BAD-MOJO_24_ Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Would our fortunes have changed in regards to those back to back AFC championship games? Would we have won it all one of those years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
static14 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 So many time machine threads lately. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, BAD-MOJO_24_ said: Would our fortunes have changed in regards to those back to back AFC championship games? Would we have won it all one of those years? Flacco wasn't that good back then. Most people (even many Baltimore fans) felt he was holding the team back. He really only had 1 lightening in a bottle type run the year they won it all, but that's really it. We don't do any better with Flacco then we did with Sanchez. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, BAD-MOJO_24_ said: Would our fortunes have changed in regards to those back to back AFC championship games? Would we have won it all one of those years? I can say definitively that I don't know. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, BAD-MOJO_24_ said: Would our fortunes have changed in regards to those back to back AFC championship games? Would we have won it all one of those years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAD-MOJO_24_ Posted May 23, 2020 Author Share Posted May 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, King P said: Flacco wasn't that good back then. Most people (even many Baltimore fans) felt he was holding the team back. He really only had 1 lightening in a bottle type run the year they won it all, but that's really it. We don't do any better with Flacco then we did with Sanchez. "Despite rather pedestrian regular season statistics and no Pro Bowl berths as of the 2019 NFL season, Flacco has proven himself as a better performer in the postseason, having established a career playoff record of 10–5 and holding the record for most postseason road victories by a quarterback with seven" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: i think our odds woulda been slightly better... statistically significantly better? it might just barely meet that, depending on what is defined as statiscally significant? 5% ? 10%? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Without a doubt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sackdance Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 29 minutes ago, static14 said: So many time machine threads lately. Just think how many there will be a year from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 27 minutes ago, King P said: Flacco wasn't that good back then. Most people (even many Baltimore fans) felt he was holding the team back. He really only had 1 lightening in a bottle type run the year they won it all, but that's really it. We don't do any better with Flacco then we did with Sanchez. Unless of course he had that playoff run in either 09 or 10 with the Jets Then again if we're changing history maybe he has a 10 year run with the Jets LOL ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 30 minutes ago, static14 said: So many time machine threads lately. Right? And debates about hypothetical outcomes, that don’t consider the butterfly effect or basic logic. People are BORED! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 21 minutes ago, Losmeister said: i think our odds woulda been slightly better... statistically significantly better? it might just barely meet that, depending on what is defined as statiscally significant? 5% ? 10%? Flacco was not that good. He wasn't a difference maker. That SB team was stacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 without looking it up, name one offensive play maker other than Ray Rice that Joe Flacco played with during his career with the Ravens. Now some of the more knowledgeable posters may get some but for the majority here, I'm guessing not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Who knows Sanchez played well overall in both of those games though. It would have been nice if the offense was able to at least move the ball a little bit in the first half in Pittsburgh but he wasn't the issue in those games. Hard to say we win with Flacco. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 I think our window would’ve been longer than just those 2 years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 37 minutes ago, peebag said: without looking it up, name one offensive play maker other than Ray Rice that Joe Flacco played with during his career with the Ravens. Now some of the more knowledgeable posters may get some but for the majority here, I'm guessing not. Steve Smith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, BAD-MOJO_24_ said: Would our fortunes have changed in regards to those back to back AFC championship games? Would we have won it all one of those years? He would have been out of the league by 2014. REX would have ruined the kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, King P said: Flacco wasn't that good back then. Most people (even many Baltimore fans) felt he was holding the team back. He really only had 1 lightening in a bottle type run the year they won it all, but that's really it. We don't do any better with Flacco then we did with Sanchez. With a TOP coach, top GM that built the team around him. We would have thrown him to the wolves and drafted safeties, linemen and left him exposed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanShawn Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 thats ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, BAD-MOJO_24_ said: Would our fortunes have changed in regards to those back to back AFC championship games? Would we have won it all one of those years? Flacco was awesome in his 2012 SB run but early on Sanchez was a much better postseason QB so no. What stopped the Jets from winning in those years was the D not showing up in AFC Championship Games 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, peebag said: without looking it up, name one offensive play maker other than Ray Rice that Joe Flacco played with during his career with the Ravens. Now some of the more knowledgeable posters may get some but for the majority here, I'm guessing not. Anquan boldin Derrick Mason Steve Smith Todd Heap Torrey Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, BAD-MOJO_24_ said: Would our fortunes have changed in regards to those back to back AFC championship games? Would we have won it all one of those years? Flacco won a playoff game going 4-10 for 34 yards. The real question is do we win a SB with Sanchez and the Ravens D? I think so. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, nyjunc said: Anquan boldin Derrick Mason Steve Smith Todd Heap Torrey Smith Not that impressive considering their time in Baltimore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 2 hours ago, peebag said: Not that impressive considering their time in Baltimore If you say so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 5 hours ago, BAD-MOJO_24_ said: Would our fortunes have changed in regards to those back to back AFC championship games? Would we have won it all one of those years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 4 hours ago, southparkcpa said: He would have been out of the league by 2014. REX would have ruined the kid. Like he ruined him in Baltimore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 3 hours ago, nyjunc said: Flacco won a playoff game going 4-10 for 34 yards. The real question is do we win a SB with Sanchez and the Ravens D? I think so. And Flacco threw for 240 and 3TDs at Foxboro vs the cheating Patriots and Belichick’s vaunted defense your point? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 5 hours ago, BAD-MOJO_24_ said: Would our fortunes have changed in regards to those back to back AFC championship games? Would we have won it all one of those years? I would have been one of the happiest fat people you have ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 6 hours ago, peebag said: without looking it up, name one offensive play maker other than Ray Rice that Joe Flacco played with during his career with the Ravens. Now some of the more knowledgeable posters may get some but for the majority here, I'm guessing not. Torrey Smith, Boldin, Pitta. Just felt like playing lol. *EDIT* @nyjunc beat me to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 12 hours ago, Philc1 said: And Flacco threw for 240 and 3TDs at Foxboro vs the cheating Patriots and Belichick’s vaunted defense your point? That was his SB season in 2012, we were discussing him with us in the years we made the AFC Championship Game. Flacco wasn't very good the first few playoff runs, mark was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 16 hours ago, nyjunc said: Flacco won a playoff game going 4-10 for 34 yards. You're literally the same guy who gives Sanchez credit for beating the Chargers going 12-23 for 100 yards. The reality is the 2008-10 Ravens and 2009-10 Jets were mirror images of each other -- Hell, in 2009 and 2010 the Flacco led Ravens ultimately lost to the same teams the Jets lost to just one round earlier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: You're literally the same guy who gives Sanchez credit for beating the Chargers going 12-23 for 100 yards. The reality is the 2008-10 Ravens and 2009-10 Jets were mirror images of each other -- Hell, in 2009 and 2010 the Flacco led Ravens ultimately lost to the same teams the Jets lost to just one round earlier. Sanchez didn't attempt a pass after they went up 17-7 and non a close game he made HUGE plays. Baltimore scored 33 in a blowout with Flacco completing 4 passes. Joe and mark (and Eli) were similar, Baltimore and NYG kept adding talent for their young QBs and the Jets did not. That was the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, nyjunc said: Sanchez didn't attempt a pass after they went up 17-7 and non a close game he made HUGE plays. Baltimore scored 33 in a blowout with Flacco completing 4 passes. Joe and mark (and Eli) were similar, Baltimore and NYG kept adding talent for their young QBs and the Jets did not. That was the difference. No, the difference is that Eli Manning and Joe Flacco were much better QBs who played for a long time and had successful careers and Mark Sanchez was never good and is now out of football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 58 minutes ago, nyjunc said: That was his SB season in 2012, we were discussing him with us in the years we made the AFC Championship Game. Flacco wasn't very good the first few playoff runs, mark was. I don’t know if Mark was “very good” in playoff games. He was good and certainly better in playoff games on the road then he would be in a regular season home game facing the bills or dolphins like I said before Mark was the rare player who was actually better in an intensely high pressure situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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