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https://jetswire.usatoday.com/2020/04/20/jets-joe-douglas-poor-track-record-drafting-wide-receivers-2020-nfl-draft/

The Jets are in serious need of wide receiver resurgence. They’ve lacked a true No. 1 option since Brandon Marshall in 2015 and have drafted incredibly poorly at the position over the past 20 years.  

That all can change in 2020, though. With four picks in the first three rounds, a new general manager and a deep receiver class, the Jets are in prime position to land at least one impact pass-catcher. 

Joe Douglas has an opportunity to right the wrongs of his predecessors when it comes to drafting this year, but it’s unclear if he’ll be able to live up to expectations at the wide receiver position. His track record with scouting and drafting receivers hasn’t been great at his previous stops and there’s no telling if the staff he built in New York can find the next star wideout.

During his 14 years as a scout for the Ravens, Douglas saw Baltimore draft 17 wide receivers since 2000. Only four of them eclipsed 1,000 career receiving yards – Travis Taylor (2000), Mark Clayton (2005), Demetrius Williams (2006) and Torrey Smith (2011). That’s almost as bad as the Jets’ track record drafting wideouts. It’s unclear how much influence Douglas had in selecting those Baltimore receivers, but the results didn’t get better when he moved up the front office ladder with the Bears and Eagles.

Douglas served as the director of college scouting for the Bears for the 2016 draft. Chicago took one receiver that year – Daniel Braveman – in the seventh round. He only played in three games. In the three drafts he ran as the Eagles’ vice president of player personnel from 2017-2019, Douglas only drafted three receivers – Mack Hollins, Shelton Gibson and J.J. Arcega-Whiteside. Hollins and Gibson were Douglas’ fourth- and fifth-round picks in  2017, and both aren’t on the team anymore after tallying only 29 receptions for 410 yards and one touchdown combined. Arcega-Whiteside didn’t impress in his rookie season after Douglas took him in the second round of the 2019 draft, but he has the opportunity to grow in a great offensive system.

This all doesn’t bode well for the Jets finding their receiver of the future in the 2020 draft. But, it does offer an interesting idea to increase their odds of finding a serviceable wideout. 

Douglas needs to draft to his strengths early – which is obviously the offensive line. While the top three receiver prospects – Jerry Jeudy, CeeDee Lamb and Henry Ruggs III – are all great prospects, the Jets need to hit on their 11th overall pick with a player who is a bonafide stud that will perform independent of the rest of the offense. An offensive lineman should do that more than a receiver, and history shows that

After going offensive line, though, the Jets would be wise to take as many receivers as they could throughout the rest of the draft.

This class is loaded with talent in multiple rounds, and the Jets can hedge their bets by grabbing at least two receivers after their first-round pick. Douglas isn’t known to take more than one player per position in a single draft, but the Jets need a quality receiver and can’t risk taking only one shot at finding one in the draft. There are players in the second, third, fourth and fifth rounds who could turn into quality contributors for the Jets, and that’s the sweet spot Douglas should target.

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19 minutes ago, 82nd Airborne said:

He probably had a strong opinion on these draftees. 

I’m sure he did (especially in Philly), but its not fair to grade him on the picks. Ultimately it was Ozzie Newsome and Howie Roseman who made the picks.   You can argue that Roseman is another Tannnenbaum style bean counter, but I’d be willing to bet Doug Pederson’s opinion matters a lot too. 

I’m sure everyone here has read the story about Terry Bradway’s love affair for Russell Wilson. Bradway essentially had the same role with the Jets as Douglas had with the Eagles. 

Why isn’t Russell Wilson on the Jets?

Because Mike Tannenbaum trusted Rex Ryans evaluation of Russell Wilson over Terry Bradway’s. 

 

 

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I'm going to give JD a mulligan...for whatever past draft sins he may have committed...in his capacity with those other teams.  I'm going to muster up the courage...and judge him based on his NYJ drafts only.  Starting with JD's first NYJ draft...April 23rd - 25th.  

Let us all pray to the Gods 'O Canton...and hope for the best.

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54 minutes ago, jgb said:

I've slammed articles attributing positive picks made on teams where JD was employed as reflecting his expertise and now I condemn articles laying negative picks made by those same teams at his feet.

my angle is that the Jets took a guy witha good pedigree for GM...  how much influence he had on former teams draft choices is something that is more speculative than not, as far as i can see....

its wait n see, for now...

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3 minutes ago, Losmeister said:

my angle is that the Jets took a guy witha good pedigree for GM...  how much influence he had on former teams draft choices is something that is more speculative than not, as far as i can see....

its wait n see, for now...

Easy to bang that desk when your handwriting not on the card. I do have high hopes for JD. But I need evidence to believe.

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1 hour ago, 82nd Airborne said:

He probably had a strong opinion on these draftees. 

Are you really using 4th, 5th and 7th round picks to say he doesn't draft good WR's? The hit rate in the 4th round on any player is like 10-15%. What a ridiculous argument. 

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2 minutes ago, jgb said:

Bingo bongo.

Similar things were said about Idzik.

After watching that documentary The Last Dance last night I am so glad I never got the hankering to go into sports personnel or management.  What an absolutely f-ing worthless, most UN-gratifying sadistic culture we've created where you lose even if you win.  Now I know why Goodell has such a ridiculous salary for being the owner's punching bag.  "They blame me for everything and curse my name after my death.  You are going to pay me for it!"

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4 minutes ago, pdxgreen said:

After watching that documentary The Last Dance last night I am so glad I never got the hankering to go into sports personnel or management.  What an absolutely f-ing worthless, most UN-gratifying sadistic culture we've created where you lose even if you win.  Now I know why Goodell has such a ridiculous salary for being the owner's punching bag.  "They blame me for everything and curse my name after my death.  You are going to pay me for it!"

People say Mel Kiper sucks at his job by pointing out his misses. Uh... everyone has misses in the draft and Kiper makes public his analysis of like 300 guys. All we know about GMs is their 7 picks a year—who they think are the best of those available at each selection. And they at best find 50% of guys who contribute. Fans don’t realize what a ridiculous crapshoot the draft is.

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10 minutes ago, choon328 said:

It means he gives an opinion to the guy making the picks.  He doesn't dictate who gets picked. 

He doesn't make the final decision but endorses the top choices.   It is like a legislation that it is brought to the President for his signature that gets partially reviewed. Coaches and GMs rely on scouting reports and recommendations. 

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3 minutes ago, 82nd Airborne said:

He doesn't make the final decision but endorses the top choices.   It is like a legislation that it is brought to the President for his signature that gets partially reviewed. Coaches and GMs rely on scouting reports and recommendations. 

No. GM is dictator. Not like President at all. No idea what JD said. Thus I don’t attribute good or bad picks to him. 
 

Although some optimism: we finally got a guy whose current employer fought hard to keep and we didn’t use a brain dead recruiter like Korn Ferry to recruit. Personally terrible experience with KF. Like 0-5 with my searches.

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Just trying to find something negative to stick huh? This maybe an unpopular opinion because we're the Jets. I have all the confidence in the world in JD. He's got 3 rings under his belt and spent years learning the ropes from one of the best GM's of all time. He spent money wisely in areas of need in FA. Now we'll get to see how handles a draft. This will tell us alot about what we have and what the plan is. Let's let it play out. 

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15 minutes ago, jgb said:

People here say Mel Kiper sucks at his job by pointing out his misses. Uh... everyone has missed in the draft and Kiper makes public his analysis of like 300 guys. All we know about GMs is their 7 picks a year—who they think are the best of them hats available. Fans don’t realize what a ridiculous crapshoot the draft is.

Makes you wonder what special quality Ozzie Newsome had.  That dude was Yoda as far as drafting was concerned.

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Just now, pdxgreen said:

Makes you wonder what special quality Ozzie Newsome had.  That dude was Yoda as far as drafting was concerned.

His draft hit percentage approached 50%. Which is a god in the draft. But yet Kiper sucks because he has some misses.

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