Jets723 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 minute ago, GreenFish said: 1 Yr $15 million. Get it done Joe. He would complete our defense even if it’s for 1 year. With the shortened season, who the hell knows what could happen. Darnold could get hot for a few weeks. We may make a run for the big game. Yeah that the most I would do. 1 year 15 million is ok. He will be playing for his next contract and we get a nice comp pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Hasn't this guy underperormed everywhere he has been? I mean can you imagine if the Jets had drafted him. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 26 minutes ago, batman10023 said: has his production been worth of $17mm or $15mm per year? $15 sure. He’s been an elite run defender and a slightly above average pass rusher. If he stays healthy for 16 games, he’ll give 7-8 sacks and 15ish TFL. Clowney is that Trey Flowers type edge rusher. How much were people willing to pay Flowers last year? Clowney is better than him, but comes with injury concerns. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BurnleyJet Posted April 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2020 Maccagnan and Mike Tannenbaum would have already signed him. To $25 million per ? 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prez33 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, batman10023 said: two wrongs don't make a right. i get he was a first selection. but he's averaged less than 6 sacks a year and has missed many games. And for a 1 year rental what does that really get us - will it make us a playoff team? We get all wrapped up in the name because he was a lottery pick. But the production hasn’t matched, especially sacks. This dude was paid to sack the QB, and we’re gonna pay him over 15 million a year? Pass. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I fell for this about a month ago with some bastard named Conklin. You won't hear me complain if we sign him but he's just trying to drive his price up 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, Philc1 said: That’s probably all it would take 1 year at $17 mil It's a buyer's market right now...How about 2 years for 28 mil, with half guaranteed, and with incentives could potentially make 6 million more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Good post, Phil. So you don’t think he would’ve sat there and taken Winters crap either, huh? ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 He’s better than 90% of Edge players in the league. We suck at EDGE. Clowney is great at TFLs and versatile. Elite run defense, good not great sack total, very good pressure stats. Yes, sign him and see our good defense become elite. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: It's a buyer's market right now...How about 2 years for 28 mil, with half guaranteed, and with incentives could potentially make 6 million more. I don’t even think you need to throw in the incentives. Maybe just a few more guaranteed $$$, but not many. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 2 years, 15 million per. 20 million guaranteed. bam. pass rush problems solved. watch him go to New England 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I don't get this clowney obsession. He's a rotational player. Even as a rental at something like 15mill for 1 year...you're *hoping* he does better than he has for most of his career because he'll want a bigger contract.. This is like going six months without getting laid and porking someone you find repugnant. Sometimes, something isn't better than nothing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: I don't get this clowney obsession. He's a rotational player. Even as a rental at something like 15mill for 1 year...you're *hoping* he does better than he has for most of his career because he'll want a bigger contract.. This is like going six months without getting laid and porking someone you find repugnant. Sometimes, something isn't better than nothing. I want him to be what he was his 3 seasons before he went to the Seahawks. Elite pressure and versatility and 8+ sacks a season. $15 million is a really good price for a guy that can play all over the front seven at a high level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: If I invested money in a Jamal Adams jersey, I too would be uneasy about a Logan Ryan signing. solid response.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Just now, kdels62 said: I want him to be what he was his 3 seasons before he went to the Seahawks. Elite pressure and versatility and 8+ sacks a season. $15 million is a really good price for a guy that can play all over the front seven at a high level. We can save 7 million by cutting Winters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 He is not really a pash rusher and we are already STOUT against the run. He is just a name player. Would add very little to this team. Build from within 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Just sign him already! This defense would be really fun to watch adding him to the mix I feel we’d have a top 5 defense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: You kind of feel bad for Clowney at this point. Nah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Drums Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, johnnysd said: He is not really a pash rusher and we are already STOUT against the run. He is just a name player. Would add very little to this team. Build from within This Signing the best corner available or going after big bad 91 on the Jaguars would be a better use of that money IMO, if we're looking to spend. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 lets get that price down some more and im all about it 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Get rid of that bum Anderson and his $8.5 mil overprice Mag contract whether we sign Clowney or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 43 minutes ago, GreenFish said: $15 sure. He’s been an elite run defender and a slightly above average pass rusher. If he stays healthy for 16 games, he’ll give 7-8 sacks and 15ish TFL. Clowney is that Trey Flowers type edge rusher. How much were people willing to pay Flowers last year? Clowney is better than him, but comes with injury concerns. I think Flowers was overpaid but a solid player. I think your description of him and injury concerns are spot on. So basically we d be overpaying for a player similar to Flowers but with a much worse injury history . Definitely an expensive gamble and especially when you cant examine the player. We can find the money if we need to . But is he a solid team player and leader with intangibles that is worth all that dough? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, Drums said: This Signing the best corner available or going after big bad 91 on the Jaguars would be a better use of that money IMO, if we're looking to spend. Big bad 91 would also require giving up draft picks and a big long term contract. I'd rather pay clowney for 1 year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 His agent blows lol these leaks make his value go down stfu dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Big bad 91 would also require giving up draft picks and a big long term contract. I'd rather pay clowney for 1 year. I'd rather do neither but if I had to choose, I'd give up a draft pick for a proven pass rusher (but most definitely not a 1st), unless he's just been overrated due to all this. Sorry I just don't know how to spell his name so I am calling him 91. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Someone explain why he is an elite DE that warrants $15 million a year? He has played a full season once in 6 years, has averaged 4 missed games a year, has never had 10 sacks and averages about 5-6 sacks a season and has had 40 solo tackles twice. This team does not need another overpaid run stuffer. Haven't we seen enough of this type of DL over the past few years. Is there any wonder he is still on the street? No thanks. Let someone else pay him. There are reasons some players are repeatedly changing uniforms and it's not because they are performing at a high level or deserving of big money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prez33 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 56 minutes ago, GreenFish said: $15 sure. He’s been an elite run defender and a slightly above average pass rusher. If he stays healthy for 16 games, he’ll give 7-8 sacks and 15ish TFL. Clowney is that Trey Flowers type edge rusher. How much were people willing to pay Flowers last year? Clowney is better than him, but comes with injury concerns. Jordan Jenkins gets 8 sacks a year, and is very good at setting the edge against the run. Jad Clowney might get eight sacks for the Jets, if he stays healthy, and is very good at setting the edge against the run. How much are each of these players going to make this season? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 23 minutes ago, Prez33 said: Jordan Jenkins gets 8 sacks a year, and is very good at setting the edge against the run. Jad Clowney might get eight sacks for the Jets, if he stays healthy, and is very good at setting the edge against the run. How much are each of these players going to make this season? There’s a difference between setting the edge and blowing up RBs in the backfield though. Clowney is a much better run defender than Jenkins. Clowney in the 3 seasons prior to last averaged 18 TFL. Jenkins has 22 for his entire career. We got a good deal on Jenkins. He supposedly took a discount to stay with us. So it’s going to be hard to beat that value. I’m a Jenkins fan. I wouldn’t be pro a long term deal because of the injuries. But there’s not much downside in a 1yr deal. Just opportunity cost really. We won’t be able to sign someone else like Logan Ryan. Not much out there any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Jets723 said: Yeah that the most I would do. 1 year 15 million is ok. He will be playing for his next contract and we get a nice comp pick how did he do the last time he was playing for his contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, GreenFish said: $15 sure. He’s been an elite run defender and a slightly above average pass rusher. If he stays healthy for 16 games, he’ll give 7-8 sacks and 15ish TFL. Clowney is that Trey Flowers type edge rusher. How much were people willing to pay Flowers last year? Clowney is better than him, but comes with injury concerns. how many games does he miss per year on average? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, batman10023 said: how did he do the last time he was playing for his contract? Look like I mean ruined before I’m not a fan of his and I’m not saying we should sign him. I’m just saying if we did that’s my best case scenerio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 56 minutes ago, Prez33 said: Jordan Jenkins gets 8 sacks a year, and is very good at setting the edge against the run. Jad Clowney might get eight sacks for the Jets, if he stays healthy, and is very good at setting the edge against the run. How much are each of these players going to make this season? Difference is Clowney is capable of taking over games. He damn near singlehandedly beat San Fran late last season. We’ve never seen Jenkins even remotely take over a game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Gastineau Lives said: That thing is just appreciating in value every day, my dude. As a write off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 These types of rumors will die down over time. The league is used to shopping their overpriced merchandise in front of the Johnsons and their front office check writers who would have happily embraced the marketing gimmick for the next season. after this free agency and this draft, I think we finally have our own Tyrian Lannister keeping that bs out of the realm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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