The Big "Jamal Officially asks to be traded" Thread

[Big_Slick]

2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

^^^ Another of the "Jamal gets no blame for anything, ever" crowd.

Yes, Douglas should have traded him at the deadline last year for whatever Dallas was offering.  No, that doesn't put the blame on Douglas' shoulders for Adams' behavior.

Jerry wasn't offering anything but a crap deal. No way in hell did he offer a first and a third and if he actually did JD would have jumped on it. We only have Jerry's leak to the media that was the offer and I call Jerry a liar until JD actually acknowledges that was the offer.

[JiF]

2 minutes ago, Dcat said:

LOL.  Blame the fan base.  Every bit of this to the last drop was the fault of one Jamal Narcissist Adams.  No regard for his team.  Not since day 1.  It's all about him.  The Jets are not going to yield to this crap.  F him.  He's a Jet for 2 yrs and then he can go unless someone meets Joe Douglas' demands.  Me... I'd take a 1st and Gallup without blinking an eye.  

 

2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

 Connor Hughes has shown me the light.  I try not to listen to you guys.  I now think Jamal can suck lemons.

[BROOKLYN JET]

 

[T0mShane]

2 minutes ago, JiF said:

 

 Connor Hughes has shown me the light.  I try not to listen to you guys.  I now think Jamal can suck lemons.

@JiF I love you but EAD

[Augustiniak]

9 minutes ago, Jets723 said:

The funny thing is that he isn’t as great as he thinks he is.  He is a very good player but he isn’t the type of player that will help win games, we have seen that for the last three years.  The problem is he has put himself above the team.  

Which is why he wants to go to a good team so he doesn’t have to elevate it. 

[Dcat]

Just now, T0mShane said:

@JiF I love you but EAD

his abject denial is amusing

[Beerfish]

2 hours ago, JiF said:

Honestly, no.  What rubs me the wrong way is that this team finally found an All-Pro player in the draft and between the fans and the front office, they drove him away.  

When people are really good at what they do but completely under appreciated, those people typically look for a new employer. 

This is so wrong it is ridiculous.  The victim card.

Adams is the one that spouted on social media from day one.

Adams is the guy that keeps comparing himself to players not in his league.

Adams is the guy who threw a fit at management re the trade talk last year and then refused to talk to them (a year later he is demanding a trade)

Adams is the guy with zero leverage getting all pissy about a contract.

And yet it is the fans fault and management that he wants out,

what utter bs.

All the personality issues aside I'll be happy if he gets dealt for a good price as at the line SS do not at all move the needle.

 

[JiF]

3 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

@JiF I love you but EAD

I do not want to EAD.  Jamal is being a little bitch and it breaks my heart to say that because I love him with all my heart and soul. 

[JiF]

1 minute ago, Beerfish said:

This is so wrong t is ridiculous.  The victim card.

Adams is the one that spouted on social media from day one.

Adams is the guy that keep comparing himself to layers not in his league.

Adams is the guy who threw a fit at management re the trade talk last year and then refused to talk to them (a year later he is demanding a trade)

Adams is the guy with zero leverage getting all pissy about a contract.

And yet it is the fans fault and management that he wants out,

what utter bs.

All the personality issues aside I'll be happy if he gets dealt for a good price as at the line SS do not at all move the needle.

 

I know Beer, I'm sorry.  This is very hard for me. 

[14 in Green]

8 minutes ago, freestater said:

Sure. Worked out horrible for the Raiders re. Kalil Mack. 

I’ll be the first to tell you I’m wrong if we get a deal like the Raiders did.

I honestly don’t see it happening though.

[JiF]

7 minutes ago, Dcat said:

his abject denial is amusing

I'm not denying it but can you at least take it easy, please?  This is hard for me to accept.  It's like finding out your dog is really a cat.  

[ZachEY]

As I said in the other thread, the ONLY way to have seen this coming was to have even mildly paid attention.

[Jetscode1]

Millionaires versus billionaires.  I say we keep him.  Love me some more Jamal.  Anyone else tired of Covid-19?

[The Crusher]

2 minutes ago, JiF said:

I'm not denying it but can you at least take it easy, please?  This is hard for me to accept.  It's like finding out dog is really a cat.  

LOL

[ZachEY]

3 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

 Because I'm likable

oh?

[JiF]

1 minute ago, The Crusher said:

LOL

Could you imagine?  You show up to the vet with this cute little puppy you just bought and the vet is like ummm, dude, this is a cat.  Try to put yourself in that situation.  That's what I'm experiencing so a little sensitivity would be really appreciated. 

[ZachEY]

3 hours ago, mrcoops said:

Nice of him to supply a list:

This confirms my thinking...trade him to Washington.

Even Jamal Adams knows Jamal Adams isn't good enough to change anything.  He just wants to be a cheerleader on a better team.

[The Crusher]

2 minutes ago, JiF said:

Could you imagine?  You show up to the vet with this cute little puppy you just bought and the vet is like ummm, dude, this is a cat.  Try to put yourself in that situation.  That's what I'm experiencing so a little sensitivity would be really appreciated. 

 

[Melly-Mel]

I’m a fan of Jamal but we don’t need this type of attitude it just turns into cancer. Time for him to go

[slats]

17 minutes ago, Jets723 said:

The funny thing is that he isn’t as great as he thinks he is.  He is a very good player but he isn’t the type of player that will help win games, we have seen that for the last three years.  The problem is he has put himself above the team.  

He is not. 

Physically, he's a 6'1"-215lb guy who runs a 4.56. Nothing special about that from an NFL perspective. This is a big part of the "positional value," discussion. Jamal Adams plays SS because that's the best he can do on an NFL field athletically. It would be SS or RB, and you can bet his RB dad told him that safeties have less painful, longer careers. 

But that level athlete is not the guy you give your $15M+/year contracts to, especially if you have him under control for the next three years for under $25M in total dollars. Those premium contracts are for the absolute cream of the crop. Your QB, obviously. Your true, 6'4", 220lb, sub-4.4 guy who can catch; the 6'5"-260lb sub 4.7 guy who gets you 12 sacks a year. Special players.

Jamal Adams is not special. What makes him, "great," is the mental aspect of his game. His preparation, his instincts. They're great. But bottom line, you can replace him with a better athlete, coach that athlete up, and get 90% of what Jamal Adams brings to the field on any given play. For a fraction of the price. Positional value. You just don't pay a box safety like that. 

[Big_Slick]

3 hours ago, choon328 said:

If the report about him not requiring a contract extension to certain teams is true then I don't know how anybody could defend him at this point.  This was never about the Jets paying him.  This was about getting off the team. 

What was reported is that there is a list of teams Jamal (who has zero say where he's traded) will not insist on an 'immediate' contract extension. Key word is immediate.

[Jets723]

4 minutes ago, slats said:

He is not. 

Physically, he's a 6'1"-215lb guy who runs a 4.56. Nothing special about that from an NFL perspective. This is a big part of the "positional value," discussion. Jamal Adams plays SS because that's the best he can do on an NFL field athletically. It would be SS or RB, and you can bet his RB dad told him that safeties have less painful, longer careers. 

But that level athlete is not the guy you give your $15M+/year contracts to, especially if you have him under control for the next three years for under $25M in total dollars. Those premium contracts are for the absolute cream of the crop. Your QB, obviously. Your true, 6'4", 220lb, sub-4.4 guy who can catch; the 6'5"-260lb sub 4.7 guy who gets you 12 sacks a year. Special players.

Jamal Adams is not special. What makes him, "great," is the mental aspect of his game. His preparation, his instincts. They're great. But bottom line, you can replace him with a better athlete, coach that athlete up, and get 90% of what Jamal Adams brings to the field on any given play. For a fraction of the price. Positional value. You just don't pay a box safety like that. 

Agreed 100%

[ZachEY]

1 hour ago, Lith said:

 

 

Since I've been right on everything on this matter, allow me to also tell you that if/when he's gone, the floodgates will open with locker room quotes, maybe even some with names attached, about how he's not and never was a leader at all, more of a self-promoting clown that everyone nodded their head along with, voted team MVP because he'd throw a sh*t fit if they didn't, and they're glad he's gone.

[Jets723]

21 minutes ago, JiF said:

I do not want to EAD.  Jamal is being a little bitch and it breaks my heart to say that because I love him with all my heart and soul. 

Why do you love him so much?  He obviously doesn’t give two sh*ts about the Jets and I’m damn sure he doesn’t give two sh*ts about Jet fans 😂 

[Dcat]

7 minutes ago, slats said:

He is not. 

Physically, he's a 6'1"-215lb guy who runs a 4.56. Nothing special about that from an NFL perspective. This is a big part of the "positional value," discussion. Jamal Adams plays SS because that's the best he can do on an NFL field athletically. It would be SS or RB, and you can bet his RB dad told him that safeties have less painful, longer careers. 

But that level athlete is not the guy you give your $15M+/year contracts to, especially if you have him under control for the next three years for under $25M in total dollars. Those premium contracts are for the absolute cream of the crop. Your QB, obviously. Your true, 6'4", 220lb, sub-4.4 guy who can catch; the 6'5"-260lb sub 4.7 guy who gets you 12 sacks a year. Special players.

Jamal Adams is not special. What makes him, "great," is the mental aspect of his game. His preparation, his instincts. They're great. But bottom line, you can replace him with a better athlete, coach that athlete up, and get 90% of what Jamal Adams brings to the field on any given play. For a fraction of the price. Positional value. You just don't pay a box safety like that. 

^truth

[ZachEY]

1 hour ago, Chrebetfan80 said:

I know people are very down on what we could get in a trade for Adams, and some of the proposed deals are interesting. But JD will absolutely use the Jalen Ramsey trade as the framework for any deal for Adams.  You have to start there and work your way down.  Do i think we get what the jags got for ramsey?  Probably not, that was an insane haul, but Adams has absolutely 0 leverage in this situation and the Jets hold all the cards.  

 

You want him?  2 1sts + is the starting price. You dont want to pay?  Fine, we'll sit him if he doesnt want to play for us.  

Not paying Jamal Adams IS the compensation.

[slats]

2 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

Since I've been right on everything on this matter, allow me to also tell you that if/when he's gone, the floodgates will open with locker room quotes, maybe even some with names attached, about how he's not and never was a leader at all, more of a self-promoting clown that everyone nodded their head along with, voted team MVP because he'd throw a sh*t fit if they didn't, and they're glad he's gone.

I enjoy these, because I feel like they're professional opinions. 

[TuscanyTile2]

If Jamal wants to be traded then I stand with T0mShane!

[TuscanyTile2]

11 minutes ago, slats said:

He is not. 

Physically, he's a 6'1"-215lb guy who runs a 4.56. Nothing special about that from an NFL perspective. This is a big part of the "positional value," discussion. Jamal Adams plays SS because that's the best he can do on an NFL field athletically. It would be SS or RB, and you can bet his RB dad told him that safeties have less painful, longer careers. 

But that level athlete is not the guy you give your $15M+/year contracts to, especially if you have him under control for the next three years for under $25M in total dollars. Those premium contracts are for the absolute cream of the crop. Your QB, obviously. Your true, 6'4", 220lb, sub-4.4 guy who can catch; the 6'5"-260lb sub 4.7 guy who gets you 12 sacks a year. Special players.

Jamal Adams is not special. What makes him, "great," is the mental aspect of his game. His preparation, his instincts. They're great. But bottom line, you can replace him with a better athlete, coach that athlete up, and get 90% of what Jamal Adams brings to the field on any given play. For a fraction of the price. Positional value. You just don't pay a box safety like that. 

Which I think ultimately goes back to the idea that we shouldn't have drafted him that high (though I have to admit I bought into the hype on draft day).

[Embrace the Suck]

42 minutes ago, Big_Slick said:

Not going to happen, I hope I'm wrong because I'd ecstatic with a first for a box safety that demands to be paid like the leagues top 5 defensive players.

There will be a team who thinks he can be that impact player on D which they need to get over the hump.

[TuscanyTile2]

27 minutes ago, JiF said:

I do not want to EAD.  Jamal is being a little bitch and it breaks my heart to say that because I love him with all my heart and soul. 

I was convinced you were about to take things in a Dr. Seuss direction.  Alas...

[Big_Slick]

2 hours ago, Prez33 said:

Jamal Adams and JJ Watt are the only two players in NFL history with 200+ tackles, 10+ sacks, and 25 PBU’s in their first 3 seasons. (Source: Field Yates). You can pump the breaks with “Jamal lovers looking stupid”. 
 

With that said, even I’m not a fan of this latest tactic he’s resorted to. Demanding a trade was a bad move. Poor judgement. I don’t see how this can be repaired now that the situation has gotten to this point.  JD’s gonna get lowball offers because teams know he wants out. I still think we’re gonna get bent over in a trade. Nobody’s giving us what he’s worth. 
 

 

I wonder how many of those Jamal sacks came on an unblocked blitz compared to JJ beating his man or even a double coverage for his sacks. And when Jamal blitzes he leaves a hole in the D that's often exploited by savvy QB's. 

Comparing a box safety to an elite edge rusher - LOL.

[TuscanyTile2]

59 minutes ago, Jets723 said:

I kept hoping one day Jamal would prove us wrong and be a team guy but it’s obviously never been about the team.  I’m not a Francesa fan but I gotta give him credit he was spot in about Adams.  What’s laughable is that Adams compared himself to Donald and Brady 😂. 

Defensive Pro Bowl MVPs:

Jamal Adams: 1

Tom Brady: 0

[Bugg]

1 hour ago, JiF said:

Yep.  Me either, best player on the team and he was told he's getting a contract and they lied.  The fanbase hates him and think he sucks, what's the point?  I hope he goes somewhere great and we at least get a 2nd rounder out of it, which will suck because Jamal is awesome. 

When and where was this? They have said they'd like to lock him up, but that doesn't mean they do it on his terms and on his timetable. It's called a negotiation. 

[TuscanyTile2]

2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Thank you, sir. To be fair, I’m a certified psychic so I have an unfair advantage.

But you knew that already, didn't you.