Assemble The Startting Line Up Of The Worst At Every Position

[Philc1]

Just now, Jetsfan80 said:

QB:  Christian Hackenberg

QB:  Neil O'Donnell

RB:  Roger Vick

RB:  Blair Thomas

FB:  B.J. Askew

WR:  Justin McCareins

WR:  Alex Van Dyke

WR:  Lam Jones

WR:  Matthew Hatchette

TE:  Doug Jolley

TE:  Johnny Mitchell

LT:  Ryan Clady

RT:  Wayne Hunter

G:  Adrian Clarke

G:  Willie Colon

C :  Spencer Long

 

DEFENSE

DE:  Vernon Gholston

DE:  Quinton Coples

DT:  Chester McGlockton

DT:  Kimo Von Oelhoffen

OLB:  Jachai Polite

OLB:  Lorenzo Mauldin

ILB:  Sam Cowart

ILB:  Anthony Schlegel

CB:  Trumaine Johnson

CB:  Aaron Beasley

CB:  Kyle Wilson

FS:  Damien Robinson

SS:  Calvin Pryor

 

SPECIAL TEAMS

K:  Pat Leahy

P:  Toby Gowin

KR:  Bruce Harper

PR:  Leon Johnson

Punt Protection Specialist:  Tim Tebow

Colon?

[Philc1]

2 hours ago, mrcoops said:

Tony Stargell deserves a spot at CB. Worst corner I ever saw start for the Jets.

Kyle Wilson says hi

[Philc1]

2 hours ago, More Cowbell said:

Wow, I never heard that Irvin story. That is insane. 

Yep and he’s now middle America’s sweetheart 

[pdxgreen]

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[Jetpain]

dont forget the legendary Don Boyd Odegard at CB, Dorian Boose or Rick Terry or Ron Faurot on the D line

[#27TheDominator]

1 hour ago, peebag said:

Where's DWC when you need him/her/it?

If only we could find him!  I suggest we look in the OP!

[jeremy2020]

2 hours ago, section314 said:

Never played in a real game.

..but I was told the whole time that didn't matter...

[#27TheDominator]

2 hours ago, THE BARON said:

YES... BOOSE.... Wasn't he a very high draft pick ??? Second rounder, I think, no ?

He was Hugh Douglas.  That fat **** traded Hugh Douglas for Boose.  Well really he traded Hugh Douglas for a 2nd and the Casey Dailey pick. Then he traded down in the second, got Boose, Kevin Williams, and Eric Bateman.  Then he paid lip service to the importance of pass rush. 

[mrcoops]

1 hour ago, Philc1 said:

Kyle Wilson says hi

He's in the slot, trailing 10 yards behind the guy he's covering.

[Hael]

Our starters are indeed impressive, but we have unrivaled depth.

[THE BARON]

59 minutes ago, Jetpain said:

dont forget the legendary Don Boyd Odegard at CB, Dorian Boose or Rick Terry or Ron Faurot on the D line

Right... Odegard.  I remember he was the fastest guy on the roster in the 40 and had ZERO coverage skills to go along with it,  

[THE BARON]

1 hour ago, The Crimson King said:

some more candidates:

QB: 

J.J. Jones, but he only started one game

for a longer term of ineptness, how about Mike Taliaferro and his 39% completion pct. of his Jets career

RB:

Kevan Barlow

George Nock

Lee White

WR:

Kevin Swayne

David Nelson

TE:

Jace Amaro

Gene Heeter

OL:

Gary Puetz

Austin Howard

Darrell Austin

DL:

Billy Newsome

Gordy Holz

LB:

Rich Lewis

DB:

Trumaine Johnson

 

 

Holey smokes.  That list makes me feel good when I think of the current Jets roster,  

[ljr]

4 hours ago, Gangrene said:

humidity, Michael Irvin (yeah, that Michael Irvin) 'allegedly' inflicted a two-inch cut in the neck of McIver with a pair of barber's scissors after apparently arguing over which of the two would get their hair cut first, while some team members were also in the room. McIver did not press charges, and it was rumored that Irvin paid a six-figure settlement with him to drop the matter.

 

I'll choose barber shears to the jugular for 100K please Alex !

[peekskill68]

5 hours ago, More Cowbell said:

How did Hack not make the list?

Notable ommisions

Johnny  Lame Jone, Bryan Thomas, Vernon Gholston,  Dave Cadigan, Kyle Brady. 

JMO, Bryan Thomas and Brady don't belong on an all-time worst PLAYER list.  They definitely belong on an all-time worst DRAFT list considering Ed Reed followed Thomas and Sapp followed Brady.  

[Jets0712]

BINGO ! We have our CB tandem.  Stargell and Kyle Wilson.  Done deal.
Now we need the worst FS to pair with Eric Smith at SS and our defensive backfield will be *COMPLETE*

Scott Frost.


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[Barry McCockinner]

6 hours ago, THE BARON said:

OK... Here is a fun exercise.

Since there has been about a thousand threads about putting together the ALL TIME JETS TEAM... 

Help me assemble the worst of the worst starters the Jets ever fielded at every position.    I've got a few players in mind, but lots of holes that I'm SURE some in here can help with...

To make the team, the player has to have started for the Jets at least a few games. No obscure players, please

OFFENSE

QB: Brooks Bollinger

WR1: Steven Hill

WR2: Justin "McDroppins" McCareins

RB: Nuu Faaola

FB: The Terminator

TE: Chris Dressel

C

G1: Adrian Clarke

G2

T1 Anthony Clement, 

T2

DEFENSE

CB: Lito Shephard 

CB: Carl Howard (Mr. "PI")

SS: Eric Smith (I dare you do improve on that)

FS:

LB1: Anthony Schlagel

LB2: 

LB3

DE1

DE2

DT1

DT2

SPECIAL TEAMS

K: Doug Brien 

P

This is a "fun exercise" like running suicides at the end of the second practice of double sessions on the hottest August day. In short, EAD.

[Jetsfan80]

Here's the "All-Bust" roster:

• QB:  Browning Nagle
• QB:  Christian Hackenberg
• RB:  Roger Vick
• RB:  Blair Thomas
• RB:  Shonn Greene
• FB:  B.J. Askew
• WR:  Lam Jones
• WR:  Alex Van Dyke
• WR:  Ryan Yarborough
• WR:  Reggie Rembert
• WR:  ArDarius Stewart
• TE:  Johnny Mitchell
• TE:  Kyle Brady
• TE:  Jace Amaro
• OT:  John Mooring
• OT:  Doug Williams
• OT:  Gordie Browne
• OT:  Vlad Ducasse
• G:  Dave Cadigan
• G:  David Loverne
• G:  Mike Haight
• C :  Paul Seiler
• DE:  Vernon Gholston
• DE:  Quinton Coples
• DT:  Dewayne Robertson
• DT:  Rick Terry
• NT:  Kenrick Ellis
• DL:  Dorian Boose
• DL:  Coleman Rudolph
• DL:  Ron Faurot
• OLB:  Jachai Polite
• OLB:  Lorenzo Mauldin
• ILB:  Darron Lee
• ILB:  Anthony Schlegel
• LB:  Mark Merrill
• LB:  Kurt Barber
• CB:  Kyle Wilson
• CB:  Dee Milliner
• CB:  Derrick Strait
• CB:  Justin Miller
• CB:  Terry Williams
• FS:  Jon McGraw
• SS:  Calvin Pryor
• S:  Scott Frost
• K:  Mike Nugent
• P:  Mike Rice
• KR:  Jo-Jo Townsell
• PR:  Dedric Ward

[TuscanyTile2]

Greg McElroy deserves consideration.

[TuscanyTile2]

5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Here's the "All-Bust" roster:

• QB:  Browning Nagle
• QB:  Christian Hackenberg
• RB:  Roger Vick
• RB:  Blair Thomas
• RB:  Shonn Greene
• FB:  B.J. Askew
• WR:  Lam Jones
• WR:  Alex Van Dyke
• WR:  Ryan Yarborough
• WR:  Reggie Rembert
• WR:  ArDarius Stewart
• TE:  Johnny Mitchell
• TE:  Kyle Brady
• TE:  Jace Amaro
• OT:  John Mooring
• OT:  Doug Williams
• OT:  Gordie Browne
• OT:  Vlad Ducasse
• G:  Dave Cadigan
• G:  David Loverne
• G:  Mike Haight
• C :  Paul Seiler
• DE:  Vernon Gholston
• DE:  Quinton Coples
• DT:  Dewayne Robertson
• DT:  Rick Terry
• NT:  Kenrick Ellis
• DL:  Dorian Boose
• DL:  Coleman Rudolph
• DL:  Ron Faurot
• OLB:  Jachai Polite
• OLB:  Lorenzo Mauldin
• ILB:  Darron Lee
• ILB:  Anthony Schlegel
• LB:  Mark Merrill
• LB:  Kurt Barber
• CB:  Kyle Wilson
• CB:  Dee Milliner
• CB:  Derrick Strait
• CB:  Justin Miller
• CB:  Terry Williams
• FS:  Jon McGraw
• SS:  Calvin Pryor
• S:  Scott Frost
• K:  Mike Nugent
• P:  Mike Rice
• KR:  Dedric Ward
• PR:  Jo-Jo Townsell

Shonn Greene, Dedric Ward and Jo-Jo Townsell?  None of them belong on this list.

[Jetsfan80]

5 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Shonn Greene, Dedric Ward and Jo-Jo Townsell?  None of them belong on this list.

Of course they do.  Shonn Greene was drafted in the 3rd round and got to run behind the best OL in the NFL.  Result?  A paltry 4.1 ypc and a guy who looked like he'd just been shot every time he got up from the pile.  

Ward and Townsell, on a yardage per return basis, were 2 of the worst return men in Jets history.  Not good enough for 3rd round picks who brought nothing or very little to the table as WRs.  What return men were drafted higher and disappointed more?  Justin Miller, I suppose, but I put him in the CB pile.

[Bronxville Jets Fan]

Definitely Kyle Wilson for CB.

I’m surprised no one remembers how bad Caleb Schlauderaff was at center.  Wayne Hunter has to be included with him on the OL.

How can anyone dispute that Hackenberg was the worst QB this franchise ever had?  He was a mid second rounder and never saw the field — that’s unheard of!

[Thor99]

6 hours ago, mrcoops said:

Tony Stargell deserves a spot at CB. Worst corner I ever saw start for the Jets.

Vance Joseph

[TuscanyTile2]

3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Of course they do.  Shonn Greene was drafted in the 3rd round and got to run behind the best OL in the NFL.  Result?  A paltry 4.1 ypc and a guy who looked like he'd just been shot every time he got up from the pile.  

Ward and Townsell, on a yardage per return basis, were 2 of the worst return men in Jets history.  Not good enough for 3rd round picks who brought nothing or very little to the table as WRs.  What return men were drafted higher and disappointed more?  Justin Miller, I suppose, but I put him in the CB pile.

4.1 ypc is absolutely not paltry so I still wouldn't put Shonn Greene on the list.  But I guess I screwed up with Ward and Townsell since I just realized you're evaluating them only in their KR and PR duties (rather than as overall players).

As for Justin Miller, didn't he have a couple of KR TDs?

[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

4.1 ypc is absolutely not paltry so I still wouldn't put Shonn Greene on the list.  But I guess I screwed up with Ward and Townsell since I just realized you're evaluating them only in their KR and PR duties (rather than as overall players).

As for Justin Miller, didn't he have a couple of KR TDs?

Yep, Hence why I put him in the CB group, not KR/PR group.

[Jetsfan80]

5 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

4.1 ypc is absolutely not paltry so I still wouldn't put Shonn Greene on the list. 

It's not just the YPC, which was indeed paltry given the OL he was paired with.  It's that he offered nothing in the passing game too.

RB is a plug n play position.  Burning an early 3rd rounder on Greene and getting that little productivity sucks.  He also didn't stick on another team after he left.  He had 5 starts over 2 seasons for the Titans and then was out of the league.

[Bronxville Jets Fan]

9 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Of course they do.  Shonn Greene was drafted in the 3rd round and got to run behind the best OL in the NFL.  Result?  A paltry 4.1 ypc and a guy who looked like he'd just been shot every time he got up from the pile.  

Ward and Townsell, on a yardage per return basis, were 2 of the worst return men in Jets history.  Not good enough for 3rd round picks who brought nothing or very little to the table as WRs.  What return men were drafted higher and disappointed more?  Justin Miller, I suppose, but I put him in the CB pile.

Shonn Green was a lot of fun to watch during his rookie year.  He had some big runs and was a great 1-2 punch with T Jones that helped get us into the playoffs.

[Beerfish]

23 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Here's the "All-Bust" roster:

• QB:  Browning Nagle
• QB:  Christian Hackenberg
• RB:  Roger Vick
• RB:  Blair Thomas
• RB:  Shonn Greene
• FB:  B.J. Askew
• WR:  Lam Jones
• WR:  Alex Van Dyke
• WR:  Ryan Yarborough
• WR:  Reggie Rembert
• WR:  ArDarius Stewart
• TE:  Johnny Mitchell
• TE:  Kyle Brady
• TE:  Jace Amaro
• OT:  John Mooring
• OT:  Doug Williams
• OT:  Gordie Browne
• OT:  Vlad Ducasse
• G:  Dave Cadigan
• G:  David Loverne
• G:  Mike Haight
• C :  Paul Seiler
• DE:  Vernon Gholston
• DE:  Quinton Coples
• DT:  Dewayne Robertson
• DT:  Rick Terry
• NT:  Kenrick Ellis
• DL:  Dorian Boose
• DL:  Coleman Rudolph
• DL:  Ron Faurot
• OLB:  Jachai Polite
• OLB:  Lorenzo Mauldin
• ILB:  Darron Lee
• ILB:  Anthony Schlegel
• LB:  Mark Merrill
• LB:  Kurt Barber
• CB:  Kyle Wilson
• CB:  Dee Milliner
• CB:  Derrick Strait
• CB:  Justin Miller
• CB:  Terry Williams
• FS:  Jon McGraw
• SS:  Calvin Pryor
• S:  Scott Frost
• K:  Mike Nugent
• P:  Mike Rice
• KR:  Jo-Jo Townsell
• PR:  Dedric Ward

I take issue with some of these:

Shonne Green had some moments and a few big ones in the playoffs.

Vlad Ducasse was in the league for like 10 years,

Quinton coples has something like 16-17 career sacks.

Justin miller was a pro bowl kick returner one year if i am not mistaken.

I said it in another thread, to me there is a difference between a disappointment and a bust.

[Jetsfan80]

2 minutes ago, Bronxville Jets Fan said:

Shonn Green was a lot of fun to watch during his rookie year.  He had some big runs and was a great 1-2 punch with T Jones that helped get us into the playoffs.

Calling him the "2" in a 1-2 punch his rookie year would be an exaggeration.  Thomas Jones had 331 carries in 2009.  Greene had 108.

[Beerfish]

22 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Greg McElroy deserves consideration.

Guy was a 6-7th rounder who the jets threw to the wolves and essentially let him get killed in one game on purpose.

[Jetsfan80]

2 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

I take issue with some of these:

Shonne Green had some moments and a few big ones in the playoffs.

Vlad Ducasse was in the league for like 10 years,

Quinton coples has something like 16-17 career sacks.

Justin miller was a pro bowl kick returner one year if i am not mistaken.

I said it in another thread, to me there is a difference between a disappointment and a bust.

Ducasse may not have been a bust elsewhere, but he was a bust for us.  A 2nd round pick should generate a lot more for the franchise that drafted him.

Yes, Coples had 16.5 sacks for the Jets.  He was also of the league after 4 years.  Not good for a mid-1st rounder.  Who would you pick over Coples at DE?  

[#27TheDominator]

2 hours ago, Philc1 said:

Yep and he’s now middle America’s sweetheart 

 

35 minutes ago, ljr said:

 

I'll choose barber shears to the jugular for 100K please Alex !

 

Quote

The first chapter of Boys Will Be Boys, Jeff Pearlman’s 2008 look at the Cowboys of the 1990s, is titled “Scissors to the Neck.”  It tells the story of the time that Irvin, yes, took scissors to the neck of a teammate.

://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/07/irvin-talks-bullying-without-mentioning-everett-mciver/

America's Sweetheart indeed!

[Mogglez]

OFFENSE

QB: Luke Falk

WR 1: Stephen Hill

WR 2: Clyde Gates

WR 3: Lam Jones

WR 4: Justin McCareins

RB: Roger Vick

FB: Lex Hilliard

TE: Matthew Mulligan

Center: Spencer Long

LG: Adrian Clarke

RG: Vlad Ducasse

LT: Anthony Clement

RT: Wayne Hunter

DEFENSE

CB: Darryl Roberts 

CB: Carl Howard

Slot CB: Kyle Wilson

CB 4: Nate Hairston

SS: Eric Smith

FS: Damien Robinson

LB 1: Anthony Schlegel

LB 2: Darron Lee

OLB 1: Vernon Gholston

OLB 2: Jamaal Westerman

DE 1: Quinton Coples

DE 2: Mike Pennel

DT 1: Dwayne Robertson

DT 2: Kenrick Ellis

SPECIAL TEAMS

K: Kaare Vedvik 

P: Ryan Quigley

[shevys]

4 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

 

 

SPECIAL TEAMS

K:  Pat Leahy

P:  Toby Gowin

KR:  Bruce Harper

PR:  Leon Johnson

Punt Protection Specialist:  Tim Tebow

You lost me here.

[CanadaSteve]

7 hours ago, More Cowbell said:

How did Hack not make the list?

Notable ommisions

Johnny  Lame Jone, Bryan Thomas, Vernon Gholston,  Dave Cadigan, Kyle Brady. 

Bryan Thomas was by FAR not the worst at his position, nor was Kyle Brady.

 

[THE BARON]

4 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said:

This is a "fun exercise" like running suicides at the end of the second practice of double sessions on the hottest August day. In short, EAD.

Well...It makes us feel super good about the current roster, no ??? Almost like we got All-Stars at every position now