Incentivizing Minority Hiring through Draft Position

[Gastineau Lives]

6 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Steve Wilks gets fired after 1 season and half the board sees no problem with the NFL and race. Laughable.

 

Yeah, I remember when they invented firing a coach after one year just to screw over Steve Wilks.

[predator_05]

Locked in....3...2...1...

[jetsons]

8 hours ago, FiremanEd52 said:

I think it’s a great idea. 70 percent of the players in the league are African American. It’s an absolute joke that there are so few head coaches and GMs. 
 

What’s more infuriating is that guys like Adam Gase immediately get a second chance. 

Really??? well blacks make up about 12% of the country... your logic suggests we Need to reduce the percentage of black players in the NFL to better reflect their population percentage.  Going by your 70%... in the NFL you would Need to reduce that amount by 58% to have the proper 12% population reflection.  I'm sure the black players will be All for that. 

[Kleckineau]

Only when there is a fair number of minority owners will the numbers change. Before then? Nah

[Barry McCockinner]

You think Gase can claim 1/1024th Cherokee and net us a pick?

[Dcat]

7 hours ago, 14 in Green said:

Todd got a fair shake here. 

So did Herm..

The Jets have nothing to explain to anyone when it comes to their hiring practices.

With respect to diversified racial choices, yes, the Jets have nothing to explain, they have done their job.  When it comes to hiring competent staff... well that's a whole other thread.

[NYJ1]

This is the biggest bunch of nonsense that clearly does NOT incentivize minority hiring but instead incentivizes REVERSE RACISM. All this does is the throw the idea of the best man for the job right out the window. It's a lame attempt on the part of Roger Goodell of doubling down on affirmative action. A proven racist policy since it's inception back in the 60's. Does Roger Goodell hate white people?

 

 

[Ben Had]

Well, should help next years draft position for the fin's.

[NYJ1]

8 hours ago, 14 in Green said:

The NFL is incredibly two faced about this, and I’m being kind when I say that. The Rooney Rule, and any changes they make to it, are just window dressing.

 If they really are truly serious about minority opportunity, they’re going about it backward. They aren’t serious though, they just want to look like they are.

If they wanted to really make a difference, start at the top, not at the bottom. Make minority OWNERSHIP the priority, not COACHING positions.

Do that. Then you’ll see change. Don’t hold your breath waiting for it though. Old white rich guys tend to like belonging to clubs with only other old white rich guy members.

 

BS. And you're just as naive as these political correctness idgets out there. So you are assuming that when a black man owns an NFL team that they will ONLY hire other black men to coach their team? In other words we are NOT in control of our racists ways, right? Because humans don't know any better black owners will hire black HC's because they simply don't know any better. Same thing with white owners? What a bunch of nonsense.

What ALL owners do well is make money. They're good at it - hence the reason they own NFL teams. They're smart enough to know if they hire the very best HC possible odds are they will win a lot more games. And guess what? When you win you make MORE money.

NFL owners always want to hire the very best man for the job. Their ethnicity is IRRELEVANT.

[Creepy Lurker]

43 minutes ago, Dcat said:

With respect to diversified racial choices, yes, the Jets have nothing to explain, they have done their job.  When it comes to hiring competent staff... well that's a whole other thread.

The Jets believe in equality. No matter what race or religion, we will find a way to hire the least qualified coaches and GMs. It’s just about finding the person that’s worst for the job and the Jets do it well. They lead the NFL in providing opportunities to idiots of all kind. The only qualification is if the candidate has their head up their *ss. 

[New York Mick]

9 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

 

That this is a problem worth trying to fix. And the response to that here is people frothing at the mouth and yelling about reverse racism.

 

No such thing. Racism is racism 

[JetPotato]

10 hours ago, FiremanEd52 said:

The league should penalize teams for hiring terrible white coaches like Mike Mularkey and Adam Gase. 

You are already penalized for hiring bad coaches with a lack of wins.

[BallinPB]

10 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

 

That this is a problem worth trying to fix. And the response to that here is people frothing at the mouth and yelling about reverse racism.

 

Highly disagree.  If the black coaches are best for the job they will be hired.  The only incentive should be winning and any organization will hire the best coach regardless of skin color to do that.  

[y2k8]

10 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Steve Wilks gets fired after 1 season and half the board sees no problem with the NFL and race. Laughable.

 

I don't know if anyone really knows what happened in Arizona that season. The NFL has a problem creating an adequate supply of minority coaches and it;'s very well possible that Wilkes deserved to be fired after one season.  Both of those things can be true.

Wilkes isn't the first guy to get canned after one season. I'm old enough to remember a promising young coach only getting one year as HC of the Jets.  Pete Carrol went 6-10 and was dumped for Rich Kottite.  Mistakes were made.

As I stated in the other thread about this, if you want to ensure a more opportunities for minority coaches, hit the owners in their wallet. But don't upset the competitive balance of the league.  You're penalizing black players and coaches on teams that may just miss an arbitrary quota.  It makes no sense.

[themeangreenkillingmachine]

6 hours ago, Spoot-Face said:

So...

How about those covid-19 conspiracy theories, eh?

Covid-19 is racist. More racist than NFL owners. Covid-19 prefers black people over white people as hosts. We must get more white people infected to balance the numbers. It’s only fair and least racist thing to do to fix the situation 

[themeangreenkillingmachine]

10 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Steve Wilks gets fired after 1 season and half the board sees no problem with the NFL and race. Laughable.

 

What’s your explanation for Hue Jackson not getting fired after being 1-31 in 2 seasons

[Jetsfan80]

Highly disagree.  If the black coaches are best for the job they will be hired.  The only incentive should be winning and any organization will hire the best coach regardless of skin color to do that.  

 

The best aren’t getting hired. That’s the problem. Bieniemy has been getting groomed for a HC job by Andy Reid like Doug Pederson was but missed out to the likes of Joe Judge? Please.

 

And meanwhile the numbers show that white retread types (like Adam Gase) get second chances at HC jobs much, much easier than black/minority counterparts. Ron Rivera and Hue Jackson of course being notable cases that are the few exceptions, not the rule.

 

It’s a hiring problem AND a pipeline problem. The NFL being a good old boys network shows up in the numbers and really shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone at this point.

 

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

10 hours ago, PCP63 said:

Not enough Mexicans in hockey.