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OK... Here is a fun exercise.

Since there has been about a thousand threads about putting together the ALL TIME JETS TEAM... 

Help me assemble the worst of the worst starters the Jets ever fielded at every position.    I've got a few players in mind, but lots of holes that I'm SURE some in here can help with...

To make the team, the player has to have started for the Jets at least a few games. No obscure players, please

OFFENSE

QB: Brooks Bollinger

WR1: Steven Hill

WR2: Justin "McDroppins" McCareins

RB: Nuu Faaola

FB: The Terminator

TE: Chris Dressel

C

G1: Adrian Clarke

G2

T1 Anthony Clement, 

T2

DEFENSE

CB: Lito Shephard 

CB: Carl Howard (Mr. "PI")

SS: Eric Smith (I dare you do improve on that)

FS:

LB1: Anthony Schlagel

LB2: 

LB3

DE1

DE2

DT1

DT2

SPECIAL TEAMS

K: Doug Brien 

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4 minutes ago, THE BARON said:

OK... Here is a fun exercise.

Since there has been about a thousand threads about putting together the ALL TIME JETS TEAM... 

Help me assemble the worst of the worst starters the Jets ever fielded at every position.    I've got a few players in mind, but lots of holes that I'm SURE some in here can help with...

To make the team, the player has to have started for the Jets at least a few games. No obscure players, please

OFFENSE

QB: Brooks Bollinger

WR1: Steven Hill

WR2: Justin "McDroppins" McCareins

RB: Nuu Faaola

FB: The Terminator

TE: Chris Dressel

C

G1: Adrian Clarke

G2

T1 Anthony Clement, 

T2 WAYNE HUNTER

DEFENSE

CB: Lito Shephard 

CB: Carl Howard (Mr. "PI")

SS: Eric Smith (I dare you do improve on that)

FS:

LB1: Anthony Schlagel

LB2: 

LB3

DE1

DE2

DT1

DT2

SPECIAL TEAMS

K: Doug Brien 

P

Going to add one I forgot about.  Wayne Hunter

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4 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

How is Bollinger worse than Petty or Falk?

Surely Bubby Brister's glorious shovel pass get's him on that QB short list?

 

Browning Nagle for anyone who can remember him, has to be top three on the Jets list of most stupefying QBs.

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3 minutes ago, Gangrene said:

Surely Bubby Brister's glorious shovel pass get's him on that QB short list?

 

Browning Nagle for anyone who can remember him, has to be top three on the Jets list of most stupefying QBs.

Not fair.  Nagle actually had one good game

 

Petty and Falk did nothing but stink

 

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11 minutes ago, Gangrene said:

Everett McIver at left tackle might be a candidate for your list. In 1995, he faced Bruce Smith and in a play that was ruled a false start. McIver whiffed on the play, Smith hit Boomer Esiason knocking him out with a concussion that caused him to miss the next six weeks. He started three more games before a concussion meant he missed the Patriots match up. Five more games to end out the season were on special teams only and that was the glorious closure to Everett McIver's career with the New York Jets.

Everett McIver had an even more memorable incident than the one involving Bruce Smith. In 1998 McIver was still barely knocking around the league, this time he signed as a free agent with the those ranch hands in Arlington, Texas.  During training camp when tempers fray in high humidity, Michael Irvin (yeah, that Michael Irvin) 'allegedly' inflicted a two-inch cut in the neck of McIver with a pair of barber's scissors after apparently arguing over which of the two would get their hair cut first, while some team members were also in the room. McIver did not press charges, and it was rumored that Irvin paid a six-figure settlement with him to drop the matter.

Wow, I never heard that Irvin story. That is insane. 

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2 minutes ago, Irish Jet said:

Bollinger done relatively well given the situation he walked into, even if he did look eleven years old.

Bollonger sucked but at least he deserved to be on an nfl roster even if just as a third stringer 

 

Petty and Falk should have never been in the nfl

 

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54 minutes ago, Gangrene said:

Everett McIver at left tackle might be a candidate for your list. In 1995, he faced Bruce Smith and in a play that was ruled a false start. McIver whiffed on the play, Smith hit Boomer Esiason knocking him out with a concussion that caused him to miss the next six weeks. He started three more games before a concussion meant he missed the Patriots match up. Five more games to end out the season were on special teams only and that was the glorious closure to Everett McIver's career with the New York Jets.

Everett McIver had an even more memorable incident than the one involving Bruce Smith. In 1998 McIver was still barely knocking around the league, this time he signed as a free agent with the those ranch hands in Arlington, Texas.  During training camp when tempers fray in high humidity, Michael Irvin (yeah, that Michael Irvin) 'allegedly' inflicted a two-inch cut in the neck of McIver with a pair of barber's scissors after apparently arguing over which of the two would get their hair cut first, while some team members were also in the room. McIver did not press charges, and it was rumored that Irvin paid a six-figure settlement with him to drop the matter.

These are the kinds of guys I expected.  

OTOH, I don't blame the player, I blame the coach.  Even the sh*ttiest fringe NFL player is such a monster that it seems wrong to denigrate them when I am such a stud athlete.  McIver was a D2 defensive lineman at Elizabeth City State.  He was signed as a UDFA Dlineman in his first camp and bounced around.  His 2nd or 3rd team decided to convert him to offensive line.  He spent time on a practice squad and near the end of his rookie year the Jets poached him.  The Jets spent a year developing him.  In his 3rd year, WIllig got hurt and Kotite threw him out there at LT.   Literally everything about the guy screamed G, but Kotite put him at LT and didn't bother to give him much help.  The results were predictable.  

To his credit, McIVer went to the world league and had a few credible seasons with the Dolphins and Cowboys playing guard.  His career trajectory could have been towards Brandon Moore if he weren't so poorly handled.

Similarly, Vance Joesph at CB was the expected submission.  He was a college QB at Colorado.  The Jets converted him to CB and during his rookie year, in what I believe was his frrst game action, threw him on TIm Brown.   I think Brown (8/156/2TDs) said "That was not a good decision" in the interviews after the game.  He kicked around a year or two and then went into coaching eventually becoming the recently fired HC of the Broncos.  I think he is DC of the Cards now. 

A few of the guys the OP lists were part of the #1 D in the NFL.  For C the obvious answer is an injured Spencer Long, but that is another thing that is as much coaches decision as talent issue.  Maybe Kalil.  He wasn't any better and didn't have the injury excuse.

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41 minutes ago, mrcoops said:

Tony Stargell deserves a spot at CB. Worst corner I ever saw start for the Jets.

YES !! And I remember him saying in an interview for the NYT that felt he had the ability to be the best CB in the league.

Stargell gets the nod with flying colors

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3 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

These are the kinds of guys I expected.  

OTOH, I don't blame the player, I blame the coach.  Even the sh*ttiest fringe NFL player is such a monster that it seems wrong to denigrate them when I am such a stud athlete.  McIver was a D2 defensive lineman at Elizabeth City State.  He was signed as a UDFA Dlineman in his first camp and bounced around.  His 2nd or 3rd team decided to convert him to offensive line.  He spent time on a practice squad and near the end of his rookie year the Jets poached him.  The Jets spent a year developing him.  In his 3rd year, WIllig got hurt and Kotite threw him out there at LT.   Literally everything about the guy screamed G, but Kotite put him at LT and didn't bother to give him much help.  The results were predictable.  

To his credit, McIVer went to the world league and had a few credible seasons with the Dolphins and Cowboys playing guard.  His career trajectory could have been towards Brandon Moore if he weren't so poorly handled.

Similarly, Vance Joesph at CB was the expected submission.  He was a college QB at Colorado.  The Jets converted him to CB and during his rookie year, in what I believe was his frrst game action, threw him on TIm Brown.   I think Brown (8/156/2TDs) said "That was not a good decision" in the interviews after the game.  He kicked around a year or two and then went into coaching eventually becoming the recently fired HC of the Broncos.  I think he is DC of the Cards now. 

A few of the guys the OP lists were part of the #1 D in the NFL.  For C the obvious answer is an injured Spencer Long, but that is another thing that is as much coaches decision as talent issue.

Now I'm inspired to discuss the worst coaches and managers in Jets history.  You have another long and distinguished list there too

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What ?? No Kyle "Step Behind" Wilson at CB? One of the worst I can remember.

At least Kyle Brady played. Jace Amaro was a real disaster.

Looking back, I had forgotten how lousy a shopper Tuna was. Great coach, horrible drafter. So many guys who played a handful of games and then were gone. A few (like Farrior) who played, but elsewhere.

Jets drafts over history

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3 minutes ago, Bungaman said:

What ?? No Kyle "Step Behind" Wilson at CB? One of the worst I can remember.

At least Kyle Brady played. Jace Amaro was a real disaster.

Looking back, I had forgotten how lousy a shopper Tuna was. Great coach, horrible drafter. So many guys who played a handful of games and then were gone. A few (like Farrior) who played, but elsewhere.

Jets drafts over history

BINGO ! We have our CB tandem.  Stargell and Kyle Wilson.  Done deal.

Now we need the worst FS to pair with Eric Smith at SS and our defensive backfield will be *COMPLETE*

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32 minutes ago, Bungaman said:

What ?? No Kyle "Step Behind" Wilson at CB? One of the worst I can remember.

At least Kyle Brady played. Jace Amaro was a real disaster.

Looking back, I had forgotten how lousy a shopper Tuna was. Great coach, horrible drafter. So many guys who played a handful of games and then were gone. A few (like Farrior) who played, but elsewhere.

Jets drafts over history

Dorian Boose!!

28 minutes ago, THE BARON said:

BINGO ! We have our CB tandem.  Stargell and Kyle Wilson.  Done deal.

Now we need the worst FS to pair with Eric Smith at SS and our defensive backfield will be *COMPLETE*

Both light years better than the aforementioned Vance Joseph.

Stephen Hill wouldn't even make the team if you limited it to Jets 2nd round draft pick busts.  I submit Ryan Yarborough and Alex Van Dyke. 

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7 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

Dorian Boose!!

Both light years better than the aforementioned Vance Joseph.

Stephen Hill wouldn't even make the team if you limited it to Jets 2nd round draft pick busts.  I submit Ryan Yarborough and Alex Van Dyke. 

YES... BOOSE.... Wasn't he a very high draft pick ??? Second rounder, I think, no ?

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2 hours ago, Gangrene said:

Everett McIver at left tackle might be a candidate for your list. In 1995, he faced Bruce Smith and in a play that was ruled a false start. McIver whiffed on the play, Smith hit Boomer Esiason knocking him out with a concussion that caused him to miss the next six weeks. He started three more games before a concussion meant he missed the Patriots match up. Five more games to end out the season were on special teams only and that was the glorious closure to Everett McIver's career with the New York Jets.

Everett McIver had an even more memorable incident than the one involving Bruce Smith. In 1998 McIver was still barely knocking around the league, this time he signed as a free agent with the those ranch hands in Arlington, Texas.  During training camp when tempers fray in high humidity, Michael Irvin (yeah, that Michael Irvin) 'allegedly' inflicted a two-inch cut in the neck of McIver with a pair of barber's scissors after apparently arguing over which of the two would get their hair cut first, while some team members were also in the room. McIver did not press charges, and it was rumored that Irvin paid a six-figure settlement with him to drop the matter.

i remembe that.  mciver was going on during the lead up week saying he was going deal with bruce smith.

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some more candidates:

QB: 

J.J. Jones, but he only started one game

for a longer term of ineptness, how about Mike Taliaferro and his 39% completion pct. of his Jets career

RB:

Kevan Barlow

George Nock

Lee White

WR:

Kevin Swayne

David Nelson

TE:

Jace Amaro

Gene Heeter

OL:

Gary Puetz

Austin Howard

Darrell Austin

DL:

Billy Newsome

Gordy Holz

LB:

Rich Lewis

DB:

Trumaine Johnson

 

 

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QB:  Christian Hackenberg

QB:  Neil O'Donnell

RB:  Roger Vick

RB:  Blair Thomas

FB:  B.J. Askew

WR:  Justin McCareins

WR:  Alex Van Dyke

WR:  Lam Jones

WR:  Matthew Hatchette

TE:  Doug Jolley

TE:  Johnny Mitchell

OT:  Austin Howard

OT:  Wayne Hunter

G:  Adrian Clarke

G:  Willie Colon

C :  Spencer Long

 

DEFENSE

DE:  Vernon Gholston

DE:  Quinton Coples

DT:  Chester McGlockton

DT:  Kimo Von Oelhoffen

OLB:  Jachai Polite

OLB:  Lorenzo Mauldin

ILB:  Sam Cowart

ILB:  Anthony Schlegel

CB:  Trumaine Johnson

CB:  Aaron Beasley

CB:  Kyle Wilson

CB:  Dee Milliner

FS:  Damien Robinson

SS:  Calvin Pryor

 

SPECIAL TEAMS

K:  Pat Leahy

P:  Toby Gowin

KR:  Bruce Harper

PR:  Leon Johnson

Punt Protection Specialist:  Tim Tebow

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