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1 hour ago, The Crusher said:


 

Should I go with what the QB has actually done or should I go with what that QB could do surrounded by a better team? Apples to apples and all. 

However you like, give me 10 QBs that you’d rather have on the Jets than Darnold.

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22 hours ago, nico002 said:

However you like, give me 10 QBs that you’d rather have on the Jets than Darnold.

It's far from perfect, but Gregg Rosenthal provided a "QB Value rankings" list.  Basically using a QB's age, ability, and contract to determine which QB's would gain the most in a trade. 

Even I think Darnold was too low (# 17) but its not bad:  http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001108258/article/nfl-qb-value-rankings-who-do-you-want-most-at-current-cost

Of the 16 names he listed above Darnold, I'd take these over Darnold:

  • Pat Mahomes
  • Lamar Jackson
  • Russell Wilson
  • Deshaun Watson
  • Carson Wentz
  • Kyler Murray
  • Dak Prescott
  • Aaron Rodgers
  • Drew Brees

So that's 9.  Thus I would say Darnold is the # 10 most valuable QB in the league.  

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Just now, Jetsfan80 said:

It's far from perfect, but Gregg Rosenthal provided a "QB Value rankings" list.  Basically using a QB's age, ability, and contract to determine which QB's would gain the most in a trade. 

Even I think Darnold was too low (# 17) but its not bad:  http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001108258/article/nfl-qb-value-rankings-who-do-you-want-most-at-current-cost

Of the 16 names he listed above Darnold, I'd take these over Darnold:

  • Pat Mahomes
  • Lamar Jackson
  • Russell Wilson
  • Deshaun Watson
  • Carson Wentz
  • Kyler Murray
  • Dak Prescott
  • Aaron Rodgers
  • Drew Brees

So that's 9.  Thus I would say Darnold is the # 10 most valuable QB in the league.  

You forgot to include the guy they had at #10 on their list. 😐

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17 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

It's far from perfect, but Gregg Rosenthal provided a "QB Value rankings" list.  Basically using a QB's age, ability, and contract to determine which QB's would gain the most in a trade. 

Even I think Darnold was too low (# 17) but its not bad:  http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001108258/article/nfl-qb-value-rankings-who-do-you-want-most-at-current-cost

Of the 16 names he listed above Darnold, I'd take these over Darnold:

  • Pat Mahomes
  • Lamar Jackson
  • Russell Wilson
  • Deshaun Watson
  • Carson Wentz
  • Kyler Murray
  • Dak Prescott
  • Aaron Rodgers
  • Drew Brees

So that's 9.  Thus I would say Darnold is the # 10 most valuable QB in the league.  

Would you agree that Dak, Brees, and Murray are highly questionable choices that really could go either way?

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Excuses?  JFC.  

The reason Sam Darnold hasn't 'been better is because he had  mono, an atrocious O-line, few quality receivers and a head coach who has never done a thing without a HOF QB carrying him.  

Reasons and excuses are not the same thing.
 
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8 hours ago, nico002 said:

Would you agree that Dak, Brees, and Murray are highly questionable choices that really could go either way?

Nope.  Because Darnold would be a highly questionable straight up trade for those organizations that could go either way too.  Brees, even in his old age, can still make deep playoff runs.  Dak is a top 10 QB.  Murray was a # 1 overall pick and had an impressive rookie year; he has 4 years left on his rookie deal.  

You have zero ability to see the non-Darnold side of any equation.  

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