Jets UDFA Signings (Jets Only)

[#27TheDominator]

12 hours ago, Warfish said:

Campell kid sounds interesting.  

He kind of reminds me of how I discovered Jeff Smith for the JN mock last year.  I was looking at some pro day numbers and stumbled across Smith with a crazy high RAS.  Very good agility times.  Then when I looked into him more, I found a very high percentage of TDs for the amount of catches.  I figure a guy that athletic should be good on special teams and his run after the catch should be good.  He ended up with the Jets.  Campbell also has a ridiculous number of his catches go for TDs.  He supposedly runs a 4.35, but that is unofficial.  He has good size and has played some special teams.  I'd be happy if either of them ends up deserving some run

[LAD_Brooklyn]

Alabama DB, Shyheim Carter will definitely be one of those guys who'll stick. Javelin Guidry and Lamar Jackson lack versatility. One's exclusively a slot CB, the next best serve specialized in guarding receivers who mirror his size. Don't get me wrong now as both are great signings 

Shyheim Carter on the other hand can play deep safety and cover slot receivers. Is a willing tacklers vs lateral ball carriers but hesitant vs down hill guys.

 

Carter played numerous positions for Alabama, including both the nickel and dime spots called star and money in Nick Saban's scheme. Last season, he tallied 43 tackles, including 2.5 for loss, with one interception and seven pass breakups).

"Shy’s actually played every position for us," the coach said last fall. "He started out here playing corner. We made him star because he was a pretty good star. We’ve had him play money at times and we’ve also had him play safety. 

"I think Shyheim Carter would fit in probably one of the top two or three players on the team from a knowledge standpoint. He can answer every question in a meeting about every position. He would be a great, great coach. I think that’s what creates a lot of diversity for him as a player, to be able to play multiple positions, because he’s very smart and it means something to him."

The sentiment was repeatedly echoed by Carter's former Crimson Tide teammates, including some of the other defensive backs who were selected before him in the draft. 

"I think he’s the smartest defensive back that we have," Xavier McKinney said. "When Shy’s out there, I definitely feel a lot more comfortable, just knowing that he knows everything, he knows all the adjustments. 

"He’s kind of like one of those guys — if I don’t know it then I’m like, ‘OK, let me see if Shy (knows),’ or if I’m not sure then Shy says, ‘OK, this is what we’re playing,’ then that’s what we’re going to play. He’s a true vet."

Carter was actually a quarterback in High School and was named the state's Class 1A Offensive MVP before signing with Alabama. 

He became a regular part of the secondary in 2018, when tallying 44 tackles, including 3.5 for loss, with 10 passes broken up and returned both of his interceptions for touchdowns. 

 

[CTJetsFan]

Cool to see Huff & Javelin Guidry show up on this list of 8 "best kept secrets of the draft"

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2886899-the-best-kept-secrets-of-the-2020-nfl-draft

[mrcoops]

2 hours ago, CTJetsFan said:

Cool to see Huff & Javelin Guidry show up on this list of 8 "best kept secrets of the draft"

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2886899-the-best-kept-secrets-of-the-2020-nfl-draft

Nice article, thanks. Lots of guys I liked on there, especially Quez Watkins - still annoyed that we couldn't find a way to land him in the 6th.

[PepPep]

4 hours ago, CTJetsFan said:

Cool to see Huff & Javelin Guidry show up on this list of 8 "best kept secrets of the draft"

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2886899-the-best-kept-secrets-of-the-2020-nfl-draft

I LOVE Huff. I think he makes the roster and turns heads this season much like Kyle Phillips did. The combination of Huff and Zuniga along with that D-line and infusion of talent in the secondary will create a ton of pressure on the QB. 

Jets defense is looking good barring injuries. 

[Beerfish]

I am very much looking forward to camp whenever that happens.  Should be some good battles.  I like the look of our UDFA crop and more than one or two could press for a spot.

[Dcat]

DraftFix: Reviewing the Jets' round eight haul

28 APRIL 2020

Let's take a brief look at each of the undrafted free agents that the Jets have been rumored to have agreed to terms with.

We will, of course, be breaking each of these down in detail over the next few months, but - for now - we'll share a quick synopsis of each player along with the one player they may need to beat out to earn a roster spot.

Utah CB Javelin Guidry

Guidry made a name for himself at the scouting combine when he ran a sub-4.3 in the 40-yard dash and posted more than 20 reps in the bench press, making him the first player in combine history to to both.

Despite these numbers, Guidry lacks size and played most of his career at the slot cornerback position. His coverage numbers were okay, although he never had more than one interception in any season, and he generated some production against the run and on special teams.

Main roster competiton: Arthur Maulet

Nebraska CB Lamar Jackson

Matt Miller called Jackson his biggest sleeper at the cornerback position after a senior year that saw him rack up career marks in tackles (40), tackles for loss (4.5), interceptions (three) and passes defensed (12).

Jackson has excellent size and length but posted disappointing numbers for speed and strength at the combine. His explosiveness numbers were above average though.

Jackson played almost exclusively on the outside throughout his four seasons with the Cornhuskers.

Main roster competition: Kyron Brown

Memphis LB Bryce Huff

Huff flew under the radar heading into the draft, despite racking up 18 sacks over the past three seasons, including 9.5 in 2018 which was good for third in the AAC. Huff's pressure rates also improved dramatically each year.

He played more as an outside linebacker until 2019, when he moved into more of a defensive end role. He's been solid against the run in both roles.

If Huff can show potential as a pass rusher in preseason, perhaps he can push another young edge defender off the roster.

Main roster competition: Frankie Luvu

Georgia WR Lawrence Cager

The 6'5" Cager was invited to the scouting combine but did not work out due to an ankle injury. He also missed the entire 2016 season with a knee injury.

Having been recruited as a tight end for the Miami Hurricanes, Cager moved to wide receiver and played three years with them before transferring to Georgia. He was having his best year with 33 catches for 476 yards in eight games before the injury. That included a seven catch, 132-yard effort against the Florida Gators.

Main roster competition: Vyncint Smith

Washington OT Jared Hilbers

Hilbers was obviously a priority for the Jets because they reportedly gave him $62,000 in guaranteed money. That's similar to what you'd typically get as a seventh round pick. He was 212th on PFF's big board.

Despite being 6'6", Hilbers has short arms so would need to move inside at the NFL level. He's more of a technician than an athlete, but can be inconsistent with his hand placement.

Main roster competition: Cameron Clark

West Virginia WR George Campbell

Campbell transferred to West Virginia after being granted a sixth year of eligibility and entered that final season having made just 13 career catches at FSU.

In that final year, he established himself as a big play threat with six receptions of at least 25 yards and the first seven touchdowns of his career. However, he only had 19 catches overall.

His true value may lie on special teams, where he showcased some good speed at 6'4". At West Virginia, he started on four units - punt return, kick return, punt coverage and kick coverage - making a name for himself with his kick coverage abilities on kickoffs and as a punt gunner. However, he also contributed as a blocker on the kick return unit and rushing punts.

Main roster competition: Trenton Cannnon

Alabama DB Shyheim Carter

Carter was a player who had draftable grades from many sources. PFF had him 209th on their big board, for example. He had good coverage numbers over the past few years and was productive against the run.

Carter, who has average size and athleticism, played most of his reps as a slot cornerback throughout his career, although he was listed as a safety in some places. Matt Miller had him ranked 14th, ahead of Jeremy Chinn, who went in the second round.

Main roster competition: Bennett Jackson

Coastal Carolina DT Sterling Johnson

Johnson was a reserve at Clemson for three years before transferring to Coastal Carolina for the past two seasons. In his senior year, Johnson moved from defensive tackle to nose tackle and performed well against the run while also ramping up his pressure numbers and recording a career-high 3.5 sacks, earning all Sun Belt Conference third-team honors.

Johnson is listed at 285 pounds in some places and 300 in others, but probably needs to bulk up even more to play nose tackle at the next level.

Main roster competition: Folorunso Fatukasi

UNC-Pembroke DL Domenique Davis

Davis was the only one of the 17 rookies the Jets were reported to have picked up this weekend not to play Division One football. In fact, the 315-pounder initially joined UNC-Pembroke as a walk-on.

In his three seasons there, Davis lined up as a 4-3 defensive tackle. Overall, he racked up 122 tackles, 15 tackles for loss and six sacks. You'd have to imagine he's more of a long-term project that could try to earn a practice squad role.

Main roster competition: Nathan Shepherd

Once these deals are finalized, the Jets are going to have to make a handful of cuts because they will push them over the 90-man roster limit. We'll keep an eye out for those moves in the weeks to come.

[section314]

6 hours ago, Dcat said:

 

Alabama DB Shyheim Carter

Carter was a player who had draftable grades from many sources. PFF had him 209th on their big board, for example. He had good coverage numbers over the past few years and was productive against the run.

Carter, who has average size and athleticism, played most of his reps as a slot cornerback throughout his career, although he was listed as a safety in some places. Matt Miller had him ranked 14th, ahead of Jeremy Chinn, who went in the second round.

 

More proof for the many on this site who list Matt Miller as the most uninformed and biggest idiot in the business.

[Scoop24]

6 hours ago, section314 said:

More proof for the many on this site who list Matt Miller as the most uninformed and biggest idiot in the business.

Chinn was 4th on Matt Millers big board and Carter was 23rd

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2887115?share=other

[Prez33]

I don’t know if this has been said yet (I can’t go over five pages of thread), but WR Lawrence Cager looks like a keeper. After watching his video, I’m asking myself “how come this guy didn’t get drafted?”  
 

Looks like a big possession receiver who thrives in the red zone. I’ll take those guys all day long. 

[BROOKLYN JET]

On 4/27/2020 at 10:45 AM, Warfish said:

Campell kid sounds interesting.  

 

[Sammybighead]

Did we actually sign Bryce huff? Tony Pauline best available UDFAs list still has him available. Am I missing something?

[Sarge4Tide]

1 hour ago, Sammybighead said:

Did we actually sign Bryce huff? Tony Pauline best available UDFAs list still has him available. Am I missing something?

 

[Lith]

4 hours ago, Sammybighead said:

Did we actually sign Bryce huff? Tony Pauline best available UDFAs list still has him available. Am I missing something?

I think a lot of these guys are verbal agreements.  Not sure how many of them have actually signed contracts.  Every year it seems you hear of a couple of guys around the league who reach verbal agreement with one team, then change their mind and sign elsewhere.  So technically some of them may still be available. 

[Dcat]

yeah..  it's like a flea market with UDFA.  

(memories of Roosevelt Field flea market.)

[32EBoozer]

3 hours ago, Lith said:

I think a lot of these guys are verbal agreements.  Not sure how many of them have actually signed contracts.  Every year it seems you hear of a couple of guys around the league who reach verbal agreement with one team, then change their mind and sign elsewhere.  So technically some of them may still be available. 

Huff is one guy I would fly down and have a check in hand and a contract. A lot of these teams realize the shortcomings of their draft and are willing to throw some xtra cash at to steal guys away. Not a good look for their agent if they screw a team over.

[JetBlue]

On 4/27/2020 at 7:20 PM, Beerfish said:

I like Mims but it was a grave error not going Wr later in the draft with the talent that dropped.   They really needed to double dip on Wr this draft.

I like Cager and Campbell as UDFA but I am hoping taking Morgan and passing on AGG doesn't come back to haunt us.   He went to the Redskins and I think he is going to be Haskins go to target.  

[jetfan61]

2 hours ago, JetBlue said:

I like Cager and Campbell as UDFA but I am hoping taking Morgan and passing on AGG doesn't come back to haunt us.   He went to the Redskins and I think he is going to be Haskins go to target.  

If we used the second 6th round pick on Cager or Campbell instead of trading it, I think a lot of people would have felt better. I think the depth at WR dropped a few good prospects to UDFA...  we're going to be ok. 

[Wonderboy]

On 4/27/2020 at 7:20 PM, Beerfish said:

I like Mims but it was a grave error not going Wr later in the draft with the talent that dropped.   They really needed to double dip on Wr this draft.

Yea its baffling. Only thing I can think of is JD is really high on Perriman and Doctson.  Maybe he's seen enough to feel he's set.  Perri, Mims, Doctson, Crowder, Barrios.  Not sure how many WR's we going to carry but that's 5 right there.  

[Dcat]

6 hours ago, Wonderboy said:

Yea its baffling. Only thing I can think of is JD is really high on Perriman and Doctson.  Maybe he's seen enough to feel he's set.  Perri, Mims, Doctson, Crowder, Barrios.  Not sure how many WR's we going to carry but that's 5 right there.  

Do not discount Cager or Campbell.  That is all.  

[32EBoozer]

22 hours ago, Sarge4Tide said:

 

This makes me feel a little better about our actually having Huff as a part of our team. Sometimes you hear certain UDFA have agreed to terms but get better offers and go to other teams. I really like this guys film and expect him to do well for us as a DPR. I hope GW is on the phone with him selling his defense and what Huff can expect.

[Dcat]

1 hour ago, 32EBoozer said:

This makes me feel a little better about our actually having Huff as a part of our team. Sometimes you hear certain UDFA have agreed to terms but get better offers and go to other teams. I really like this guys film and expect him to do well for us as a DPR. I hope GW is on the phone with him selling his defense and what Huff can expect.

Interview with Bryce Huff begins at 30:30

https://losfreys.podiant.co/e/episode-5-memphis-tiger-king-386d967428eaa0/

Said he spoke to 29 teams leading up to the draft (form position coaches, toHCs and GMs etc).  After he didn't get the call during the draft,  Greg Williams called him for UDFA.  He chose Jets because he had a good chance to make the team and he would be "going somewhere where somebody actually had a plan for him to make an impact".  

[Prez33]

Between Huff and Zuniga, someone needs to take the reins.  This defense can take a major step forward with an edge rusher. And it’ll benefit Q, too. 

[32EBoozer]

42 minutes ago, Dcat said:

Interview with Bryce Huff begins at 30:30

https://losfreys.podiant.co/e/episode-5-memphis-tiger-king-386d967428eaa0/

Said he spoke to 29 teams leading up to the draft (form position coaches, toHCs and GMs etc).  After he didn't get the call during the draft,  Greg Williams called him for UDFA.  He chose Jets because he had a good chance to make the team and he would be "going somewhere where somebody actually had a plan for him to make an impact".  

Thanks for the therapy Dcat. I’m really counting on him to be a difference maker. Having him, Zuniga and Luuvu gives me a warm feeling that at least one of these 3 can play outside edge and bring some pressure. Especially if QW, Fuutula and Shepherd come to camp ready to push the pocket. Can’t wait for the season to start. 

[Lith]

Looks like all the UDFA signings are official now.  Announced by the team:

 

[mrcoops]

31 minutes ago, Lith said:

Looks like all the UDFA signings are official now.  Announced by the team:

 

Really strong group. Looking forward to seeing what they can do.

[Jetsfan80]

38 minutes ago, mrcoops said:

Really strong group. Looking forward to seeing what they can do.

All with elite measurables and/or size too from the looks of it.  Wish I could find some numbers on Bryce Huff.  

 

First Last POS HT WT 40 SH PB VJ Rating
Shyheim Carter DB 5-10.0 176 4.42 4.13 38 33.1 113.97

 

 

 

[RobR]

2 hours ago, Lith said:

Looks like all the UDFA signings are official now.  Announced by the team:

 

That's is an impressive list although I thought they would bring in a few more players. Looks like JD is going quality over quantity.

[#27TheDominator]

2 minutes ago, RobR said:

That's is an impressive list although I thought they would bring in a few more players. Looks like JD is going quality over quantity.

I think they'd have to manipulate the roster.  They probably had to move Enunwa and Bellamy to bring these guys on.  They also had to cut Keon Hatcher, Kyron Brown, Charles Tapper and Jalin Moore.  They probably like the guys they have better than the UDFA. It seems like a pretty strong group.

[RobR]

18 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

I think they'd have to manipulate the roster.  They probably had to move Enunwa and Bellamy to bring these guys on.  They also had to cut Keon Hatcher, Kyron Brown, Charles Tapper and Jalin Moore.  They probably like the guys they have better than the UDFA. It seems like a pretty strong group.

They could have brought in more players from the get go because these guys don't count towards the 90 man until training camp starts. I posted about it earlier in another thread.

I was expecting at least a dozen although I'm very happy with the guys they brought in. JD is still looking for elite athletes even after the draft ended.

EDIT: I think I'm 100% wrong on the 90 man roster limits and dates. So much conflicting info out there and a lot of these searches are from years ago.  

[#27TheDominator]

19 minutes ago, RobR said:

They could have brought in more players from the get go because these guys don't count towards the 90 man until training camp starts. I posted about it earlier in another thread.

Really?  I thought it was the "off-season" roster limit. 

[RobR]

1 minute ago, #27TheDominator said:

Really?  I thought it was the "off-season" roster limit. 

I edited my post above. During the UDFA period I read an article that stated it doesn't matter how high your roster got, just as long as it was at 90 when training camp started. After reading a bit more I'm not sure if that is true. A new CBA doesn't help the matter when it comes to clarification.

[#27TheDominator]

1 hour ago, RobR said:

I edited my post above. During the UDFA period I read an article that stated it doesn't matter how high your roster got, just as long as it was at 90 when training camp started. After reading a bit more I'm not sure if that is true. A new CBA doesn't help the matter when it comes to clarification.

I liked this post because I appreciate the reply, but in reality I dont like it!  No clarification. i tend to think they had to keep the 90 because otherwise there was no reason to cut those guys.  It isnt like they all were arrested or something

[jetsons]

On 5/6/2020 at 6:53 PM, Jetsfan80 said:

All with elite measurables and/or size too from the looks of it.  Wish I could find some numbers on Bryce Huff.  

 

First Last POS HT WT 40 SH PB VJ Rating
Shyheim Carter DB 5-10.0 176 4.42 4.13 38 33.1 113.97

 

 

 

I guess you didn't look at Jackson ?

[jetsons]

Hope they All do Well & stick.