TDs) on Beckham?  It's one thing to say OBJ isn't a good fit on the team, but that is a very odd way to phrase it and makes me wonder if Mayfield had a sophomore slump, or if he's hit his ceiling and is heading to Tebow-ville.  In any case, it's clear that CLE is all in with him.  

Beckham runs sloppy routes and doesnt have good hands. 

[Ohhthepain]

If JD trades for Odell hes the wrong guy for the job.

[Rhg1084]

Just now, Matt39 said:

Beckham runs sloppy routes and doesnt have good hands. 

What are you talking about? He’s on pace to be an all time legendary receiver. Even last years “down season” he still put up over 1000 yards 

[AFJF]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

Mike Freeman refuses to call out players for being headcases and consistently chooses to blame their environments for their poor behavior. He’s terrible. 

Freeman had the Jets going RB at 11.  That should tell us all we need to know about what he brings to the table.

[Matt39]

Just now, Rhg1084 said:

What are you talking about? He’s on pace to be an all time legendary receiver. Even last years “down season” he still put up over 1000 yards 

He gets over targeted because he talks. He's always hurt and drops a ton of passes. Catch rate is mediocre compared to the other big receivers in the league. It's not a coincidence he's going to be on his 3rd team in 3 seasons.

[Losmeister]

1 hour ago, Thai Jet said:

Until Antonio Brown comes back. lol

i think AB is actually crazy/mentally ill.

OBJ being an ashhole is a different caregory, imho

[Lith]

In August of 2018, the Giants signed him to a 5-year, $90M contract.  After one season, the Giants decided to eat a $16M dead cap charge to trade him (with Olivier Vernon) for a 1 and a 3 and Kevin Zeitler and Jabril Peppers.

Now, after one season, after surrendering a 1, 3 and 2 starters, the Browns are looking to move him.  There has to be a reason that he is avaialble again, 13 months later. 

We would likely have to give up multiple picks, and pay him $14MM this year.  I would pass.

 

[The Crusher]

44 minutes ago, New York Mick said:

Let him go to another. He’s the last thing the jets need. He’s a huge diva

Since Sam isn’t, it may actually work. If it’s not coat  prohibitive I would pull the trigger. We draft O line early, then draft  couple WO in this deep draft to add to Beckham.  Our offensive could turn into a force of nature  over draft weekend. 

[Rhg1084]

3 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

He gets over targeted because he talks. He's always hurt and drops a ton of passes. Catch rate is mediocre compared to the other big receivers in the league. It's not a coincidence he's going to be on his 3rd team in 3 seasons.

He’s had 260 passes thrown to him last 2 years and has dropped 10 passes. The guy is a stud and you don’t know what you’re talking about 

[nycdan]

7 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Beckham runs sloppy routes and doesnt have good hands. 

Beckham's catch % in NY after his first season was just over 60% and went down to about 55% in CLE last season.  

However, take a look at Jarvis Landry.  His four years in MIA with Tannehill, his catch %s were 75, 66.3, 71.8, 69.6.  In his two seasons in CLE, they went down to 54.4 and 60.1.  That's a huge drop.  I don't know if it's because of QB, system, weather or other factors, but it does create a question mark about Mayfield's accuracy, which was not in question at all during his college career.  Frankly, I have little love for either of these players and don't care a bit about internal strife in CLE but OBJ is looking a lot like he's following the Terrell Owens playbook (and hopefully not the Antonio Brown one).