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Per RAS (Relative Athletic Score), Jets drafted 3 of the Top 14 most athletic players who received grades

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Something good is happening here in this draft.  That hasn't happened in quite a while.

Brand new shiny toys with speed and athleticism.   Hopefully some more of these tomorrow.  

Can't wait to see them play,

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1 minute ago, oc_jet said:

imageproxy.php?img=&key=87c0bc48e7eb0625Also note that Perriman not only fits the profile, but has very similar measurables to Mims. This alone should make the JETS much more difficult to defend.

Makes me hopeful that Perriman's final 5 games in a Bucs uniform where he exploded was just a sign that he'd finally started to meet his high potential and will pick up where he left off.  

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3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Makes me hopeful that Perriman's final 5 games in a Bucs uniform where he exploded was just a sign that he'd finally started to meet his high potential and will pick up where he left off.  

Agreed. Neither might be the most polished route runners but they are two of the fastest guys in the league.

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3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Makes me hopeful that Perriman's final 5 games in a Bucs uniform where he exploded was just a sign that he'd finally started to meet his high potential and will pick up where he left off.  

Perriman is a late bloomer. And when they bloom, its a beautiful thing. Trust me, I know firsthand.

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Just now, oc_jet said:

Agreed. Neither might be the most polished route runners but they are two of the fastest guys in the league.

Which is why its important to get a solid possession WR next.  We have Crowder and Herndon but need one more.

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Clearly seems to be a factor in all of our WR additions. 

 

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1 hour ago, oc_jet said:

Also note that Perriman not only fits the speed and athleticism profile, but has very similar measurables to Mims. This alone should make the JETS much more difficult to defend.

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Agree.

Making opposing defenses less likely to stuff 8 in the box.  They having to be concerned with speedy wideouts that can take it 50-70 yds...to the House.   Which makes it easier for Jets revamped OL...with Bell...to execute a more effective running game. 

Mims-Perriman-Crowder-Herndon...plus the elite receiving skills of Bell...make Jets passing game...more then just respectable.   

Darnold should be pleased...with the OL upgrades and shiny new weapons. 

Maybe more to come...with tonight's picks.   

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6 hours ago, Irish Jet said:

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Clearly seems to be a factor in all of our WR additions. 

 

That's actually Perriman's dad, who looks like he was a hell of an athlete as well. 

I think the common theme so far with Douglas's draft has been athleticism and speed. Davis didn't test at the combine, but he's a track guy who would have likely killed it. On the last, keep your eye on Peoples-Jones, who had one of the highest sparq scores at WR this year. 

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This draft reminds me of when Pete Carroll first got to the Seahawks and just drafted his “type” of players no matter what. He only drafts tall CB etc

Nice to see JD putting a plan of speed and athleticism in the table, maybe it works maybe it doesn’t but it is sure as hell better than what they JD been doing.

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6 minutes ago, ECURB said:

This draft reminds me of when Pete Carroll first got to the Seahawks and just drafted his “type” of players no matter what. He only drafts tall CB etc

Nice to see JD putting a plan of speed and athleticism in the table, maybe it works maybe it doesn’t but it is sure as hell better than what they JD been doing.

I think it's athleticism and low tendency for penalties.  There are worse things to focus on.

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14 minutes ago, maury77 said:

That's actually Perriman's dad, who looks like he was a hell of an athlete as well. 

I think the common theme so far with Douglas's draft has been athleticism and speed. Davis didn't test at the combine, but he's a track guy who would have likely killed it. On the last, keep your eye on Peoples-Jones, who had one of the highest sparq scores at WR this year. 

Sign that beast. Not sure how I ****ed that up lol.

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6 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Makes me hopeful that Perriman's final 5 games in a Bucs uniform where he exploded was just a sign that he'd finally started to meet his high potential and will pick up where he left off.  

tampa led league is passing yards...    averaged 38 attempts per game over last 5....      he avgd just over 7 targets/per...

make him the #3, mims #1 and crowder slot #2... 

large sized dedric ward role....    am all about mims

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This is basically a thrust to weight ratio?

we got a bunch of Shelby cobras?

sweet. 😎

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29 minutes ago, nico002 said:

How does Ruggs not make that list?

It factors in size, height weight. Becton running a 5.1 at his weight is more impressive than ruggs running a 4.27 at his relative size 

And Ruggs has a pretty high RAS score as it is. 

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7 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:
  • FS Jeremy Chinn (10.00)
  • WR Chase Claypool (9.98)
  • LB Isaiah Simmons (9.98)
  • CB C.J. Henderson (9.98)
  • TE Chase Harrell (9.96)
  • SS Tanner Muse (9.95)
  • OT Ezra Cleveland (9.93)
  • LB Kenneth Murray (9.89)
  • OT Mekhi Becton (9.85)
  • WR Kristian Wilkerson (9.81)
  • DT Khalil Davis (9.81)
  • LB Carter Coughlin (9.81)
  • WR Denzel Mims (9.76)
  • EDGE Jabari Zuniga (9.75)

NOTE:  Zuniga was the highest-rated pass rusher by this metric among players who received scores.  The next best was 9.02 (James Smith-Williams, NC State).

 

 

I have two things to say to this:

1.  These guys have something else in common.   Other than Becton, they all were at the Senior Bowl.  That could be the link with Savage or a general philosophy.  It could just be a conincidence, but I doubt it.  Particularly with the lack of extra testing this year, they may be leaning on guys they know from the senior bowl. 

2.  Zuniga was not the best pass rusher.  "TE Chase Harrell (9.96)"  worked out as a DE/EDGE and supposedly looked smooth.  Look for someone to pick him up late and try to develop him into an EDGE while he plays special teams.  

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I don't care what their "RAS" is. Being a good athlete does not mean being a good football player. Look at Gholston. 

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4 minutes ago, PCP63 said:

I don't care what their "RAS" is. Being a good athlete does not mean being a good football player. Look at Gholston. 

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Kristian Wilkerson and Chase Harrell come on down.

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3 minutes ago, PCP63 said:

I don't care what their "RAS" is. Being a good athlete does not mean being a good football player. Look at Gholston. 

Jachai polite had a bunch of sacks in in his final year in college but had a low RAS score.

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7 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

ADDITIONAL NOTE:  FS Ashtyn Davis didn't record enough measurables/workout numbers to receive a score.

...and he’s arguably the most insanely athletic player we drafted!

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13 minutes ago, PCP63 said:

I don't care what their "RAS" is. Being a good athlete does not mean being a good football player. Look at Gholston. 

Actually, Gholston's 3 cone told you all you needed to know.  IMO, Gholston was more college production than athlete.

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I want our team to be stocked with guys who can jump out of pools.

Everyone knows that’s what makes for a great football player

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16 minutes ago, PCP63 said:

I don't care what their "RAS" is. Being a good athlete does not mean being a good football player. Look at Gholston. 

Fair point. I'd be interested in comparing the top RAS scores over the years if that info is available somewhere.

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7 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:
  • FS Jeremy Chinn (10.00)
  • WR Chase Claypool (9.98)
  • LB Isaiah Simmons (9.98)
  • CB C.J. Henderson (9.98)
  • TE Chase Harrell (9.96)
  • SS Tanner Muse (9.95)
  • OT Ezra Cleveland (9.93)
  • LB Kenneth Murray (9.89)
  • OT Mekhi Becton (9.85)
  • WR Kristian Wilkerson (9.81)
  • DT Khalil Davis (9.81)
  • LB Carter Coughlin (9.81)
  • WR Denzel Mims (9.76)
  • EDGE Jabari Zuniga (9.75)

NOTE:  Zuniga was the highest-rated pass rusher by this metric among players who received scores.  The next best was 9.02 (James Smith-Williams, NC State).

 

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ADDITIONAL NOTE:  FS Ashtyn Davis didn't record enough measurables/workout numbers to receive a score.

Weird.

And I honesty didnt know Zuniga was the highest.  Higher than Young? 

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9 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

interesting concept trying to draft athletic players for a pro-football team. let's see how this plays out

jason bateman dodgeball GIF

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8 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Makes me hopeful that Perriman's final 5 games in a Bucs uniform where he exploded was just a sign that he'd finally started to meet his high potential and will pick up where he left off.  

That was my hope...that the lightbulb went on in his head.  Now he has this new chance.  Like he's a 1st round pick again. Reborn!  Designated to start.  Perriman has an opportunity to make his mark...and put his signature on his career.  Make some $$hay too.

We'll see.

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5 minutes ago, JiF said:

Weird.

And I honesty didnt know Zuniga was the highest.  Higher than Young? 

Chase didn't participate in any workouts. Which is understandable, because he didn't need to 

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I just pulled the top 10 RAS scores from the last 10 draft classes

Year Pos Name School ATRAS RAS
2010 WR Joe Webb UAB 10 9.99
2010 OT Jared Veldheer Hillsdale 9.98 10
2010 WR Scott Long Louisville 9.95 9.92
2010 TE Mickey Shuler Penn State 9.94 9.95
2010 FS Taylor Mays Southern California 9.91 9.86
2010 CB Nicholas Poloniato CFL 9.91 9.93
2010 WR Stephen Williams Toledo 9.89 9.83
2010 FS Morgan Burnett Georgia Tech 9.88 9.79
2010 RB Ben Tate Auburn 9.88 9.85
2010 QB Tim Tebow Florida 9.83 9.92
2011 QB Cam Newton Auburn 10 10
2011 TE Jordan Cameron Southern California 9.99 10
2011 LB Von Miller Texas A&M 9.97 9.97
2011 WR Julio Jones Alabama 9.97 9.93
2011 LB Martez Wilson Illinois 9.95 9.93
2011 CB Patrick Peterson Louisiana State 9.94 9.93
2011 QB Blaine Gabbert Missouri 9.92 9.92
2011 OT Nate Solder Colorado 9.9 9.9
2011 RB Anthony Allen Georgia Tech 9.89 9.91
2011 WR Torrey Smith Maryland 9.88 9.85
2012 FB Devin Goda Slippery Rock 10 10
2012 OG Brandon Brooks Miami 10 9.98
2012 LB Luke Kuechly Boston College 9.99 10
2012 DT Markus Kuhn North Carolina State 9.98 9.98
2012 CB Josh Robinson Central Florida 9.97 9.98
2012 LB Bruce Irvin West Virginia 9.96 9.95
2012 RB Ryan McCants Oregon State 9.95 9.91
2012 DT Kendall Reyes Connecticut 9.94 9.9
2012 DT Mike Martin Michigan 9.93 9.91
2012 TE James Hanna Oklahoma 9.93 9.94
2013 DT Lawrence Okoye No College 10 10
2013 LB Paul Worrilow Delaware 9.96 9.94
2013 RB Michael Cox Massachusetts 9.96 9.93
2013 TE Luke Willson Rice 9.95 9.9
2013 FB Kyler Reed Nebraska 9.95 9.96
2013 DE Margus Hunt Southern Methodist 9.94 9.93
2013 OT Lane Johnson Oklahoma 9.94 9.96
2013 WR Sam McGuffie Rice 9.93 9.92
2013 RB Latavius Murray Central Florida 9.9 9.84
2013 LB Jeremiah Green Nevada 9.89 9.87
2014 OT Taylor Lewan Michigan 10 10
2014 WR Jeff Janis Saginaw Valley State 9.96 9.93
2014 WR Cody Latimer Indiana 9.95 9.93
2014 QB Logan Thomas Virginia Tech 9.93 9.94
2014 LB Ryan Shazier Ohio State 9.92 9.88
2014 WR Quincy Enunwa Nebraska 9.86 9.85
2014 RB Jerick McKinnon Georgia Southern 9.85 9.79
2014 CB Bradley Roby Ohio State 9.84 9.84
2014 LB Kevin Pierre-Louis Boston College 9.82 9.76
2014 DE Kareem Martin North Carolina 9.82 9.84
2015 QB Marcus Mariota Oregon 9.96 9.94
2015 OG Kristjan Sokoli Buffalo 9.96 9.97
2015 CB Eric Rowe Utah 9.96 9.97
2015 CB Darryl Roberts Marshall 9.96 9.94
2015 SS Byron Jones Connecticut 9.96 9.92
2015 WR Breshad Perriman Central Florida 9.96 9.95
2015 OT Brian Mihalik Boston College 9.95 9.96
2015 LB Stephone Anthony Clemson 9.94 9.91
2015 WR Tyrell Williams Western Oregon 9.93 9.89
2015 OG Ali Marpet Hobart College 9.93 9.91
2016 WR Moritz Boehringer Germany 9.99 9.98
2016 OG Blake Muir Baylor 9.98 9.97
2016 DT Justin Zimmer Ferris State 9.97 9.99
2016 OC Jake Brendel UCLA 9.94 9.94
2016 FB Dan Vitale Northwestern 9.93 9.89
2016 RB Darius Jackson Eastern Michigan 9.91 9.86
2016 CB Jalen Ramsey Florida State 9.9 9.84
2016 OG Connor McGovern Missouri 9.9 9.85
2016 OG Joe Thuney North Carolina State 9.89 9.84
2016 CB Ian Wells Ohio 9.88 9.88
2017 CB Marshon Lattimore Ohio State 10 10
2017 LS Brian Khoury Carnegie Mellon 10 10
2017 DE Myles Garrett Texas A&M 9.99 9.99
2017 FS Jason Thompson Utah 9.99 9.98
2017 CB Fabian Moreau UCLA 9.99 9.98
2017 CB Kevin King Washington 9.95 9.95
2017 CB Ahkello Witherspoon Colorado 9.93 9.89
2017 LB T.J. Watt Wisconsin 9.92 9.92
2017 QB Zach Conque Stephen F. Austin 9.91 9.9
2017 CB Shaquill Griffin Central Florida 9.9 9.88
2018 LB Lorenzo Carter Georgia 10 10
2018 K Brandon Brown Fort Hays State 10 10
2018 OT Kolton Miller UCLA 9.99 9.99
2018 TE Mike Gesicki Penn State 9.98 9.97
2018 LB Leighton Vander Esch Boise State 9.98 9.98
2018 RB Saquon Barkley Penn State 9.97 9.97
2018 FS Troy Apke Penn State 9.94 9.94
2018 WR D.J. Chark Louisiana State 9.94 9.94
2018 DT Taven Bryan Florida 9.93 9.92
2018 OC Frank Ragnow Arkansas 9.91 9.93
2019 P Mitch Wishnnowsky Utah 10 10
2019 OC Garrett Bradbury North Carolina State 9.96 9.96
2019 DE Rashan Gary Michigan 9.95 9.95
2019 QB Tyree Jackson Buffalo 9.95 9.95
2019 WR Miles Boykin Notre Dame 9.94 9.94
2019 CB Jamel Dean Auburn 9.93 9.93
2019 OG Chasz Wright Penn State 9.92 9.92
2019 DE Brian Burns Florida State 9.9 9.9
2019 DE Montez Sweat Mississippi State 9.9 9.9
2019 LB Quinton Bell Prarie View A&M 9.89 9.89

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45 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

I have two things to say to this:

1.  These guys have something else in common.   Other than Becton, they all were at the Senior Bowl.  That could be the link with Savage or a general philosophy.  It could just be a conincidence, but I doubt it.  Particularly with the lack of extra testing this year, they may be leaning on guys they know from the senior bowl. 

2.  Zuniga was not the best pass rusher.  "TE Chase Harrell (9.96)"  worked out as a DE/EDGE and supposedly looked smooth.  Look for someone to pick him up late and try to develop him into an EDGE while he plays special teams.  

Zuniga had the 2nd highest SPARQ among the edges - https://3sigmaathlete.com/sparq-rankings-2020/edge/

Alton Robinson (who is still available) is 4th among the edges. 

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