Popular Post jetstream23 Posted May 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2020 https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2020/insider/story/_/id/29113626/ranking-five-best-draft-trades-2020-nfl-draft-why-vikings-were-winners (Summary: Joe D. is the f'ing man!) Quote Ranking the five best in-draft trades of the 2020 NFL draft: Why the Vikings were winners 1. Minnesota Vikings-San Francisco 49ers 2. New England Patriots-Los Angeles Chargers 3. Cleveland Browns-New Orleans Saints 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fullblast Posted May 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2020 Joe Douglas 10 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 82nd Airborne Posted May 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2020 Good things are coming and it has been long overdue. On the other hand, fire Gase if we are .500 or below and Darnold regreses. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenReaper Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 1 hour ago, 82nd Airborne said: Good things are coming and it has been long overdue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 When was the last time we looked smart up and down a draft? Made not just one smart trade that worked out well but two? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Which is the better trio? Johnson, Douglas, Gase Or Adams, Maye, Davis 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jetstream23 Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: When was the last time we looked smart up and down a draft? I'll have to get back to you on that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, BROOKLYN JET said: Which is the better trio? Johnson, Douglas, Gase Or Adams, Maye, Davis C. The Three Amigos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: C. The Three Amigos The obvious winner is.............. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 Just now, Jet Nut said: The obvious winner is.............. So you voted Woody, Chris Johnson and Gase? Nyuck - Nyuck - Nyuck! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: So you voted Woody, Chris Johnson and Gase? Nyuck - Nyuck - Nyuck! Certnly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 40 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: C. The Three Amigos How about the original? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 But but but so many keyboard geniuses complained we lost those trades in the moment and they had trade value charts. -.- ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Ohhh I get it. Jets GM >> Patriots GM. Nice. Bout time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 we almost had another trade down! -At pick No. 83, the Broncos drafted center Lloyd Cushenberry. The starting snapper for national champion LSU is the early favorite to be Denver’s Week 1 center. However, he may well have been the Broncos’ second choice for this role. The Broncos had a deal in place to move up to No. 79, where they would have taken Temple center Matt Hennessy, Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News reports. The Jets were set to drop from No. 79 to No. 83 and add a Day 3 pick from the Broncos to do so, Mehta notes. The Falcons, however, scuttled these plans by drafting Hennessy at No. 78. Instead of moving up for Cushenberry, the Broncos stood pat. Interestingly, the Jets’ signing of two-year Broncos starter Connor McGovern created a Denver need at center. With the Falcons interrupting a Jets trade-down maneuver, Gang Green took defensive end Jabari Zuniga at No. 79. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 “Competence, it’s a helluva a drug.” 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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David Harris Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Jetlife33 said: we almost had another trade down! -At pick No. 83, the Broncos drafted center Lloyd Cushenberry. The starting snapper for national champion LSU is the early favorite to be Denver’s Week 1 center. However, he may well have been the Broncos’ second choice for this role. The Broncos had a deal in place to move up to No. 79, where they would have taken Temple center Matt Hennessy, Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News reports. The Jets were set to drop from No. 79 to No. 83 and add a Day 3 pick from the Broncos to do so, Mehta notes. The Falcons, however, scuttled these plans by drafting Hennessy at No. 78. Instead of moving up for Cushenberry, the Broncos stood pat. Interestingly, the Jets’ signing of two-year Broncos starter Connor McGovern created a Denver need at center. With the Falcons interrupting a Jets trade-down maneuver, Gang Green took defensive end Jabari Zuniga at No. 79. LOVE these tidbits, thanks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Patriot Killa Posted May 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2020 Joe Douglas is a real GM. I can’t even begin to express how good I feel about our long term stability. The GM has been found. If Gase folds then so be it because we’ll be TALENTED and that’s the most important thing to me. This guy’s plan looks solid and he’s coming off very savvy in the process. Good stuff all round. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 13 hours ago, TNJet said: Ohhh I get it. Jets GM >> Patriots GM. Nice. Bout time. sig change long overdue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeebKnows Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 The Jets offense needs to improve into high teens, very low 20's to prove the coaching is matching the incoming talent. That will be JD's next test, can he move on from a "friend" if the results don't prove out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlichtie Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 15 hours ago, Jetlife33 said: we almost had another trade down! -At pick No. 83, the Broncos drafted center Lloyd Cushenberry. The starting snapper for national champion LSU is the early favorite to be Denver’s Week 1 center. However, he may well have been the Broncos’ second choice for this role. The Broncos had a deal in place to move up to No. 79, where they would have taken Temple center Matt Hennessy, Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News reports. The Jets were set to drop from No. 79 to No. 83 and add a Day 3 pick from the Broncos to do so, Mehta notes. The Falcons, however, scuttled these plans by drafting Hennessy at No. 78. Instead of moving up for Cushenberry, the Broncos stood pat. Interestingly, the Jets’ signing of two-year Broncos starter Connor McGovern created a Denver need at center. With the Falcons interrupting a Jets trade-down maneuver, Gang Green took defensive end Jabari Zuniga at No. 79. Very interesting. Lots of speculation we wanted Hennessy but this would suggest not 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Dcat said: sig change long overdue When I go to edit profile can't find where I can change it. Help wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 22 minutes ago, redlichtie said: Very interesting. Lots of speculation we wanted Hennessy but this would suggest not How does this suggest that? He was gone before we picked. Douglas probably didnt know why Denver wanted to move up. He has shown that he isnt in love with a pick but is all about value when he moved down with Mims on the board, then took him later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeeJet22 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 58 minutes ago, redlichtie said: Very interesting. Lots of speculation we wanted Hennessy but this would suggest not I agree. JD had more pressing needs than adding more Interior OL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, redlichtie said: Very interesting. Lots of speculation we wanted Hennessy but this would suggest not They must’ve felt Zuniga would’ve been there at 83, tried to get him at that spot and add another pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Bowles Movement said: How does this suggest that? He was gone before we picked. Douglas probably didnt know why Denver wanted to move up. He has shown that he isnt in love with a pick but is all about value when he moved down with Mims on the board, then took him later. I think teams get an idea who their trade partners are trading up to get, especially when only moving down fewer slots like that. If we were dropping double digits - like when we moved down from 48 - then too many other things can happen so let chips fall where they may. But when someone is willing to get leapfrogging that little, yeah I think they ask which guy they're targeting. I agree with your latter point about blocks of players, and sure it's possible he'd have drafted him at 83. But IMO if he really wanted Hennessy I doubt he'd get that cute about it for what was probably their pick #178. The Jets have a proven young starting center, signed for the next 3 seasons, at what's currently reasonable starter $. They also have an experienced backup signed for the year at very reasonable $. Neither Douglas nor Gase seems to undervalue OL importance (and after the Paradis and Kalil stories, not at center). So after signing McGovern and the remaining results that we didn't even take a shot in the dark late on a center prospect - says he probably wasn't targeting him, or wasn't targeting him unless he fell to an even later pick of ours. One doesn't like a center prospect on day 2 only if he also comes along with the #178 pick. JMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said: I think teams get an idea who their trade partners are trading up to get, especially when only moving down fewer slots like that. If we were dropping double digits - like when we moved down from 48 - then too many other things can happen so let chips fall where they may. But when someone is willing to get leapfrogging that little, yeah I think they ask which guy they're targeting. I agree with your latter point about blocks of players, and sure it's possible he'd have drafted him at 83. But IMO if he really wanted Hennessy I doubt he'd get that cute about it for what was probably their pick #178. The Jets have a proven young starting center, signed for the next 3 seasons, at what's currently reasonable starter $. They also have an experienced backup signed for the year at very reasonable $. Neither Douglas nor Gase seems to undervalue OL importance (and after the Paradis and Kalil stories, not at center). So after signing McGovern and the remaining results that we didn't even take a shot in the dark late on a center prospect - says he probably wasn't targeting him, or wasn't targeting him unless he fell to an even later pick of ours. One doesn't like a center prospect on day 2 only if he also comes along with the #178 pick. JMO. Unless the trading team is only coming up one pick, asking who they want doesnt mean you still get the player you wanted with your pick. Even if Denver had told him they wanted someone else, it wouldnt protect the player from other teams drafting him. Anytime you drop back for more picks you need to have a block of players that youre happy selecting from. At 83 Douglas probably had Zuniga and 3-4 or more players he found acceptable Hennessey might have been one of them. The jump down in the second was bigger but the concept is the same. The good thing about being so talent deprived is that you go bpa nearly all the time and improve your team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 5 hours ago, redlichtie said: Very interesting. Lots of speculation we wanted Hennessy but this would suggest not After the move for McGovern I got the sense the Jets would be less focused on Center in this year's Draft. We know the OLine rebuild has been Priority 1 but the focus during this Draft seemed to be OT, as it should have been. Wouldn't be surprised if Center is a Day 2 target either next year or the year following. If I had to guess right now I think our "premium position" of focus for next year's Draft will be either CB or Edge rusher in Round 1. Really need that true CB1 depending on how Desir, Hall and Austin look this season. Ideally, I think each of those guys could be CB2 material. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 The vibes on the team are so freaking positive. There’s always offseason hype and fluff pieces, and the Jets always seem to be the offseason champs, but for the first time in my life as a Jets fan, this franchise is finally coming together. Darnold will have to take that next step in spite of the 5 year proven track record of incompetence at the head coaching spot, but at least he’s got a real GM to build this team. The GM is supplementing Darnold’s abilities by giving him a defense to take pressure off of him, an OL to protect him, and weapons to elevate him. It’s a work in progress but it really looks like they finally have 2 of the 3 most important pieces to football team locked up. I truly believe that once we finally get a halfway decent offensive mind/competent head coach in here, we’ll be looking at a solid 10-12 years of competitive ball. That’s something that I’ve never felt with this team. Ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 Any optimism about last year was centered on two big names, Le’Veon Bell and CJ Mosely. The optimism this year is based on one big name.... Joe Douglas. It's the confidence we're starting to build that there's a steady, capable hand on the steering wheel of this franchise. Douglas isn't following Maccagnan's approach of trying to distract the owner and fans with shiny objects. He's building a foundation and it's been really satisfying to watch this unfold the past few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 7 hours ago, Bowles Movement said: Unless the trading team is only coming up one pick, asking who they want doesnt mean you still get the player you wanted with your pick. Even if Denver had told him they wanted someone else, it wouldnt protect the player from other teams drafting him. Anytime you drop back for more picks you need to have a block of players that youre happy selecting from. At 83 Douglas probably had Zuniga and 3-4 or more players he found acceptable Hennessey might have been one of them. The jump down in the second was bigger but the concept is the same. The good thing about being so talent deprived is that you go bpa nearly all the time and improve your team. Lol no doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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