Should Jets take chance on Antonio Brown

[Barry McCockinner]

Maybe he can take Mims under his wing. ehh - no thanks. And I wanted to get him last year.

[shawn306]

48 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

Looks like the Ravens are targeting him. If they can bring him in why can’t the Jets?

If the Patriots could not handle him no one can. 
 

Until he goes and gets some psychiatric help I would not go anywhere near him.

[Il Mostro]

[Greensleeves]

1 hour ago, hamat711 said:

Honestly, it's not the worst idea.

The WRs are bad, and the depth is awful. Can this group even sustain 1 injury without turning into the 2019 Eagles?

You need to know what you have in Darnold and it's unlikely this WR group can give you a fair evaluation.

If you sign AB for 1 year, atleast you will get to know the truth about Darnold. If he does well with AB, you can continue your investment in Darnold. If he somehow learned to behave with his year off, you could also resign him.

How can you say the wide receivers are bad without seeing them play? Crowder is bad - no. Herndon is bad - nope, and yes he is a wide receiver in my eyes in this offense. Mims is bad - no. Perriman is more talented than Robby and Robby wasn't bad. If Robby was on Tampa last year his numbers would have likely been worse than Perriman. The depth is a question mark for sure - but that's not giving the young guys any credit on whether they can step up or not. Mims could become a #1 - we'll have to see.

[#27TheDominator]

1 hour ago, slimjasi said:

Yeah, again, this is simply incorrect.

Note that this isn't an opinion. The legal verdict of "Not Guilty" is not equal to "innocent."

 

Well, if you're "innocent until proven guilty" and the verdict is "not guilty", isn't that equal to "innocent." 

[Lil O]

1 hour ago, Rhg1084 said:

Looks like the Ravens are targeting him. If they can bring him in why can’t the Jets?

I heard santonio Holmes is making a comeback as well....Go JD GO!!!  

[#27TheDominator]

1 hour ago, King P said:

Please don't come in here spouting about how he'll be bad for Darnold either. If that's the case, then Sam is not the guy we need to hitch our wagons to

If he was bad enough for Roethlisberger that the Steelers dumped him, then why can't being bad for Darnold be a good excuse?  The Steelers paid over $21 Million for him not to play for them.  Do you think that 3rd round pick was that important?

[slimjasi]

3 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

Well, if you're "innocent until proven guilty" and the verdict is "not guilty, isn't that equal to "innocent." 

Again . . . no

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

[King P]

8 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

If he was bad for Roethlisberger, then why can't be bad for Darnold be a good excuse?

He was he bad for Big Ben when Big Ben did fine with him.

I can easily counter that too by saying that AB was fine Tom Brady. In fact Brady probably vouched for AB and lobbied for Tampa Bay to bring him in.

If he's good enough for the "GOAT" QB, he's good enough for Sam 

[CanadienJetsFan]

Lol! Thanks, I needed a good laugh today.

[flgreen]

1 hour ago, slimjasi said:

Well, one is a double-murdering psychopath, but point taken

So?

Ray ray, is probably going to the HOF

[Greenbloodblitz]

WHAT!?

[SOJ]

in a word NO!

[JetPotato]

I'd rather get COVID

[Melly-Mel]

Hard pass imo.  Great player, but hes a mess and will cause a major distraction and problems

[TnT]

Any chance we can give him week to week contracts?

[PepPep]

LESLIE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPE

 

[LRJets]

Just yesterday regarding the signing of Frank Gore to the Jets, a poster here said, "The Jets and Joe Douglas  are looking to add character to the  team, not add characters."

Can Antonio Brown be THE poster child for characters of team destruction?

 

[#27TheDominator]

19 minutes ago, King P said:

He was he bad for Big Ben when Big Ben did fine with him.

I can easily counter that too by saying that AB was fine Tom Brady. In fact Brady probably vouched for AB and lobbied for Tampa Bay to bring him in.

If he's good enough for the "GOAT" QB, he's good enough for Sam 

Ben did so fine with him that the Steelers ate $21M to dump him? 

I get where you're coming from and I am generally fine with head cases, but this is more like the 2006 team than the 2009/2010 teams.  They need to build slowly and one piece isn't going to take them over the top.  Not worth the high likelihood of disaster IMO.  Did the guy even find a helmet he is willing to play in yet? 

[Thai Jet]

1 hour ago, Rhg1084 said:

Looks like the Ravens are targeting him. If they can bring him in why can’t the Jets?

Ravens ? I'll believe it when I see it. AB doesn't seem like a fit in Balt.

[Jetsfan80]

2 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

This guy can be a plug in stud number one receiver. Really can upgrade this whole offense and give Sam a huge weapon. Obviously if he pulls any of his psycho sh*t they can just cut him right away. Would it be worth the gamble?

  

2 hours ago, hamat711 said:

Honestly, it's not the worst idea.

The WRs are bad, and the depth is awful. Can this group even sustain 1 injury without turning into the 2019 Eagles?

You need to know what you have in Darnold and it's unlikely this WR group can give you a fair evaluation.

If you sign AB for 1 year, atleast you will get to know the truth about Darnold. If he does well with AB, you can continue your investment in Darnold. If he somehow learned to behave with his year off, you could also resign him.

 

 

He's not playing a single down in 2020 even if someone signs him.  He'll spend the season on the Commissioner's Exempt List.

Goodell sent a letter to all NFL teams basically telling them not to sign him.  And then Brown got in more off the field trouble AFTER that.  That's why no one has signed him, nor should they.  

[Jetsfan80]

2 hours ago, rangerous said:

not guilty is not guilty.  i fail to see the difference.  

Not guilty means the prosecution didn't do enough to prove guilt. 

It is not the same as "Innocent".  If it was, they would use the word innocent rather than not guilty.  Innocent means 0 % chance someone committed the crime.  Not guilty usually means about a 0.0 up to something like a 20 % chance.  If the prosecution fails to prove their case beyond reasonable doubt, there's still room in that gap for the person to actually not be innocent at all.

Our legal system is great for anybody who has a lot of money.  If you don't you can face the opposite side of the coin and join a rather long list of people who have been sent to jail or put to death who were later found to be innocent.  Yes, innocent.  As in there was a 0 % chance they committed the crime.  

Your failure to see the difference between "not guilty" and "innocent" is troubling.

[win4ever]

Ah, it's that part of the off-season, where we talk ourselves into lunatics.


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[Jetsfan80]

1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said:

Well, if you're "innocent until proven guilty" and the verdict is "not guilty", isn't that equal to "innocent." 

"Innocent until proven guilty" isn't a phrase used in a true legal setting.  

[David Harris]

Maybe Alshon Jeffrey once he gets cut

[David Harris]

1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said:

If he was bad enough for Roethlisberger that the Steelers dumped him, then why can't being bad for Darnold be a good excuse?  The Steelers paid over $21 Million for him not to play for them.  Do you think that 3rd round pick was that important?

Big Ben is actually more douchey than AB because he doesn’t have schizophrenia as an excuse 

[Greenseed4]

Remember on Hard Knocks when AB wanted to arrive to training camp in a hot-air balloon, the pilot was educating him on size and logistics...

P: ”that’s close to 100,000 cubic feet of air space, meaning you could fit 100,000 basketballs in there”

AB: ”Really?! Have you done that?”

P: ”uhhh, no”

AB: ”Right right cause they’d just fall out...”

Me: ”uhhh”

[jetstream23]

2 hours ago, slimjasi said:

Incorrect. 

A verdict of "Not Guilty" does not mean that the jury didn't think the defendant did it, it just means the jury didn't think the prosecution proved it's case beyond a reasonable doubt. 

big difference

Agreed.  My point was a simple one...we don't need bad dudes like those on the Jets.  Whether convicted or acquitted of murder, accused or arrested for things including rape, sexual assault, battery and robbery..... I just think we should probably stay away.  In that regard, I put guys like OJ and Antonio in the same category.

[KRL]

This thread can't be serious.  Was all the nonsense that Brown
committed on multiple teams totally forgotten???  We brought
in a 37 year old RB to establish culture, why in the world
would we bring in this nut???

[vic]

This guy turned the Raiders into a circus and after that the Patriots couldn’t wait to get rid of him. Remember the Steelers traded
him for a third round draft pick and people thought the Raiders got a steel. The Steelers knew something about this guy and his mental issues. Douglas who is building the Jets the right way would not even come near this player. The former regime might have and that’s one of the reasons we have a new GM.


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[JoJoTownsell1]

2 hours ago, jetfan39 said:

do you really think JD would sign this guy and undo everything he has done this off season to build a solid locker room?

Probably not, but if you have a strong locker room you generally can support a nutjob here and there.

[Bruce Harper]

[Bruce Harper]

The cat was supposed to be emphatically shaking his head no.

[Jetsfan80]

6 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

Probably not, but if you have a strong locker room you generally can support a nutjob here and there.

We don't have a "strong locker room".  We have one with a lot of new faces and are lacking a homegrown "core".  We even signed a 37 year old RB to add more leadership. 

I don't disagree that maybe a team with an established core COULD maybe rein him in, but not until 2021 the earliest, and not until Brown gets some therapy.  And by then he'll be 33.