heymangold Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, predator_05 said: At least allow Denzel mims to fail before you trade for another WR another WR? mims isn't even proven yet, crowder is a good slot guy and perriman has a solid chance to bust. another WR or 2 is absolutely necessary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 43 minutes ago, heymangold said: I love when guys downplay receivers like this. Trading for juju would bring a receiver here that is probably the best the jets have had since the braylon edwards, santonio holmes days. This team doesn’t ever have talent the likes of juju, everyone seems fine with a good slot guy and middling talents like robbie anderson and breshad perriman. Look at the bills, they made moves. The Eagles, they made moves. The cardinals, they made moves. The Broncos draft 2 highly regarded WRs to go with their already good WR in courtland sutton. Time to surround darnold with some weapons and see what he can do. Juju went from 1,400 yards to 500 yards receiving once AB left. You can blame the QB but only for so long. The Steelers are about to commit highway robbery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dcat Posted April 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: No. Juju is overrated and got exposed without Antonio Brown last season big time This is wrong on every level. There was no QB worth a sh!t in Pittsburgh. That's like evaluating Jets receivers w/Luke Faulk at QB. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Just now, Philc1 said: Juju went from 1,400 yards to 500 yards receiving once AB left. You can blame the QB but only for so long. The Steelers are about to commit highway robbery QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Not interested in any huge trades until we get to see how all the new players fill out in preseason. We aren't near the point where we need to make a trade like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 46 minutes ago, heymangold said: I love when guys downplay receivers like this. Trading for juju would bring a receiver here that is probably the best the jets have had since the braylon edwards, santonio holmes days. This team doesn’t ever have talent the likes of juju, everyone seems fine with a good slot guy and middling talents like robbie anderson and breshad perriman. Look at the bills, they made moves. The Eagles, they made moves. The cardinals, they made moves. The Broncos draft 2 highly regarded WRs to go with their already good WR in courtland sutton. Time to surround darnold with some weapons and see what he can do. And people are blindly looking at stats and saying A. Brown was the reason for JuJu's success. LOL LOL LOL. How dumb considering the QB issues they had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Philc1 said: No. Juju is overrated and got exposed without a viable NFL QB last season big time. Now Jerry Rice, that's a guy that didn't need a good QB to succeed. Fixed that for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Yes, absolutely. If we were to get Smith-Schuster the offense would be loaded with weapons and should be enough to make the playoffs at a minimum and quite possibly win the East. That would make the 2nd round pick in the 50s or even 60s, and 5th rounders are always a crap shoot. We already have two extra picks next year from the Giants and Patriots trade so that would leave us with 8. I’m not seeing the down side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Yes sir 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I would do that trade in a heartbeat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dcat said: This is wrong on every level. There was no QB worth a sh!t in Pittsburgh. That's like evaluating Jets receivers w/Luke Faulk at QB. So why did Diontae Johnson, a rookie playing with the same qbs, have more receiving yards, touchdowns and receptions than Juju last season? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Fortune favors the bold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Just now, Philc1 said: So why did Diontae Johnson, a rookie playing with the same qbs, have more receiving yards, touchdowns and receptions than Juju last season? Because the QB couldn't get the ball downfield at all and had to check down all the time and hardly ever even looked Juju's way. You watched zero Steelers it seems. You are going just on stats alone. Stop. You are wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said: Fixed that for you Dionate Johnson - 680 yards 5 tds Juju Smith Schuster - 553 yards 3 tds Playing with the same quarterbacks on the same team. is Juju like the new Marqise Lee here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Just now, Philc1 said: Dionate Johnson - 680 yards 5 tds Juju Smith Schuster - 553 yards 3 tds Playing with the same quarterbacks on the same team. This is idiotic. You take Johnson and I'll take Smith-Schuster and in 5 years we'll see who will be laughuing in the other's face. You didn't even watch the steelers if you are making this claim. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Just now, Dcat said: Because the QB couldn't get the ball downfield at all and had to check down all the time and hardly ever even looked Juju's way. You watched zero Steelers it seems. You are going just on stats alone. Stop. You are wrong. I watched the Steelers plenty last year. Juju looked average without AB drawing double coverage every play and you guys want to trade a first round pick and more for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I would trade a 2nd for a WR. Juju is worth a 2nd. I’m just not sure we are the best fit though. We already have a slot WR. We’d be trading a premium pick and paying him premium money to play on the outside and he may not be as productive out there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Just now, Dcat said: This is idiotic. You take Johnson and I'll take Smith-Schuster and in 5 years we'll see who will be laughuing in the other's face. You didn't even watch the steelers if you are making this claim. Why is it idiotic? Same team, same qbs throwing the ball, yet a unheralded rookie outperformed a supposed “Star” Smith Schuster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Just now, Philc1 said: Why is it idiotic? Same team, same qbs throwing the ball, yet a rookie outperformed a supposed “Star” Smith Schuster You have no clue on this one. Done with this nonsense. You put Diontae on your team. I'll put Smith-Schuster on my team. Leave it at that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Philc1 said: No. Juju is overrated and got exposed without Antonio Brown last season big time He had a backup QB throwing to him. Juju would beast here with teams also having to check Mims, Crowder, Perriman, Herndon & Bell out of the backfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Dcat said: You have no clue on this one. Done with this nonsense. You put Diontae on your team. I'll put Smith-Schuster on my team. Leave it at that. Great argument bra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 111 catches and almost 1500 yards two seasons ago with Ben and were saying he isnt a game changer? Are we serious, he had a great year last time he had a QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Jetster said: He had a backup QB throwing to him. Juju would beast here with teams also having to check Mims, Crowder, Perriman, Herndon & Bell out of the backfield. And a rookie playing on the same team with the same backup qb was more productive you guys act like Juju is Calvin Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: So why did Diontae Johnson, a rookie playing with the same qbs, have more receiving yards, touchdowns and receptions than Juju last season? 22 more targets, less attention from defenses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Dionate Johnson - 680 yards 5 tds Juju Smith Schuster - 553 yards 3 tds Playing with the same quarterbacks on the same team. is Juju like the new Marqise Lee here? 3 minutes ago, Philc1 said: I watched the Steelers plenty last year. Juju looked average without AB drawing double coverage every play and you guys want to trade a first round pick and more for him your 2 posts contradict themself. you say juju was only good because AB took pressure off and now he wasn't good because he got double teamed. so dionte johnson wasn't benefiting from teams double teaming juju? also, the question was a 2nd rounder. i'd absolutely do that for juju. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Just now, Jet Nut said: 111 catches and almost 1500 yards two seasons ago with Ben and were saying he isnt a game changer? Are we serious, he had a great year last time he had a QB And Antonio Brown drawing double coverage every play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Just now, heymangold said: your 2 posts contradict themself. you say juju was only good because AB took pressure off and now he wasn't good because he got double teamed. so dionte johnson wasn't benefiting from teams double teaming juju? also, the question was a 2nd rounder. i'd absolutely do that for juju. Juju’s stats from two years ago were because Antonio Brown drew double coverage every single play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Mims as the X, JuJu as the Z, Crowder in the slot, Herndon at the Y, Cager as a big slot. I’d go to battle with that group. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Great argument bra You ignored the argument entirely. A QB who can't throw downfield is what killed Smith-Schuster's year. Your argument is based solely on stats without any regard to what led to those stats. It's child-like reasoning and it's not even worth the time, Phil. How the F could you disreggard the QB in evaluating the WR? Geez Phil you are better than that, I thought. Next topic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Philc1 said: I watched the Steelers plenty last year. Juju looked average without AB drawing double coverage every play and you guys want to trade a first round pick and more for him AB? He didnt have a QB last year. He didnt go off for almost 1500 yards and 11 catches because of AB. No one would agree with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Philc1 said: I watched the Steelers plenty last year. Juju looked average without AB drawing double coverage every play and you guys want to trade a first round pick and more for him LOL you just compared Johnson to Ju Ju and conveniently forgot to take that into account. Another one like this and I'm going to choose to believe you're a figment of my imagination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Just now, Philc1 said: And a rookie playing on the same team with the same backup qb was more productive you guys act like Juju is Calvin Johnson It’s Dominos. That’s fast talent at every position on the field except RB ?. Perine can change that. Perriman would be your 4th WR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: Juju’s stats from two years ago were because Antonio Brown drew double coverage every single play but then you say he was bad when he double teamed last year and johnson was better. here's why: because all the attention was on juju. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Philc1 said: And Antonio Brown drawing double coverage every play Sure, that's what it was. In fact no one covered JuJu. He was left alone to run free. All those number and through 16 games no one thought to cover him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said: 22 more targets, less attention from defenses? Well yes you have to get open to get targets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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