HBO WATCHMEN Mafia - Game Thread -TULSA WINS!!!

[Drums]

6 minutes ago, A.J. said:

If you read the game then you have already seen the explanation. Drums - albeit limited sample size - has established a day & night meta for his alignment. As Town he is sharp, engaging. As scum he hid out in the QT until he got vigged after a few Days. I know this because I was on his team that game.

Who are you really then? Just to clear the air.

I actually hid out the entire game. I might have posted like 5 times in that game. I needed a break but also I saw how easy it was to hide out and survive. I didn't expect to win that way but I am not interested in playing as scum. 

With that said, I honestly just wasn't feeling this game over the weekend nor most of yesterday but I did put more effort in last night and posted some of my thoughts this morning. 

[JiF]

6 minutes ago, Drums said:

Wait, so you are mad that I voted you with what I said but the way you voted Dandie was ok? Also, it isn't that much effort yet, but it will grow as the game grows. Thirdly, are you saying you were the biggest train? Because you weren't when I voted you, at best you were tied.  I was actually holding off on voting you because I wanted to watch more of your behavior but the monkey's out of the bottle man.

And not just the way you played four games ago because I already get a different feel from you than last game when you were pretty obviously town. I know you didn't vote all Kingmaker--you said that in the last game-- which is why I have been paying attention to you. So what, you voted in this one, big deal it was a BS vote. Now your vote on me is a little better but still pretty weak. I'd say enough has happened now for you to comment on as the experienced player that you are but you haven't really mentioned any thoughts on anything that's been going on and come to think of it, you actually locked onto me in Kingmaker when you were scum though so maybe it makes sense. 

Mad?  No.  I dont get mad.  What you did was gross and therefore worthy of a vote.  My vote on dandie has nothing to do with the garbage you just posted.  4 is more than 3 so yes, I was the biggest train when you started the amazing case of "JiF is playing like he did during Kingmaker".  The bold only makes me feel better about my vote.

So now it's not just that I'm playing the same as I did in Kingmaker (the game I never placed a vote, I'm on 2 votes on D1 this game) but it's also I'm playing different than last game.  All so convenient "cases".  The game I'm playing the same as, I was scum!  wow!!!!  The game I'm playing different than, I was town!!!! wow!!!!   And hey yeah, look more about that other game too!!!

This is all garbage convenient horse sh*t to tie your vote to the biggest train and easy lynch.

 

 

 

[Pac]

9 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Barry’s been twitchy this game , but really too early to apply that to alignment.

Nyn? Bunny is not one to snap to judgment day 1 on. She is very good at town and as the game go’s on we get  flips then we can look at her better. Better to look at her lack of good town play later then try to discern her as scum. 
 

AVM doesn’t see you focused, not going to make shut up because really haven’t noticed much. 
 

Drums case was well thought out but did ring somewhat contrived . One to watch. Somebody was screaming for him as scum earlier. Maybe Barry? 
 

AJ is another one under my radar. 
 

DPR is DPRing and Smash and Nolder are doing their day 1 scarce thing. I do remember a Game  were Smash was scum and engaged very early. Not sure it applies. 
 

Pac? Cruising offering nothing, appearing like he’s ready to hammer but not willing to put the work in. Might be busy at work and might not. But  I’d kill him for a giggle right now. His late game  reads for the most part but abysmal as of late.,  I see very little downside in lynching him regardless of alignment. 
 

 

Am I on to you heavyset?  

[Drums]

4 minutes ago, JiF said:

Mad?  No.  I dont get mad.  What you did was gross and therefore worthy of a vote.  My vote on dandie has nothing to do with the garbage you just posted.  4 is more than 3 so yes, I was the biggest train when you started the amazing case of "JiF is playing like he did during Kingmaker".  The bold only makes me feel better about my vote.

So now it's not just that I'm playing the same as I did in Kingmaker (the game I never placed a vote, I'm on 2 votes on D1 this game) but it's also I'm playing different than last game.  All so convenient "cases".  The game I'm playing the same as, I was scum!  wow!!!!  The game I'm playing different than, I was town!!!! wow!!!!   And hey yeah, look more about that other game too!!!

This is all garbage convenient horse sh*t to tie your vote to the biggest train and easy lynch.

 

 

 

Aw, snap. You got me. 

[CTM]

2 hours ago, Dandie Andie Doodle said:

Crusher was right, he told me you basically turn everything ape says into ghey.

WHy would interpret fanny pack wearing to be gay? I'm think more a hen pecked doughy dude who gets treated like an infectual efem at home by wife and kids and at work and takes it out by shouting at people on the internet + extreme porn. 

Sounds like ape actually now that you mention it

[JiF]

1 minute ago, Drums said:

Aw, snap. You got me. 

Yeah, I know, that's why I'm voting you. 

[Jetsfan80]

4 hours ago, Smashmouth said:

This is why I push for an Alt game but never get it. Sure at some stage in a large game we may figure out who is who but thats the fun of it as well and it will; eliminate the meta to a large extent as part of the fun will be not being discovered

I've run 2 Alt games.  They're not easy to pull off.  And inevitably, people start figuring out who is who based on their posting style.  

[The Crusher]

6 minutes ago, Pac said:

Am I on to you heavyset?  

Well you are a fan of big phat asses. 

[AVM]

28 minutes ago, JiF said:

I dont know what Nyn is voting me for, I mean, nothing but whatevs, Sister is cool with me.

AVM just decided I was scum right off the rip and has done nothing else, which is always stellar town play, would be surprised if he buries that all th way to the night.  

Barry has a thing for me, so I totally get his vote.  He's been obsessed with voting me for no reason for a few games now.  Honestly, it turns me on.

AJ is scared sh*tless of me.  So he makes sense.

Drums?  Now that was some gross fake scum hunting.

 

 

Scum? Hmm.

You're the most interesting thing for me to vote at the moment. Maybe I'll stay, maybe I won't.

[The Crusher]

2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

I've run 2 Alt games.  They're not easy to pull off.  And inevitably, people start figuring out who is who based on their posting style.  

So people post less to stay hidden. Haha, 

[JiF]

2 minutes ago, AVM said:

Scum? Hmm.

You're the most interesting thing for me to vote at the moment. Maybe I'll stay, maybe I won't.

Did you suddenly starting voting for people who you think is town? 

 

[A.J.]

2 hours ago, Drums said:

Honestly, what a bunch of shady sh*t around the Dandie train. 

As I was reading through AJ kinda jumped out at me first, probably because he was more active. Here are my notes (copied from a Google Doc)

• Pretty much starts the CTM train in post 14. By pretty much, I mean Smash votes CTM and AJ votes him 1 minute after.

• Plants a seed about me being a bit too quiet early in the game, a weird game at that

• Post 184, to me, sounds like he has extra info. I had to go back and re-read the original storyline. Could just be experienced observations

• Votes me to just poke a little since I was quiet. I didn’t take it as more than that

• Cools on CTM

• Starts the Dandie train in post 415 

  • Barry jumps on right away

• Continues to make somewhat of a big deal over Dandie, which doesn’t really make sense.

• Eggs on others to vote him too 

• Even cooler on CTM now in post 549

• Still low key planting seeds that I’m scum because I’ve been quiet in post 668

Nothing I can do about the timing of mine and Smash's votes. We basically posted at the same time and I didn't care enough to change it.

The game state being weird doesn't give you an excuse not to participate. Others have been here and trying to make something of the mess. I called you Town in Blade after a matter of pages because, to me, it was obvious how different you were as scum & Town. Your play so far is more reminiscent of Red Dawn where you kept your head down. I'll also say that it is convenient at the least that you've landed yourself where you have.

Perhaps I do have extra info that leads me to believe there's a difference between local Tulsa scum and outsider scum. Perhaps I also just read carefully and the conclusion seems obvious. Whether or not they are different factions will come to light in time.

[SMC]

Official Vote Count:

CTM (3) - Smash, Nolder, 80

JIF (5) - Nyn, AVM, Barry, AJ, Drums

Dandie (2) - Hess, Pac

Pac (2) - Crusher, Arsis

Barry (1) -  JC

JC (1) - Dandie

Arsis (1) - Dice 

DPR (1) - CTM

Hess (1) - Stark

Drums (1) - JiF

With 19 Citizens of Tulsa, it takes 10 to arrest

[Gone]

23 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Barry’s been twitchy this game , but really too early to apply that to alignment.

Nyn? Bunny is not one to snap to judgment day 1 on. She is very good at town and as the game go’s on we get  flips then we can look at her better. Better to look at her lack of good town play later then try to discern her as scum. 
 

AVM doesn’t see you focused, not going to make shut up because really haven’t noticed much. 
 

Drums case was well thought out but did ring somewhat contrived . One to watch. Somebody was screaming for him as scum earlier. Maybe Barry? 
 

AJ is another one under my radar. 
 

DPR is DPRing and Smash and Nolder are doing their day 1 scarce thing. I do remember a Game  were Smash was scum and engaged very early. Not sure it applies. 
 

Pac? Cruising offering nothing, appearing like he’s ready to hammer but not willing to put the work in. Might be busy at work and might not. But  I’d kill him for a giggle right now. His late game  reads for the most part but abysmal as of late.,  I see very little downside in lynching him regardless of alignment. 
 

 

I dont understand what your lean on me is from this. 

[Barry McCockinner]

15 minutes ago, Drums said:

I actually hid out the entire game. I might have posted like 5 times in that game. I needed a break but also I saw how easy it was to hide out and survive. I didn't expect to win that way but I am not interested in playing as scum. 

With that said, I honestly just wasn't feeling this game over the weekend nor most of yesterday but I did put more effort in last night and posted some of my thoughts this morning. 

 

9 minutes ago, Drums said:

Aw, snap. You got me. 

I like that JiF has stopped talking about how much he likes cock and has starting playing. I'm good there for now.

unvote

These drums posts above just feel fake as F to me. Why does he feel the need to tell us "I am not interested in playing as scum". When people started using phrases like "honestly" and "trust me" (he didn't use this one) my liedar detector goes berserk. And then the "aw snap" line - gross - I think maybe he did get you.

vote drums

[Gone]

Just now, Barry McCockinner said:

I like that JiF has stopped talking about how much he likes cock and has starting playing. I'm good there for now.

Lmfao

[Jetsfan80]

4 hours ago, Dandie Andie Doodle said:

Can you Explain why you said Jif hasn’t said ‘my favorite role’ all season? Thanks.

 

I was joking.  I'm well aware he's said it, pretty sure it was once this season as a joke IIRC.  

[Drums]

14 minutes ago, A.J. said:

Nothing I can do about the timing of mine and Smash's votes. We basically posted at the same time and I didn't care enough to change it.

The game state being weird doesn't give you an excuse not to participate. Others have been here and trying to make something of the mess. I called you Town in Blade after a matter of pages because, to me, it was obvious how different you were as scum & Town. Your play so far is more reminiscent of Red Dawn where you kept your head down. I'll also say that it is convenient at the least that you've landed yourself where you have.

Perhaps I do have extra info that leads me to believe there's a difference between local Tulsa scum and outsider scum. Perhaps I also just read carefully and the conclusion seems obvious. Whether or not they are different factions will come to light in time.

Sorry man but that was garbage the first ten or so pages and I wanted to play mafia not really joke around. That's cool that other people were into it but I loved Blade so I was automatically into that game plus I had a role that I needed to take seriously. 

8 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

 

I like that JiF has stopped talking about how much he likes cock and has starting playing. I'm good there for now.

unvote

These drums posts above just feel fake as F to me. Why does he feel the need to tell us "I am not interested in playing as scum". When people started using phrases like "honestly" and "trust me" (he didn't use this one) my liedar detector goes berserk. And then the "aw snap" line - gross - I think maybe he did get you.

vote drums

You're welcome for getting Jif in the game but since I know my alignment, his "case" on me doesn't make me feel better about him. It will be interesting to see if he actually attempts to look at anyone else or just parks on me. Also, just like some people always ask my pet peeve of "are you scum/town?", I will most likely always respond like "aw snap"  or "nice catch" because I am just a smart ass person and can't help it, so if you're going to vote me for that, "oh well".

[A.J.]

AVM seems shadier to me this game, but I had him as Town early on when he was part of the SK clan so I'm not sure how to take that.

Stark voting Hess is interesting but I don't hate it.

Pac's bluster I'm beginning to think is a Town tell. The more obnoxious the better.

JiF OMGUS'ing Drums is half expected but doesn't really help me get a better read on either at the moment.

 

Vote Drums

you were better off just saying you had better things to do than blaming the game state for not playing

[Gone]

1 minute ago, A.J. said:

AVM seems shadier to me this game, but I had him as Town early on when he was part of the SK clan so I'm not sure how to take that.

Stark voting Hess is interesting but I don't hate it.

Pac's bluster I'm beginning to think is a Town tell. The more obnoxious the better.

JiF OMGUS'ing Drums is half expected but doesn't really help me get a better read on either at the moment.

 

Vote Drums

you were better off just saying you had better things to do than blaming the game state for not playing

We were cult hunting last game so I wouldn't dwell on the AVM meta of that game too much.

I'd like him to be more involved though. Same for hess.

[Drums]

Just now, A.J. said:

AVM seems shadier to me this game, but I had him as Town early on when he was part of the SK clan so I'm not sure how to take that.

Stark voting Hess is interesting but I don't hate it.

Pac's bluster I'm beginning to think is a Town tell. The more obnoxious the better.

JiF OMGUS'ing Drums is half expected but doesn't really help me get a better read on either at the moment.

 

Vote Drums

you were better off just saying you had better things to do than blaming the game state for not playing

I'm not going to lie. I had other things to do but the major reason I didn't post was because I just wasn't feeling the game at the time. Now I am posting and all of a sudden I'm getting attacked. Why don't you ask 600 more questions about Dandie when you could have simply looked up his posts and found out yourself like I just did?

[Arsis]

2 minutes ago, Drums said:

Sorry man but that was garbage the first ten or so pages and I wanted to play mafia not really joke around. That's cool that other people were into it but I loved Blade so I was automatically into that game plus I had a role that I needed to take seriously. 

You're welcome for getting Jif in the game but since I know my alignment, his "case" on me doesn't make me feel better about him. It will be interesting to see if he actually attempts to look at anyone else or just parks on me. Also, just like some people always ask my pet peeve of "are you scum/town?", I will most likely always respond like "aw snap"  or "nice catch because I am just a smart ass person and can't help it, so if you're going to vote me for that, "oh well".

You know you alignment? Since I don't know your alignment how about you help me out and explain it to me. Break it down for me. What's wrong with his case on you?

 

You wanted to play mafia instead of joking around and you did that by not participating at all? Explain that line of reasoning to me?

[Drums]

Just now, Arsis said:

You know you alignment? Since I don't know your alignment how about you help me out and explain it to me. Break it down for me. What's wrong with his case on you?

 

You wanted to play mafia instead of joking around and you did that by not participating at all? Explain that line of reasoning to me?

Explain to me how there was anything to play with all of the posts early in the game? I was just waiting for it to end.

Explain my alignment would be a reveal so I'll let you figure it out yourself. 

[Barry McCockinner]

I feel like AJ is following me around and it's starting to creep me out. 

[Jetsfan80]

2 hours ago, Dandie Andie Doodle said:

Feel better about drums. AJ or notbob would be good lynch.

Is this based partly on Drums having AJ and JC as 2 of the 3 he's looking at?  

[Jetsfan80]

2 hours ago, Stark said:

yeah he was... did you pay attention to the last few days. its not weird if its true. Dude completely butt-fumbled the ending by double thinking every scenario. 

And how is he doing anything different right now?  This still makes no sense.

[Arsis]

Just now, Drums said:

Explain to me how there was anything to play with all of the posts early in the game? I was just waiting for it to end.

Explain my alignment would be a reveal so I'll let you figure it out yourself. 

Nice twist. That's not what I asked at all.

I asked what was wrong with the case he made against you. Can you explain to me what's wrong with his case. You say it's terrible. Why? 

[Jetscode1]

1 hour ago, The Crusher said:

I would look to the middle. 

...and yet I'm the only guy voting him.  Jump on this train big guy, we need you.

[Jetsfan80]

1 hour ago, AVM said:

You too? Nice!

You drew Master of Chaos?  Lucky SOB.

[SMC]

Official Vote Count:

CTM (3) - Smash, Nolder, 80

JIF (3) - Nyn, AVM, Drums

Drums (3) - JiF, Barry, AJ

Dandie (2) - Hess, Pac

Pac (2) - Crusher, Arsis

Barry (1) -  JC

JC (1) - Dandie

Arsis (1) - Dice 

DPR (1) - CTM

Hess (1) - Stark

With 19 Citizens of Tulsa, it takes 10 to arrest

[Jetscode1]

44 minutes ago, Drums said:

For the love of god, if any of you just went back and looked at his posts, you'd see Dandie is Integrity28.

Here is proof: 

Look at the quotes. Can't change the name in there.

 

 

^^^This guy gets it^^^^

[Drums]

5 minutes ago, Arsis said:

Nice twist. That's not what I asked at all.

I asked what was wrong with the case he made against you. Can you explain to me what's wrong with his case. You say it's terrible. Why? 

Didn't I respond to him already? There's not much from him to break down but if you have questions that I've not already talked about, I will be happy to answer. 

[A.J.]

9 minutes ago, Nynaeve said:

We were cult hunting last game so I wouldn't dwell on the AVM meta of that game too much.

I'd like him to be more involved though. Same for hess.

Fair point.

Hess has just been doing his usual vote shifting which I fail to see the reason for most of the time beyond the sake of doing it. We'll see what else he brings, but I don't hate Stark voting there.

[Barry McCockinner]

10 minutes ago, Drums said:

I'm not going to lie. I had other things to do but the major reason I didn't post was because I just wasn't feeling the game at the time. Now I am posting and all of a sudden I'm getting attacked. Why don't you ask 600 more questions about Dandie when you could have simply looked up his posts and found out yourself like I just did?

[A.J.]

11 minutes ago, Drums said:

I'm not going to lie. I had other things to do but the major reason I didn't post was because I just wasn't feeling the game at the time. Now I am posting and all of a sudden I'm getting attacked. Why don't you ask 600 more questions about Dandie when you could have simply looked up his posts and found out yourself like I just did?

Sassy swipes you're taking.

It's already been established that Dandie is Ape's old account, but that Ape isn't using it. How did you miss that? Crusher literally confirmed that Teh Bumble was the real Ape, plus whoever is currently posting as Dandie I doubt would refer to JC as his name from another website. Or use werewolf & villager for alignments - that's not really a JN thing.