choon328 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 hours ago, AFJF said: Nope. Not loaded in a bag isn't as bad as loaded while driving drunk. Having an unregistered gun in NYC without it loaded is way more serious than unlawful possession of a gun and DWI in texas. In Texas it's a misdemeanor for unlawful possession of a firearm. Up to a year in jail and a $4000 fine. DWI is also a misdemeanor. Combined, the penalty for the DWI is doubled but still a misdemeanor, not a felony. A couple of things. He may have had a carry permit for the gun but bc he was drunk he automatically gets the unlawful possession of a firearm charge. That's the way it works in Texas. So it doesn't mean he was carrying the gun illegally. In QW's case, he was carrying it illegally. And yes, having it in a bag that you're wheeling around is considered carrying in NYC. In NYC carrying an unloaded weapon illegally is a felony charge with 1-4 years in prison and a $5000 fine. QW may get his charges reduced to a misdemeanor with a fine but his case is much more serious than Oliver's bc of where they each took place. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 hours ago, AFJF said: This is one competitive dude. No way he was gonna' let Quinnen Williams show him up by just carrying a gun in his luggage. Your move QW. At least Q just made a mistake by evidence of him trying to check the weapon. He didn't show up at the airport drunk with a gun in his possession 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, The Crusher said: This and making sure your out of the truck before you start in on them is a very simple way to avoid a lot of complications. When I get pulled over I open the window, keep my hands over the steering wheel, tell the cop my carry piece in the truck and my license is in my back pocket. Most of the time they make me get out of the truck and put my hands on the hood to search me then search my truck. I’ll get a ticket for whatever I did and go about my way. I’m not sure how drunk he was but the DUI limit is ridiculously low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 hours ago, choon328 said: QW tried to board a flight with a gun. He has Ed Oliver beat They found the gun at the counter because he wanted to check it. He didn't try to board the plane with it. Get your facts straight 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 minute ago, More Cowbell said: At least Q just made a mistake by evidence of him trying to check the weapon. He didn't show up at the airport drunk with a gun in his possession Oliver had an open beer in between his legs when he got pulled over and the tests indicated he was high on something other than alcohol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post choon328 Posted May 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2020 Breaking News Texas and NYC do NOT have the same gun laws 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Oliver will most likely be out for that week 1 game. Our new offensive line should have no problem pushing those guys around 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Eaton Beaver said: What is the matter with these players? Doesn't the NFL have in place a system where the player can get a ride anytime. It is just unfathomable to see anyone get in a car and drive after drinking. especially with a gun in the car, very bad judgement. Young guy making a lot of money who has a bright future as a pro. He feels invincible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Oliver had an open beer in between his legs when he got pulled over and the tests indicated he was high on something other than alcohol Ok, that is much better than being drunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, choon328 said: Breaking News Texas and NYC do NOT have the same gun laws Regardless, Oliver deserves at least a 4 game suspension which is what Herndon got 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, DetroitRed said: Q may get off without a suspension. It was his legal gun. Oliver is in a heap. I’m thinking 6 games minimum. DWI and illegal gun. Damn Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app I'm thinking 8. Every idiot will get in a car and drive while under the influence but doing it while having an illegal concealed weapon in your car? I mean this guy might do jail time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Having an unregistered gun in NYC without it loaded is way more serious than unlawful possession of a gun and DWI in texas. In Texas it's a misdemeanor for unlawful possession of a firearm. Up to a year in jail and a $4000 fine. DWI is also a misdemeanor. Combined, the penalty for the DWI is doubled but still a misdemeanor, not a felony. A couple of things. He may have had a carry permit for the gun but bc he was drunk he automatically gets the unlawful possession of a firearm charge. That's the way it works in Texas. So it doesn't mean he was carrying the gun illegally. In QW's case, he was carrying it illegally. And yes, having it in a bag that you're wheeling around is considered carrying in NYC. In NYC carrying an unloaded weapon illegally is a felony charge with 1-4 years in prison and a $5000 fine. QW may get his charges reduced to a misdemeanor with a fine but his case is much more serious than Oliver's bc of where they each took place.The issue here is what the league thinks of these 2 situations. You have to have your head up your ass , if you think Q’s situation is worse. Q is likely to get fined or miss a game. DWI alone is 2 games Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted May 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, choon328 said: Breaking News Texas and NYC do NOT have the same gun laws This is inconsequential to the NFL. I think any reasonable person would recognize that QW was trying to do the right thing, but was clearly ignorant of the laws in NY, while Oliver was knowingly breaking the law and acting recklessly. 7 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, GKnight83 said: You do realize this happened in Texas, right? This is a very common occurrence in that state and he will only get a slap on the wrist. It's very common to drive while intoxicated while having an illegal firearm in your car? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 @JiF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: It's very common to drive while intoxicated while having an illegal firearm in your car? Mo money mo problems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 55 minutes ago, choon328 said: Having an unregistered gun in NYC without it loaded is way more serious than unlawful possession of a gun and DWI in texas. In Texas it's a misdemeanor for unlawful possession of a firearm. Up to a year in jail and a $4000 fine. DWI is also a misdemeanor. Combined, the penalty for the DWI is doubled but still a misdemeanor, not a felony. A couple of things. He may have had a carry permit for the gun but bc he was drunk he automatically gets the unlawful possession of a firearm charge. That's the way it works in Texas. So it doesn't mean he was carrying the gun illegally. In QW's case, he was carrying it illegally. And yes, having it in a bag that you're wheeling around is considered carrying in NYC. In NYC carrying an unloaded weapon illegally is a felony charge with 1-4 years in prison and a $5000 fine. QW may get his charges reduced to a misdemeanor with a fine but his case is much more serious than Oliver's bc of where they each took place. I got a feeling that you and Goodell are going to have a difference of opinion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 36 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: It's very common to drive while intoxicated while having an illegal firearm in your car? Tbh, probably more than we would like to think. I'd guess that far less than half the people doing this at any one time get caught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustEndTheSuffering Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 I don’t understand why it’s so hard to get a legally registered gun. I’m all in favor if he wants to carry a gun for protection, that’s his right but be smart about it. But the gun, get the gun registered and get whatever licenses necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 53 minutes ago, choon328 said: Breaking News Texas and NYC do NOT have the same gun laws We were actually thinking about moving to Texas but it’s changing faster then Florida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prez33 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 “Quinnen Williams? We should’ve taken Ed Oliver! Same Ol’ Jets. We’re gonna regret this”. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, JustEndTheSuffering said: I don’t understand why it’s so hard to get a legally registered gun. I’m all in favor if he wants to carry a gun for protection, that’s his right but be smart about it. But the gun, get the gun registered and get whatever licenses necessary. It’s almost impossible or impossible in some states, countries and cities but if it’s illegal and you want to carry move or run for office and change the unconstitutional laws so you can carry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustEndTheSuffering Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 minute ago, New York Mick said: It’s almost impossible or impossible in some states, countries and cities but if it’s illegal and you want to carry move or run for office and change the unconstitutional laws so you can carry. You can get a concealed carry license in NY state and we have some of the toughest gun laws. No excuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, New York Mick said: We were actually thinking about moving to Texas but it’s changing faster then Florida My daughter lives in Austin and loves it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 31 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: @JiF Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 hours ago, DetroitRed said: It’s a joke you even need a system in place. Where is the system from my boss? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app If only someone would develop an application whereby an individual could book a car ride from their phone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, JustEndTheSuffering said: You can get a concealed carry license in NY state and we have some of the toughest gun laws. No excuses. It’s almost impossible in NY and NJ. There are states that are worse. But you’re right, you can move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prez33 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 As with every situation in which a person breaks the law or otherwise gets in some trouble, the league will look at the specific circumstances in each case. If a player is fully transparent and trying to do the right thing, but simply ignorant of the law, the punishment should reflect that. I’d be surprised if Goodell even suspended him one game. Some type of warning or fine would be more in line with the “crime”. Oliver is in deep doo-doo. There’s no two ways about it. Multiple game suspension coming, as it should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 I believe a DUI is a minimum of a 2 game suspension, add in the illegal firearm and he’s probably looking at a 4 game suspension at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prez33 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, JiF said: Huh? I think he’s laughing at Bills fans who murdered Q after his incident. Not the ugly details of what Oliver did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, choon328 said: Having an unregistered gun in NYC without it loaded is way more serious than unlawful possession of a gun and DWI in texas. In Texas it's a misdemeanor for unlawful possession of a firearm. Up to a year in jail and a $4000 fine. DWI is also a misdemeanor. Combined, the penalty for the DWI is doubled but still a misdemeanor, not a felony. A couple of things. He may have had a carry permit for the gun but bc he was drunk he automatically gets the unlawful possession of a firearm charge. That's the way it works in Texas. So it doesn't mean he was carrying the gun illegally. In QW's case, he was carrying it illegally. And yes, having it in a bag that you're wheeling around is considered carrying in NYC. In NYC carrying an unloaded weapon illegally is a felony charge with 1-4 years in prison and a $5000 fine. QW may get his charges reduced to a misdemeanor with a fine but his case is much more serious than Oliver's bc of where they each took place. wrong. it wasn't properly checked in with the airline. that was what he was arrested for. the weapon was most likely deemed "in transit" and is a lawfully owned gun. i'm a papd police officer - this exact thing happens way more then you would think - reasons i can't understand. this is way less of an issue then driving drunk with a unlawfully owned weapon. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Suspend The Beast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenReaper Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 3 hours ago, SAR I said: Week 1: Jets at Bills HAHAHAHAHA! SAR I Yes indeed... Jets 27 Bills 16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 The NFL is going to rush to open their facilities. These dudes have no idea what to do with themselves during quarantine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 I believe a DUI is a minimum of a 2 game suspension, add in the illegal firearm and he’s probably looking at a 4 game suspension at least. Gotta be more than Herndon Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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