Smizzy Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Pennington,Coles,Fabini,Mawae & Martin all being asked to restructure.... Law out....Abe wants out. Big day. THoughts? Im thrilled by the job Mangini has done so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Pennington,Coles,Fabini,Mawae & Martin all being asked to restructure.... Law out....Abe wants out. Big day. THoughts? Im thrilled by the job Mangini has done so far. Love it. Restructure to your current value, now & for the future, or go away. No one player is above the team. We had a playoff run with a shot at a title & so these high-priced veterans were either brought in or re-signed. That window is closed & therefore so is the need for their cap-breaking contracts. Time to rebuild & you don't do that with has-been's & almost-were's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gg Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 there's a great big beautiful tomorrow shinin' at the end of ev'ry day there's a great big beautiful tomorrow and tomorrow's just a dream away man has a dream and that's the start he follows his dream with mind and heart and when it becomes a reality it's a dream come true for you and me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 To be honest, I think more of the credit for this type of news goes to Tannenbaum...he's still the money man and these news quips are about money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHJF Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Love it. Restructure to your current value, now & for the future, or go away. No one player is above the team. We had a playoff run with a shot at a title & so these high-priced veterans were either brought in or re-signed. That window is closed & therefore so is the need for their cap-breaking contracts. Time to rebuild & you don't do that with has-been's & almost-were's. I agree, Sperman. '06 is going to be a train wreck no matter how you look at it. Gut the thing from the core and build it the way you want it. Right or wrong, Mangini's showing everyone that this is his team now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baamf Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Pennington,Coles,Fabini,Mawae & Martin all being asked to restructure.... Law out....Abe wants out. Big day. THoughts? Im thrilled by the job Mangini has done so far. Actually, are these all facts? The only things I can ascertain as certain are Pennington and Law whose agents have both been quoted. The rest are all just speculations as far as I can tell coming from "sources with knowledge of the teams thinking". This new cloak of secrecy is tough on fans...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 My thoughts are that these are just words and nothing has happened yet. Once things actually happen then it will get interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Pennington,Coles,Fabini,Mawae & Martin all being asked to restructure.... Law out....Abe wants out. Big day. THoughts? Im thrilled by the job Mangini has done so far. how many of them do you think actually restructure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Actually, are these all facts? The only things I can ascertain as certain are Pennington and Law whose agents have both been quoted. The rest are all just speculations as far as I can tell coming from "sources with knowledge of the teams thinking". This new cloak of secrecy is tough on fans...... If Hempstead is locked down the leaks must be coming from them or their agents. It will be intresting to see if Coles will want to be here now that Herm and possibly Pennington will not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ EcKo151 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 how many of them do you think actually restructure? Coles, Mawae and maybe Fabini... Penny and Martin I think will take pay-cuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted February 15, 2006 Author Share Posted February 15, 2006 how many of them do you think actually restructure? If they're being asked to restructure then chances are it's not gonna be good for them if they don't. None of the guys listed are guys we can't live without. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 If they're being asked to restructure then chances are it's not gonna be good for them if they don't. None of the guys listed are guys we can't live without. except maybe coles....i agree with you on what youve said early about cotchery breaking out next year....but still...him and jmac are not exactly what id call a great wide out tandem then again i suppose if we're going to completely blow it up(basically), might as well revamp everything...that your thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted February 15, 2006 Author Share Posted February 15, 2006 except maybe coles....i agree with you on what youve said early about cotchery breaking out next year....but still...him and jmac are not exactly what id call a great wide out tandem then again i suppose if we're going to completely blow it up(basically), might as well revamp everything...that your thinking? Yes. Coles has value and Id love to keep him. but not at his current numbers. Coles is the 1 guy on that list ,I don't wanna lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Pennington,Coles,Fabini,Mawae & Martin all being asked to restructure.... Law out....Abe wants out. Big day. THoughts? Im thrilled by the job Mangini has done so far. Aside from Law out I love it Smizz. I know Law can't be brought back unless he restructures and he won't so yeah bye bye Ty. Aside from that it's a great day in Jet land.....(and wait Smizz the Ty cut hasn't been made official just yet;) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 how many of them do you think actually restructure? u know what vilma,, i almost dont care,,,what it tells me is that in the future we wont be makin the stupid mistakes of the past regime,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hasty Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Coles contract is just fine as it is. They should leave it alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 any word on what we might be getting for abe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 If they're being asked to restructure then chances are it's not gonna be good for them if they don't. None of the guys listed are guys we can't live without. I don't know Smizz...I don't think we can go on with Coles and have a WR core of McCareins and Cotchery and....yeah nobody else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I don't know Smizz...I don't think we can go on with Coles and have a WR core of McCareins and Cotchery and....yeah nobody else. We have two 4th rounders. Grab Lee or Bergeron there. But to have McCariens start the season as the #1 receiver is scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 We are over the CAP and these things were going to have to happen Mangini or no Mangini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjets Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 It will be intresting to see if Coles will want to be here now that Herm and possibly Pennington will not? i dont think he'd mind a new QB.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Yes. Coles has value and Id love to keep him. but not at his current numbers. Coles is the 1 guy on that list ,I don't wanna lose. Maybe we could trade him to the Redskins for Santana Moss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted February 15, 2006 Author Share Posted February 15, 2006 I don't know Smizz...I don't think we can go on with Coles and have a WR core of McCareins and Cotchery and....yeah nobody else. I like Coles...but without a viable QB ...he's almost useless. We have too many things to fix to worry about any 1 player. Or thats how I see it right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 i dont think he'd mind a new QB.. you seem to forget the whole reason we traded moss for coles was b/c of his and chad's chemistry..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyedea40 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 These are what we call the "rebuilding years" IMO with them asking Chadwick to restructure his contract is a sign that there looking to spend big money on a top draft pick. I hope the jets take a qb , I don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 you seem to forget the whole reason we traded moss for coles was b/c of his and chad's chemistry..... AVM as usual lately is right on the mark here. If Chad is cut or unable to come back and perform then the re-aquistion of Coles almost looks completely stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 AVM as usual lately is right on the mark here. If Chad is cut or unable to come back and perform then the re-aquistion of Coles almost looks completely stupid. We forget how soft Moss was in 2004 and how shocked Heimer was in seeing that on video. That was part of the reason for the trade. Nobody questioned that trade. Kudos to Joe Gibbs for putting a foot in Santana's butt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 AVM as usual lately is right on the mark here. If Chad is cut or unable to come back and perform then the re-aquistion of Coles almost looks completely stupid. Only if you don't believe in the vialbility of the passing game in the NFL. Sadly, he is the only proven offensive threat on the current roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Only if you don't believe in the vialbility of the passing game in the NFL. Sadly, he is the only proven offensive threat on the current roster. Coles didn't do so great in Washington. He does great with Chad....without Chad he had 1 good season in which he was wrongfully voted to the Pro Bowl. Coles is one of my favorite players and I like him a lot but the main reason for bringing him here was because Santana didn't fit into our offense and the Coles-Chad relationship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetheelz Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I think Santana could fit into any offense....he reminds me alot of Steve Smith. A short, but very fast and dangerous receiver. The problem I think with Santana was he wasn't disciplined enough to be the type of playmaker he was last season with Washington. Chalk that up to the coaching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baamf Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Coles didn't do so great in Washington. He does great with Chad....without Chad he had 1 good season in which he was wrongfully voted to the Pro Bowl. Coles is one of my favorite players and I like him a lot but the main reason for bringing him here was because Santana didn't fit into our offense and the Coles-Chad relationship.I think Coles played very well in Washington; he had 1204 and 950 yards, and a probowl appearance. I agree with Biggs he is probably the only real weapon we have at this point, and there are even question marks with him.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I think Santana could fit into any offense....he reminds me alot of Steve Smith. A short, but very fast and dangerous receiver. The problem I think with Santana was he wasn't disciplined enough to be the type of playmaker he was last season with Washington. Chalk that up to the coaching staff. Santana wasn't disiplined here either and he doesn't have a great will to be the best out there like Smith does. Now that Gibbs put a foot in his ass he actually performed and stayed away from the sidelines. Herm was a big fault I'd say for Santana's performance in 04. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetheelz Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Santana wasn't disiplined here either and he doesn't have a great will to be the best out there like Smith does. Now that Gibbs put a foot in his ass he actually performed and stayed away from the sidelines. Herm was a big fault I'd say for Santana's performance in 04. Thats exactly what I said!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Thats exactly what I said!! Steve, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetheelz Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 The problem I think with Santana was he wasn't disciplined enough to be the type of playmaker he was last season with Washington. Chalk that up to the coaching staff. Any questions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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