Jet Nut Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 27 minutes ago, 14 in Green said: Be better than this. You made me stop reading after the first sentence. You've never once heard me say I "hate" Darnold… or any other player. I've made it a point to mention several times there isn't a single player in ANY sport, on ANY team that I hate. I have too much respect for the talent these guys have, and the work it took them to get where they are. Don't take the fact that I've not been as impressed with Darnold as you and a lot of others here, and use it as a license to put words like that in my mouth. Then read your posts before you hit submit. They scream "I dont like/hate Darnold" You don't actually have to say it in those words. Just my observation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 I didn’t read the thread, has anybody said “na-uh” to OP yet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 I get this feeling that Pats may give Cam a try... as for the list of players... we made some improvement... our RBs are slow... our LBs are slow... the most explosive DL is a rookie. we'll see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 3 hours ago, RevisIsland610 said: Miami is a work in progress just like us and they have a rookie QB. their backup is still better than what Sam has shown so far 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romanese Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Silly original post. If you are trying to look objective, try not to be so obviously biased. Instead, just start: As a Bills fan.....blah, blah, blah.... Let's revisit again at your rankings: QB: Jets (by a substantial amount), Bills, Pats?, Phins? (last two will be lunch!). TE: Jets (by a mile), Bills, Pats, Phins WR: Bills (by a mile), Jets, Phins, Pats (This is the Bills largest edge) RB: Bills, Jets, Phins, Pats (Top 3 almost even now that Nell has an Oline) OLine: Crap shoot, but I have it Pats, Bills, Jets, Phins But the Defensive, oh our defense--will be sick: LBs: Jets, Bills, Pats, Phins (Jets by a mile) DLine: Bills, Jets (close behind; better in the run game), Pats, and Phins CB: Bills, Pats, Phins, Jets (let's wait and see here??) Safeties: Jets (by a mile), Pats, Bills, Phins. Overall D Jets, Bills (very close behind), Pats, Phins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 4 hours ago, JetFan20 said: Look at the depth charts of New England, Miami, and Buffalo and rank the units (ignore QB for now). Adam Gase seems like a nice guy with a great family, but he is toast. The only hope the Jets have in this division over the next few years is if Darnold plays significantly better than Allen, Stidham/Pats QB, and Tua. My offensive rankings (Pretty big gap on paper between Bills/Pats and Jets/Dolphins because of Oline) 1) Bills 2) Pats 3) Dolphins 4) Jets Defensive rankings (All defenses look pretty good-not going to be easy for Sam) 1) Bills 2) Pats 3) Dolphins 4) Jets RB: 1) Bills (Singletary/Moss) 2) Pats (Michel/White) 3) Dolphins (Howard/Brieda) 4) Jets (Bell/Perine) OL: 1) Pats (Wynn, Thuney, Andrews, Mason, Cannon) 2) Bills (Dawkins, Spain, Morse, Felciano, Ford) 3) Jets (Becton/Fant,Edoga, Lewis, McGovern, GVR/Winters, Becton/Fant/Edoga) 4) Dolphins (Davenport/Jackson, Flowers, Karras, Calhoun/Hunt, Davis/Hunt WR & TE (Weapons) 1) Bills (Diggs, Brown, Beasley, Knox) 2) Pats (Edelman, Sanu, Harry/Lee, Asaisi/Keene) 3) Dolphins (Parker, Williams, Wilson, Gesicki) 4) Jets (Crowder, Perriman, Mims/scrap heap guys, Herndon/Griffin) IDL: 1) Jets (McClendon, Williams, Fautukasi, Shepard, Anderson) 2) Bills (Lotululei, Oliver, Butler, Jefferson, Taylor/Phillips) 3) Dolphins (Godchaux, Raekwon Davis, Wilkins, Moss, Charlton) 4) Pats (Guy, Allen, Simon, Butler, Wise Jr, Thurman) Edge Rush 1) Dolphins (Van Noy, Lawson, Ogbah, Harris/Weaver) 2) Bills (Addioson, Hughes, Epenesa, Murphy) 3) Pats (Winovich, Bower, Uche, Copeland, Rivers/Calhoun) 4) Jets (Jenkins, Basham, Luvu, Zuniga) Safety 1) Jets (Adams, Maye, Davis) 2) Pats (McCourtey, Duggar, Chung) 3) Bills (Poyer, Hyde, Johnson/Marlowe) 4) Dolphins (Colbert, Rowe, Brandon Jones) ILB (I’d expect Avery to be cut) 1) Bills (Edmunds, Milano, Klein,) 2) Pats (Hightower, Bentley, Jennings) 3) Jets (Mosley, Hewitt, Burgess/Cashman) 4) Dolphins (Biegel, Baker, Raekwon McMillan) Cornerback 1A: Dolphins (Jones, Howard, Igbinoghene) 1B: Bills (White, Wallace, Norman) 1C: Pats (Gilmore, McCourtey, Jones) 4) Jets (Desir, Austin/List of scap heap guys, Poole) Time to go back to the Bills board, bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 The only thing we know for sure is that this is the dumbest comment in the AFC East so far this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 No. Jet's have a far more effective roster now because they completely rebuilt their offensive line. Whether they lose to another team in the division remains to be seen. Any Guven Sunday baby! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 3 hours ago, roscoeword said: Miami has 2 great receivers, that's what I know. Fitz was throwing them ally oops every play and they were coming down with them. They are beasts. He remains the only Jet QB ever who knew how to throw back shoulder ... it's a timing and ball placement thing... and when he's on his slant is good too... remember Decker's 2015? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 4 hours ago, JetFan20 said: Look at the depth charts of New England, Miami, and Buffalo and rank the units (ignore QB for now). Adam Gase seems like a nice guy with a great family, but he is toast. The only hope the Jets have in this division over the next few years is if Darnold plays significantly better than Allen, Stidham/Pats QB, and Tua. My offensive rankings (Pretty big gap on paper between Bills/Pats and Jets/Dolphins because of Oline) 1) Bills 2) Pats 3) Dolphins 4) Jets Defensive rankings (All defenses look pretty good-not going to be easy for Sam) 1) Bills 2) Pats 3) Dolphins 4) Jets RB: 1) Bills (Singletary/Moss) 2) Pats (Michel/White) 3) Dolphins (Howard/Brieda) 4) Jets (Bell/Perine) OL: 1) Pats (Wynn, Thuney, Andrews, Mason, Cannon) 2) Bills (Dawkins, Spain, Morse, Felciano, Ford) 3) Jets (Becton/Fant,Edoga, Lewis, McGovern, GVR/Winters, Becton/Fant/Edoga) 4) Dolphins (Davenport/Jackson, Flowers, Karras, Calhoun/Hunt, Davis/Hunt WR & TE (Weapons) 1) Bills (Diggs, Brown, Beasley, Knox) 2) Pats (Edelman, Sanu, Harry/Lee, Asaisi/Keene) 3) Dolphins (Parker, Williams, Wilson, Gesicki) 4) Jets (Crowder, Perriman, Mims/scrap heap guys, Herndon/Griffin) IDL: 1) Jets (McClendon, Williams, Fautukasi, Shepard, Anderson) 2) Bills (Lotululei, Oliver, Butler, Jefferson, Taylor/Phillips) 3) Dolphins (Godchaux, Raekwon Davis, Wilkins, Moss, Charlton) 4) Pats (Guy, Allen, Simon, Butler, Wise Jr, Thurman) Edge Rush 1) Dolphins (Van Noy, Lawson, Ogbah, Harris/Weaver) 2) Bills (Addioson, Hughes, Epenesa, Murphy) 3) Pats (Winovich, Bower, Uche, Copeland, Rivers/Calhoun) 4) Jets (Jenkins, Basham, Luvu, Zuniga) Safety 1) Jets (Adams, Maye, Davis) 2) Pats (McCourtey, Duggar, Chung) 3) Bills (Poyer, Hyde, Johnson/Marlowe) 4) Dolphins (Colbert, Rowe, Brandon Jones) ILB (I’d expect Avery to be cut) 1) Bills (Edmunds, Milano, Klein,) 2) Pats (Hightower, Bentley, Jennings) 3) Jets (Mosley, Hewitt, Burgess/Cashman) 4) Dolphins (Biegel, Baker, Raekwon McMillan) Cornerback 1A: Dolphins (Jones, Howard, Igbinoghene) 1B: Bills (White, Wallace, Norman) 1C: Pats (Gilmore, McCourtey, Jones) 4) Jets (Desir, Austin/List of scap heap guys, Poole) Cool. That's why they play the games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 23 minutes ago, Long Island Leprechaun said: There was a young Bill from Buffalo Who fancied himself a gigolo. But when he propositioned a chick And showed her his (d**k) She saw he was a lady not a fellow. Lol then how did he show her his richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, JetPotato said: The only thing we know for sure is that this is the dumbest comment in the AFC East so far this year. Give it 24 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 this is so far off and inaccurate im not dignifying a large spelled out answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamat711 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 3 hours ago, SAR I said: We had the Bills beaten in Week 1, Darnold almost died and Mosley was lost for the season, we still had them cornered until late in the game. Dolphins and Bengals games were on Sam as he was trying to make it back from injury. Both were winless at the time. The December Jets wipe the floor with those two teams. SAR I The Jets lost to the Bengals in December. They also played the Dolphins in December and won by 1 point, so no you did not wipe the floor with them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Just now, Sonny Werblin said: That is generally how life works. Are you a jet fan? Cause it feel like you’d be happy to see Sam fail. You guys really get bruised feelings when someone dares to not join in the love fest for the kid, huh? Is it really such a crime to say you haven't been impressed by what you've seen so far? Since you brought up life in general, that's something you can do with someone, and yet still root for him to succeed. Apparently if you do it here you're a: Bills fan Giants fan a troll or you just "hate Darnold" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamat711 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 3 hours ago, kdels62 said: The only unit the Jets have that is worst in the division is: Cornerback. Last year you could say OL but there’s too much unknown with the Dolphins and Jets after this off season to say they’re the worst. Plus if they end up slightly above average they’re better than Buffalo’s OL. The division is up for grabs. If Sam stays healthy and the OL gels fast enough we’re gonna win it. They also have the worst WRs. Edelman is better than anyone on the Jets, Sanu equal to Crowder and N'Keal > Mims until proven otherwise. Quincy even if healthy, isn't enough to change this. Parker is better than anyone on the Jets, Preston Williams is a stud and Albert Wilson make a good WR group. Bills are just better. Also it's highly unlikely the Jets O-line will be better than the Bills. The Bills still have a better LG, C, RG, and RT. The Bills LT is also very good. The Jets O-line is still a weakness but it is improved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Il Mostro said: We may as well just forfeit the season. Why waste energy when we are clearly the worst? That would just be crazy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, hamat711 said: They also have the worst WRs. Edelman is better than anyone on the Jets, Sanu equal to Crowder and N'Keal > Mims until proven otherwise. Quincy even if healthy, isn't enough to change this. Parker is better than anyone on the Jets, Preston Williams is a stud and Albert Wilson make a good WR group. Bills are just better. Also it's highly unlikely the Jets O-line will be better than the Bills. The Bills still have a better LG, C, RG, and RT. The Bills LT is also very good. The Jets O-line is still a weakness but it is improved. Is this Edelman with steroids and getting away with pushing off DBs every play? Then yes. Otherwise no I like Sanu. He’s a Rutgers Alum. That said he’s an ok possession receiver and not much more he and crowder are the same thing N’Keal over Mims? That’s cute Oh and Stidham and Hoyer both gargle balls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, hamat711 said: They also have the worst WRs. Edelman is better than anyone on the Jets, Sanu equal to Crowder and N'Keal > Mims until proven otherwise. Quincy even if healthy, isn't enough to change this. Parker is better than anyone on the Jets, Preston Williams is a stud and Albert Wilson make a good WR group. Bills are just better. Also it's highly unlikely the Jets O-line will be better than the Bills. The Bills still have a better LG, C, RG, and RT. The Bills LT is also very good. The Jets O-line is still a weakness but it is improved. Edelman is nice but him and Sanu don’t gel because they work the same area. N’keal Harry isn’t even Breshad Perriman. Heck Perriman was better in 4 games than Sanu was last year. I don’t think there’s much difference between the two WR corps but the Jets have more upside and a better QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, 14 in Green said: You guys really get bruised feelings when someone dares to not join in the love fest for the kid, huh? Is it really such a crime to say you haven't been impressed by what you've seen so far? Since you brought up life in general, that's something you can do with someone, and yet still root for him to succeed. Apparently if you do it here you're a: Bills fan Giants fan a troll or you just "hate Darnold" Just as long as your rooting for his success 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Wang Doodle Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, 14 in Green said: You guys really get bruised feelings when someone dares to not join in the love fest for the kid, huh? Is it really such a crime to say you haven't been impressed by what you've seen so far? Since you brought up life in general, that's something you can do with someone, and yet still root for him to succeed. Apparently if you do it here you're a: Bills fan Giants fan a troll or you just "hate Darnold" Probably because you suck off Baker and Allen routinely, while constantly talking down of Darnold - the qb of the team you (allegedly) route for? You can just say you don't like Darnold. There's nothing wrong with that. Might as well call a spade a spade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Just now, Daddy Wang Doodle said: Probably because you suck off Baker and Allen routinely, while constantly talking down of Darnold - the qb of the team you (allegedly) route for? You can just say you don't like Darnold. There's nothing wrong with that. Might as well call a spade a spade Would that make you feel better? You know, all warm and fuzzy inside? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil O Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, hamat711 said: They also have the worst WRs. Edelman is better than anyone on the Jets, Sanu equal to Crowder and N'Keal > Mims until proven otherwise. Quincy even if healthy, isn't enough to change this. Parker is better than anyone on the Jets, Preston Williams is a stud and Albert Wilson make a good WR group. Bills are just better. Also it's highly unlikely the Jets O-line will be better than the Bills. The Bills still have a better LG, C, RG, and RT. The Bills LT is also very good. The Jets O-line is still a weakness but it is improved. Crowder is 33 receptions, 300 yards receiving, 2+ yards per/rec, and 4 TDs BETTER than Sanu...crowder>Sanu...plus 5 years younger. Plenty of time to get even better. And that is with Brady as Sanu’s QB. He literally had the So called GOAT throwing him the rock and only had 500+ yds and 2 tds. And Crowder was without his 2nd year QB For THREE games and still put up over 800 yds and 6 TDs....would have put up 1000yds and 9 TDS easily. C’mon, not even close! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Just now, Sonny Werblin said: Just as long as your rooting for his success Oh good. I'm glad I passed your test. ? Where do I go for my tee shirt? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 38 minutes ago, Warfish said: Cool. That's why they play the games. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 4 hours ago, JetFan20 said: Look at the depth charts of New England, Miami, and Buffalo and rank the units (ignore QB for now). Adam Gase seems like a nice guy with a great family, but he is toast. The only hope the Jets have in this division over the next few years is if Darnold plays significantly better than Allen, Stidham/Pats QB, and Tua. My offensive rankings (Pretty big gap on paper between Bills/Pats and Jets/Dolphins because of Oline) 1) Bills 2) Pats 3) Dolphins 4) Jets Defensive rankings (All defenses look pretty good-not going to be easy for Sam) 1) Bills 2) Pats 3) Dolphins 4) Jets RB: 1) Bills (Singletary/Moss) 2) Pats (Michel/White) 3) Dolphins (Howard/Brieda) 4) Jets (Bell/Perine) OL: 1) Pats (Wynn, Thuney, Andrews, Mason, Cannon) 2) Bills (Dawkins, Spain, Morse, Felciano, Ford) 3) Jets (Becton/Fant,Edoga, Lewis, McGovern, GVR/Winters, Becton/Fant/Edoga) 4) Dolphins (Davenport/Jackson, Flowers, Karras, Calhoun/Hunt, Davis/Hunt WR & TE (Weapons) 1) Bills (Diggs, Brown, Beasley, Knox) 2) Pats (Edelman, Sanu, Harry/Lee, Asaisi/Keene) 3) Dolphins (Parker, Williams, Wilson, Gesicki) 4) Jets (Crowder, Perriman, Mims/scrap heap guys, Herndon/Griffin) IDL: 1) Jets (McClendon, Williams, Fautukasi, Shepard, Anderson) 2) Bills (Lotululei, Oliver, Butler, Jefferson, Taylor/Phillips) 3) Dolphins (Godchaux, Raekwon Davis, Wilkins, Moss, Charlton) 4) Pats (Guy, Allen, Simon, Butler, Wise Jr, Thurman) Edge Rush 1) Dolphins (Van Noy, Lawson, Ogbah, Harris/Weaver) 2) Bills (Addioson, Hughes, Epenesa, Murphy) 3) Pats (Winovich, Bower, Uche, Copeland, Rivers/Calhoun) 4) Jets (Jenkins, Basham, Luvu, Zuniga) Safety 1) Jets (Adams, Maye, Davis) 2) Pats (McCourtey, Duggar, Chung) 3) Bills (Poyer, Hyde, Johnson/Marlowe) 4) Dolphins (Colbert, Rowe, Brandon Jones) ILB (I’d expect Avery to be cut) 1) Bills (Edmunds, Milano, Klein,) 2) Pats (Hightower, Bentley, Jennings) 3) Jets (Mosley, Hewitt, Burgess/Cashman) 4) Dolphins (Biegel, Baker, Raekwon McMillan) Cornerback 1A: Dolphins (Jones, Howard, Igbinoghene) 1B: Bills (White, Wallace, Norman) 1C: Pats (Gilmore, McCourtey, Jones) 4) Jets (Desir, Austin/List of scap heap guys, Poole) I'm glad you don't post often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFan20 Posted April 26, 2020 Author Share Posted April 26, 2020 43 minutes ago, Losmeister said: He remains the only Jet QB ever who knew how to throw back shoulder ... it's a timing and ball placement thing... and when he's on his slant is good too... remember Decker's 2015? Give it a rest. Fitzpatrick is TRASH. How did you like watching him play in 2016? Sam had plenty of impressive back shoulder throws last year (Cowboys game) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFan20 Posted April 26, 2020 Author Share Posted April 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, 14 in Green said: Would that make you feel better? You know, all warm and fuzzy inside? I heard an interview on ESPN radio podcast with Marty Lyons and he put it very well when asked about Sam. “I like Sam and think he’s the long term answer at QB, but its year 3 and put up or shut up time”. We are all optimstic about Darnold right now, and most recognize his combination of ability, youth, and learning curve. I can guaranty you the narrative amongst Jets will change if he doesn’t show improvement next year. I think the majority of NFL fans/national media have already written him off as another Jets bust solely based off the Monday night disaster. What’s frustrating to me is that I’m still not sure if they have put enough talent around him to properly evaluate him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamat711 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 37 minutes ago, Romanese said: Silly original post. If you are trying to look objective, try not to be so obviously biased. Instead, just start: As a Bills fan.....blah, blah, blah.... Let's revisit again at your rankings: QB: Jets (by a substantial amount), Bills, Pats?, Phins? (last two will be lunch!). TE: Jets (by a mile), Bills, Pats, Phins WR: Bills (by a mile), Jets, Phins, Pats (This is the Bills largest edge) RB: Bills, Jets, Phins, Pats (Top 3 almost even now that Nell has an Oline) OLine: Crap shoot, but I have it Pats, Bills, Jets, Phins But the Defensive, oh our defense--will be sick: LBs: Jets, Bills, Pats, Phins (Jets by a mile) DLine: Bills, Jets (close behind; better in the run game), Pats, and Phins CB: Bills, Pats, Phins, Jets (let's wait and see here??) Safeties: Jets (by a mile), Pats, Bills, Phins. Overall D Jets, Bills (very close behind), Pats, Phins QB - Darnold is not substantially better than Allen or Fitzpatrick. Fitz outplayed him with less talent. Allen outplayed him with more talent but still outplayed him. Even if Darnold is better, its not by much. TE - Mike Gesicki is the best and most accomplished TE in the AFCE right now. Herndon has the potential to be better, but until proven otherwise it's Gesicki. WR - The Phins and Pats have better WRs than the Jets. You probably weren't paying attention, but Preston Williams is a monster and Parker led the AFC in yards and they still have Albert Wilson. Edelman + Sanu is better than Crowder + Perriman, and until proven otherwise N'Keal >Mims. LB - You can't say Jets by a mile when the Bills have a top 5 LB duo, who never come off the field since they are also amazing in coverage. CB - The Jets are miles behind the division mainly due to their outside corners. The best CB on the Jets might not even be a top 10 CB in the division. At best Desir or Poole would be the 8th best CB in the division behind Gilmore, White, Howard, Byron, Mccourtey, JC Jackson, and Jonathan Jones. Safeties - I'm fine with the ranking, but how can the Jets be miles ahead when the Pats and Bills both have a top 5 Safety duo? You can make a argument that the Jets have the 3rd best Safety duo because they aren't as good against the pass which is more important. Did you really say that overall, the Jets have a better defense than the Bills and Pats? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Wang Doodle Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 20 minutes ago, 14 in Green said: Would that make you feel better? You know, all warm and fuzzy inside? Your non-answer says it all. Thanks - warm fuzzy feeling accomplished Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 My gut tells me that Miami having a better roster is certainly debatable. They didn't have much to offer last season. Their draft was pretty impressive but I don't believe that gives them a clear advantage over us. However, there's no doubt that NE and Buffalo are head and shoulders better teams. They have better rosters and they're better coached. The Jets are definitely one of the very least talented rosters in the entire league. That's just a fact that people are going to have to realize. The way I see it, the Jets will win one game in the division against Miami. Unfortunately because Mac did so much damage before he was fired in many ways it's like the Jets are starting over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFan20 Posted April 26, 2020 Author Share Posted April 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, hamat711 said: QB - Darnold is not substantially better than Allen or Fitzpatrick. Fitz outplayed him with less talent. Allen outplayed him with more talent but still outplayed him. Even if Darnold is better, its not by much. TE - Mike Gesicki is the best and most accomplished TE in the AFCE right now. Herndon has the potential to be better, but until proven otherwise it's Gesicki. WR - The Phins and Pats have better WRs than the Jets. You probably weren't paying attention, but Preston Williams is a monster and Parker led the AFC in yards and they still have Albert Wilson. Edelman + Sanu is better than Crowder + Perriman, and until proven otherwise N'Keal >Mims. LB - You can't say Jets by a mile when the Bills have a top 5 LB duo, who never come off the field since they are also amazing in coverage. CB - The Jets are miles behind the division mainly due to their outside corners. The best CB on the Jets might not even be a top 10 CB in the division. At best Desir or Poole would be the 8th best CB in the division behind Gilmore, White, Howard, Byron, Mccourtey, JC Jackson, and Jonathan Jones. Safeties - I'm fine with the ranking, but how can the Jets be miles ahead when the Pats and Bills both have a top 5 Safety duo? You can make a argument that the Jets have the 3rd best Safety duo because they aren't as good against the pass which is more important. Did you really say that overall, the Jets have a better defense than the Bills and Pats? This is pretty much where I’m at. Darnold will have to be far and away the best QB in the division for the Jets to have a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamat711 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 23 minutes ago, Lil O said: Crowder is 33 receptions, 300 yards receiving, 2+ yards per/rec, and 4 TDs BETTER than Sanu...crowder>Sanu...plus 5 years younger. Plenty of time to get even better. And that is with Brady as Sanu’s QB. He literally had the So called GOAT throwing him the rock and only had 500+ yds and 2 tds. And Crowder was without his 2nd year QB For THREE games and still put up over 800 yds and 6 TDs....would have put up 1000yds and 9 TDS easily. C’mon, not even close! That's because Sanu got traded mid season. You also ignore his entire career where he has put up similar numbers to Crowder for years. Saying Crowder would put up 1000 yards and 9 TDs is foolish. Why are you giving him 1 TD per game missed when he doesn't even average a TD per game? Also one of those games was against NE so his production would hardly change. Actually with Darnold the 2nd time against NE, he went from 25 yards to 26 yards lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 22 minutes ago, JetFan20 said: Give it a rest. Fitzpatrick is TRASH. How did you like watching him play in 2016? Sam had plenty of impressive back shoulder throws last year (Cowboys game) give your Sam Darnold fleshlight a rest. what is plenty? 4? 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamat711 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 41 minutes ago, kdels62 said: Edelman is nice but him and Sanu don’t gel because they work the same area. N’keal Harry isn’t even Breshad Perriman. Heck Perriman was better in 4 games than Sanu was last year. I don’t think there’s much difference between the two WR corps but the Jets have more upside and a better QB. Do you think 5 games erases how invisible Perriman has been for his 5 year career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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