The Crusher Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 16 minutes ago, nico002 said: Name 15 QBs you’d trade Darnold for right now. Why fifteen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 On 4/27/2020 at 11:54 AM, freestater said: Take a look at what Gase's system did without Darnold in there. Sam was the only one on offense that was stepping up last year. /thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 52 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Why fifteen? fine lets start with 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 19 minutes ago, nico002 said: fine lets start with 10 Should I go with what the QB has actually done or should I go with what that QB could do surrounded by a better team? Apples to apples and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 hour ago, The Crusher said: Should I go with what the QB has actually done or should I go with what that QB could do surrounded by a better team? Apples to apples and all. However you like, give me 10 QBs that you’d rather have on the Jets than Darnold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 22 hours ago, nico002 said: However you like, give me 10 QBs that you’d rather have on the Jets than Darnold. It's far from perfect, but Gregg Rosenthal provided a "QB Value rankings" list. Basically using a QB's age, ability, and contract to determine which QB's would gain the most in a trade. Even I think Darnold was too low (# 17) but its not bad: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001108258/article/nfl-qb-value-rankings-who-do-you-want-most-at-current-cost Of the 16 names he listed above Darnold, I'd take these over Darnold: Pat Mahomes Lamar Jackson Russell Wilson Deshaun Watson Carson Wentz Kyler Murray Dak Prescott Aaron Rodgers Drew Brees So that's 9. Thus I would say Darnold is the # 10 most valuable QB in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: It's far from perfect, but Gregg Rosenthal provided a "QB Value rankings" list. Basically using a QB's age, ability, and contract to determine which QB's would gain the most in a trade. Even I think Darnold was too low (# 17) but its not bad: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001108258/article/nfl-qb-value-rankings-who-do-you-want-most-at-current-cost Of the 16 names he listed above Darnold, I'd take these over Darnold: Pat Mahomes Lamar Jackson Russell Wilson Deshaun Watson Carson Wentz Kyler Murray Dak Prescott Aaron Rodgers Drew Brees So that's 9. Thus I would say Darnold is the # 10 most valuable QB in the league. You forgot to include the guy they had at #10 on their list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: It's far from perfect, but Gregg Rosenthal provided a "QB Value rankings" list. Basically using a QB's age, ability, and contract to determine which QB's would gain the most in a trade. Even I think Darnold was too low (# 17) but its not bad: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001108258/article/nfl-qb-value-rankings-who-do-you-want-most-at-current-cost Of the 16 names he listed above Darnold, I'd take these over Darnold: Pat Mahomes Lamar Jackson Russell Wilson Deshaun Watson Carson Wentz Kyler Murray Dak Prescott Aaron Rodgers Drew Brees So that's 9. Thus I would say Darnold is the # 10 most valuable QB in the league. Would you agree that Dak, Brees, and Murray are highly questionable choices that really could go either way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetworks Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, 14 in Green said: You forgot to include the guy they had at #10 on their list. It was Baker Mayfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Just now, Jetworks said: It was Baker Mayfield. Imagine that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, 14 in Green said: Imagine that. I guess those “great” commercials are still giving him some hope by people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Excuses? JFC. The reason Sam Darnold hasn't 'been better is because he had mono, an atrocious O-line, few quality receivers and a head coach who has never done a thing without a HOF QB carrying him. Reasons and excuses are not the same thing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 8 hours ago, nico002 said: Would you agree that Dak, Brees, and Murray are highly questionable choices that really could go either way? Nope. Because Darnold would be a highly questionable straight up trade for those organizations that could go either way too. Brees, even in his old age, can still make deep playoff runs. Dak is a top 10 QB. Murray was a # 1 overall pick and had an impressive rookie year; he has 4 years left on his rookie deal. You have zero ability to see the non-Darnold side of any equation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 8 hours ago, 14 in Green said: You forgot to include the guy they had at #10 on their list. Nope, I didn't. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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