Jetsfan80 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 @14 in Green https://www.nfl.com/news/no-1-overall-draft-picks-of-the-2010s-ranked-myles-garrett-3rd No. 1 overall draft picks of the 2010s ranked: Myles Garrett 3rd Ali Bhanpuri DEPUTY EDITOR The Bengals' selection of Joe Burrow with the first overall pick in the 2020 NFL Draft kicked off a new decade of pick analysis, draft grades and prognostications. But before we flip the page onto the next generation of top guys, I thought it'd be fun to look back at each of the No. 1 overall selections of the past decade to see how well they stack up against one another. Using a completely subjective system that weighed career production, peak performance and my own personal preference, I ranked the first overall picks of the 2010s from 10 to 1. The task was particularly tricky to complete considering how unusual the past 12 months have been for the former top picks of the decade: Two are no longer in the league, another two surprisingly remain free agents, and yet another is (wildly) rumored to be on the trade block. So here's an arbitrary ranking you didn't even know you wanted that begins with a career you probably haven't thought about in a minute ... 10. Sam Bradford Drafted: St. Louis Rams, 2010 We lead off with the man who boasts the highest career earnings on this list (for now). Plagued with injuries and inconsistent supporting talent, the twice-traded Bradford (once for a first- and fourth-rounder!) made a living off of promise rather than production. He finished his nine-year career with 103 touchdown passes (tied with Blake Bortles for 24th since 2010) and without a single winning record in any given season (sorry, Bradford Stans, I'm not counting his 2-0 start to the 2017 campaign). Other than winning Offensive Rookie of the Year, Bradford's best effort came with the Vikings in 2016, when he led the league in completion percentage (71.6%) and posted a 20:5 TD-to-INT ratio. And yet Minnesota still went 8-8 and finished third in the NFC North. 9. Eric Fisher Drafted: Kansas City Chiefs, 2013 One of only two first-rounders from the 2013 NFL Draft who's still playing for the team that originally selected them, Fisher has come a long way in his up-and-down seven-year career. The left tackle out of Central Michigan struggled to adapt to the pro game in Year 1, allowing more hurries (35 to 33) and the same number of QB pressures (47) as draft classmate D.J. Fluker (No. 11 overall), despite playing 108 fewer pass-blocking snaps, per PFF. But since grading out as PFF's 97th-best player at his position as a rookie, Fisher has improved steadily season after season -- even earning a Pro Bowl nod in 2018. Although he missed eight games last year because of injury, he showed up when Kansas City needed him most, playing 100 percent of the team's offensive snaps from Week 11 through the Super Bowl, according to Next Gen Stats. 8. Jameis Winston Drafted: Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2015 Winston's reckless regard for protecting the football has made him one of the most entertaining players in the NFL, if not the most frustrating. Last year, he became just the eighth NFL quarterback ever to top 5,000 passing yards in a season. And yet that feat was overshadowed by the fact that he also had 35 giveaways and became the lone member of the notorious 30-30 club (30 TD passes, 30 INTs). Since entering the league in 2015, he has 20 more giveaways than the next closest player (Philip Rivers at 88). Twenty! That number alone is three season's worth of Aaron Rodgers turnovers. Signing with the Saints this offseason could prove to be the reset Winston needs to resurrect his career. If first-hand lessons from an offensive guru and a five-time alum of the 5,000-yard club don't do the trick, will anything? 7. Baker Mayfield Drafted: Cleveland Browns, 2018 I know I wasn't alone in chugging the Kool-Aid on the Browns' offense last summer, expecting the arrival of Odell Beckham Jr. to boost Baker to new heights after his historic rookie season. So much for that prediction ... Well, perhaps positive reinforcement was a mistake on my part. I needed to take a leadership note from the G.O.A.T. and go hard on the 25-year-old. So while I ripped Baker a few times in our weekly QB Index, just know that I was only trying to be like Mike. It was tough love -- a well-meaning push to help the Heisman Trophy winner reach his true potential. I still believe Mayfield has the arm, accuracy, athleticism and relentless confidence to be a winning QB for the Browns. How he rebounds in Year 3, with a new coach and an improved supporting cast, should tell us whether he's more like No. 23 or Scotty B. 6. Jadeveon Clowney Drafted: Houston Texans, 2014 Clowney has been as disruptive a run defender off the edge as anyone we've seen over the past half-decade, but his inability to unleash that same level of chaos against the pass has muddied his overall value in today's NFL. Over the last five seasons, Clowney has graded out 10th or better against the run among edge defenders, per PFF, but ranked 16th in total pressures (250), 17th in hurries (169), 11th in hits (50) and tied for 36th in sacks (31). As fun as his highlights against the run are to watch, crushing running backs isn't what gets you paid in this league -- one of the reasons (in addition to his numerous injuries) the No. 3 overall free agent on NFL.com's Top 101 list hasn't quite found the market he was expecting. Don't get me wrong, the three-time Pro Bowler is still a plus player who has plenty to offer basically any defense in the league. But he ranks in the middle here because he might not even be the fourth-best pass rusher in his draft class. 5. Jared Goff Drafted: Los Angeles Rams, 2016 Where do you rank a guy like Goff, a two-time Pro Bowler who already has a Super Bowl appearance under his belt, but who seemed to regress this past season as the shine wore off of Sean McVay's offense? I have him just ahead of Clowney on this list fsimply because a possible franchise QB is a more valuable asset than a non-pass-rushing pass rusher. Even with last year's subpar showing, Goff has enough pro tape to prove he can make all the difficult throws and be the primary reason the Rams win games -- even if he hasn't always had to be. But with Todd Gurley and Brandin Cooks gone (though, if we're being honest, they were barely present in 2019), the bulk of the Rams' offensive burden now rests on the former Cal passer's shoulders. Luckily for him, he has about $50 million in fully guaranteed money still owed to him to help manage the added scrutiny. 4. Kyler Murray Drafted: Arizona Cardinals, 2019 Although I personally thought Josh Jacobs deserved to win Offensive Rookie of the Year, Murray taking home the prize was more like No Country for Old Men versus There Will Be Blood than it was The King's Speech over The Social Network. (Still such a disgrace.) Murray's uneven Year 1, while littered with growing-pain performances, mostly left me mesmerized by his ability to process information, execute throws and innovate under duress. He already has as many turnover-free starts as Baker Mayfield (8) and as many full seasons with a passer rating of 87 or better as Sam Bradford. Murray played some of his best ball in his two games against the 49ers' stingy defense, notching five total touchdowns against zero turnovers, while completing at least 70 percent of his passes in both contests. With a premier WR coming on board via trade (DeAndre Hopkins) and a first-round-caliber offensive tackle added in the draft (Josh Jones), the soon-to-be 23-year-old has all he needs for a breakout sophomore season. But as you're well aware of by now, I've been let down by a Heisman-winning Oklahoma QB before. 3. Myles Garrett Drafted: Cleveland Browns, 2017 Garrett is a tremendous talent who made an indefensible and dangerous mistake last season that has undoubtedly left a stain on his reputation. How he responds going forward will determine whether the mark is indelible or impermanent. Garrett was putting together a Pro Bowl-worthy campaign prior to his season-ending suspension, ranking in the top 10 among all defenders in hurries (26) and disruptions (40), while tallying the third-most sacks (10) through Week 10, per NGS. I'm of the mindset that Garrett hasn't even come close to reaching his apex, so his spot on this list reflects a healthy dose of past performance and expected production. 2. Andrew Luck Drafted: Indianapolis Colts, 2012 It's hard to believe that Luck played just five and a half seasons in the NFL, considering his impact on the game and the league as a whole. His 33 wins in his first three years -- despite inheriting a flawed team that went 2-14 the season before he arrived -- are as many as Jameis Winston and Sam Bradford had combined during the same span to start their careers. Luck's toughness and big-play ability in the most desperate of moments helped cement his own legacy in The House that Manning Built. Now that we're further removed from the QB's shocking retirement -- and the hysteria his decision incited -- it's a bit easier to appreciate the totality of what he accomplished in such a short amount of time: Four Pro Bowls, four playoff appearances, 2018 Comeback Player of the Year, 2014 passing TDs leader, celebrated teammate and respected opponent. Had he continued on last year and managed to stay healthy, I thought we might see him capture the league MVP, which would've made the decision at No. 1 here even more challenging. 1. Cam Newton Drafted: Carolina Panthers, 2011 Newton authored one of the most dominant seasons I've ever seen by any football player, when he combined for 45 total TDs (35 passing, 10 rushing) against just 14 giveaways in 2015 to blow away the competition for MVP and lead the Panthers to their first Super Bowl appearance in 12 years. I know many soured on the QB after his lack of urgency during that pivotal fumble and his petulant interview postgame, but those few moments don't define an entire season's (and nine-year career's) worth of highlight reels and gasp-inducing performances. While Newton certainly struggled with injuries and faulty mechanics in the 2010s, when healthy, there were years when no other player came close to matching his unique skill set. He gets the nod over Luck in part due to the MVP but also because the top free agent available (I'm amazed by this) still has plenty of time for a second act. I can't wait to see him cash in his receipts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 @Jetsfan80 I just read the article, and it might surprise you but I agree with his assessment of Baker Mayfield. I thought he was very fair. I thought Mayfield had as good a rookie season as any QB has in recent years, but I can't argue that last year he took a step back. I realize on this board it's only acceptable to make excuses for one particular QB (not saying you do it, you don't) so I won't go there with Baker. I've said it a bunch of times here, and I'll say it once more. With the exception of Lamar Jackson, (who you and I both liked a lot coming out) the class of '18 QBs came into the league with a lot of hype, and hasn't exactly set the world on fire.. This is going to be their 3rd year, from this point on excuses are ridiculous. There comes a time when you are what you are, and after this season is over, we'll know all there is to know about these guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 what does it say that 3 no. 1 pick qb's aren't as good as the starting qb's picked in later rounds during the same decade? and in mayfield's case he's not better than allen, jackson or darnold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Yeah. I guess it would be relevant by this point... if he we had drafted him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Baker should be #10, ridiculous to think he's ranked above Eric Fisher who is the leader of the OL on the best offense in Football and Super reigning Champs, and ahead of Jameis Winston who has done 10x more than Mayfield in the league, Jameis is the only player in NFL history to start his career with back to back 4k/20+ TD's seasons and he just threw for 5k and 30 TD's. Both sh*tty Oklahoma QB's should be tied for the worst. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 No Darnold, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gastineau Lives Posted May 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, Warfish said: No Darnold, eh? Number one overall, no? 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 22 minutes ago, Warfish said: No Darnold, eh? I agree with Darnold not being on the list. I still think he will be a top QB in the league but the numbers do not bare out him making the top ten of the decade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jet Nut Posted May 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2020 44 minutes ago, Warfish said: No Darnold, eh? 20 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: I agree with Darnold not being on the list. I still think he will be a top QB in the league but the numbers do not bare out him making the top ten of the decade No. 1 overall draft picks of the 2010s 2 1 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post More Cowbell Posted May 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2020 Just now, Jet Nut said: No. 1 overall draft picks of the 2010s 1 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 49 minutes ago, Warfish said: No Darnold, eh? You picked up on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted May 14, 2020 Author Share Posted May 14, 2020 52 minutes ago, Warfish said: No Darnold, eh? Only # 1 overall picks of the 2010s were ranked. No one else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Warfish said: No Darnold, eh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Only # 1 overall picks of the 2010s were ranked. No one else. Yeah but why let reading comprehension get in the way of I told you so’ing about Sam Darnold? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 There were six other players that stepped over Baker in their fight to prove they were better number one overall picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HessStation Posted May 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2020 Worst rankings I’ve ever seen and not even kidding. I mean who cares but still an awful job. Cam before Luck is the star on top of stupidity 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 1 minute ago, pdxgreen said: There were six other players that stepped over Baker in their fight to prove they were better number one overall picks. In the long run I think Garrett has the best career if he can stay out of trouble Luck quit, Cam is done, Baker and Goff both got exposed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Just now, Philc1 said: In the long run I think Garrett has the best career if he can stay out of trouble Luck quit, Cam is done, Baker and Goff both got exposed I said Herbert will end up a better player than Goff. Took a bunch of sh*t for it among my friends. So you guys can tee off on me too if yah want! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, pdxgreen said: I said Herbert will end up a better player than Goff. Took a bunch of sh*t for it among my friends. So you guys can tee off on me too if yah want! Goff is a soft b-tch He’s a glorified Jay Fiedler without a dominant running game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Goff is a soft b-tch He’s a glorified Jay Fiedler without a dominant running game Saw him at Cal and I wasn't impressed. Knw he'd be able to run an NFL offense but that's it. People are really sleeping on Herbert. When Steichen and Hamilton get some time with him, he'll be something more than he ever was in college. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Luck should be #10. When you draft a QB #1 overall, your expectation is that he would not quit the game after 7 years. The "quitter" factor overrides everything else he did on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted May 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2020 Darnold haters be like: ”OMG, no Darnold!!!!!!” 1 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Luck was the best player on the list, but durability counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, pdxgreen said: Saw him at Cal and I wasn't impressed. Knw he'd be able to run an NFL offense but that's it. People are really sleeping on Herbert. When Steichen and Hamilton get some time with him, he'll be something more than he ever was in college. I’m not crazy about Herbert either tbh I liked Wentz over Goff in that draft. I never understood the hype over Goff and he’s going to have a bad season next yr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, slimjasi said: Luck was the best player on the list, but durability counts. Luck could have been top 10 all time if Grigson didn’t botch multiple drafts and Arians had stayed as his coach 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted May 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, slimjasi said: Darnold haters be like: ”OMG, no Darnold!!!!!!” If there was any way to better expose the Darnold trolls, lol 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, Philc1 said: I’m not crazy about Herbert either tbh I liked Wentz over Goff in that draft. I never understood the hype over Goff and he’s going to have a bad season next Looks at his tape. The throws are there. He went through three coaches, two offensive coordinators, three WR coaches and one WR who was drafted in the seventh round in four seasons. His receivers core lead the Pac-12 in drops regularly and that's why it was screens or play action stuff no more than 10-15 yards. Arroyo's offense never let him go past the markers. It was total ball control by his fourth season because the offense was so limited. And then even that failed in the his second to last game so they let him go in the RB and he wins it on his legs alone. The kid has the ability to be great. He's just never had the coaching. Now whether he develops that at SD. (shrugs.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, slimjasi said: Luck was the best player on the list, but durability counts. Agreed but I cant argue Cam being over him for the durability and results. League MVP, almost an undefeated season and a Super Bowl appearance. The kid had 35 TD's his rookie season, 4k passing. That 2015 season was legit incredible. 35 in the air, 10 on the ground. Cam at his best, was one of the toughest QB's to defend historically, not just the past 10 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Cam had a far better career than Luck. Much better at his peak too. Luck was pretty overrated but had a rough situation. Didn't live up to the hype. Murray being at #4 is laughable. Kid has done nothing yet and along with Baker shouldn't even be listed. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: Cam had a far better career than Luck. Much better at his peak too. Luck was pretty overrated but had a rough situation. Didn't live up to the hype. Murray being at #4 is laughable. Kid has done nothing yet and along with Baker shouldn't even be listed. The basic problem with the list is that it's a couple of years too early to do it justice. We need another few years to see how the 2018-2019 draft classes turn out. Baker/Darnold/Allen/Murray all have the potential to be at the very top of the list or not even make the list at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 I miss Andrew Luck, he was my favorite non-Jet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 1 hour ago, JiF said: Agreed but I cant argue Cam being over him for the durability and results. League MVP, almost an undefeated season and a Super Bowl appearance. The kid had 35 TD's his rookie season, 4k passing. That 2015 season was legit incredible. 35 in the air, 10 on the ground. Cam at his best, was one of the toughest QB's to defend historically, not just the past 10 years. I'm not the biggest Cam guy in the world because I have always found his inaccuracy to be severely limiting, but I agree that his 2015 season was amazing and I also agree that durability puts him above Luck. If you had told Colts fans in early April of 2012 that Luck would be out of the league by 2019, I don't think a single one of them would have drafted him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 2 hours ago, pdxgreen said: Looks at his tape. The throws are there. He went through three coaches, two offensive coordinators, three WR coaches and one WR who was drafted in the seventh round in four seasons. His receivers core lead the Pac-12 in drops regularly and that's why it was screens or play action stuff no more than 10-15 yards. Arroyo's offense never let him go past the markers. It was total ball control by his fourth season because the offense was so limited. And then even that failed in the his second to last game so they let him go in the RB and he wins it on his legs alone. The kid has the ability to be great. He's just never had the coaching. Now whether he develops that at SD. (shrugs.) I have no idea about Herbert. I wouldn’t be shocked if he had a longer better career than Tua due to Tua’s injury problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, Philc1 said: I have no idea about Herbert. I wouldn’t be shocked if he had a longer better career than Tua due to Tua’s injury problems I won't put him on a level of Tua or Burrow. He doesn't have that production. Although I agree he could have a much better career than either... But I am just saying that his college career doesn't belie any huge flaws. He was no worse a prospect than Love was. And draft prognosticators were making every excuse about that guy. Herbert was at a program that was going through more turmoil than it had had in around 25 years and he got caught up in the transition. Herbert really did look like he was turning into a stud early last year but absolutely had no confidence in any of his receivers. Cristobal saw that and was like, "don't worry, we'll go to the Pistol even more next year and grind it out." So his senior year he was put on a leash. Mariota and Harrington both had tons of weapons. Herbert had about three borderline NFL skills players his entire career at Oregon to help him. What saved him was a great OL and a better defense. But he's going to a better situation, (I strangely feel) than those other two guys. So, That may be the difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Do people overrate Murray? Basically all of last year he was listed in the top half of QBs in the league. I thought it was premature but I only watched him once or twice. Is he legit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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