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The Big "Jamal Officially asks to be traded" Thread


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16 hours ago, Big_Slick said:

He was over the line at the trade deadline when he refused to speak with his bosses, the HC and the GM.

Who cares about Jamal getting into the HOF? A box safety in today's player safety first NFL. Not going to happen. I care about what's best for the Jets and not Jamal's personal accomplishments.

He will not be traded for a kings ransom, that wouldn't have happened before this latest temper tantrum. Now other teams will lower their trade offers which NEVER was a kings ransom. Only Jerry leaking to the press about a fictitious first and third. JD never validated that offer was made and until he does I choose not to believe Jerry. 

Adams is only worth a 2020 two at this point, so JD will choose to make him play out his rookie contract. No trade and no extension. Period.

 

 

^^^^^ This guy gets it also.

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5 hours ago, TeddEY said:

Meanwhile, Jamal, to me, is trashing his trade value, and frankly his contract value, with a move like this.

One of the biggest challenges, as I see it, as a GM, is the psychological aspect of knowing who you can and can't pay.  Will this guy be an asset to the team once he's stupid rich?  Here is what I hear, if I'm a GM.  I've got a guy who's a very good player, at a lower impact position available to me.  I know he can be an asset to my team.  However, I also know that I need to pay him top of the league money, even if he's willing to differ that for a year.  I also know that this is a guy who overuses social media to make his point, and while he professes being a team-first guy, clearly has not been that, at least since there were trade rumors last year.  I also see a guy who's trying to force his way out of town, over money, in an offseason where big money has been slow to flow, because the US is in the middle of a pandemic and we can't even say for certain what the season will look like, or if there will even be one.  While I respect every players right to get paid, I also see this level of tone-deafness, as a detriment and a sure sign that this guy is all about himself.  I have to convince myself that suddenly, money stops all of these behaviors, rather than magnifies them, and I only get Jamal the football player, not Jamal the man-baby.  I have to convince myself that once a few players get paid more than him, as happens every subsequent offseason, he won't come knocking again.  Because, maybe I think the Jets are a bit of a clown-shoes organization, but I don't want to be the next clown-shoes organization by pretending that it can't happen to me.

And so, with all of that, I simply don't make the call to Joe Douglas.  I can find an adequate strong safety in the mid-rounds, and use my own resources, financially and draftwise, to build elsewhere.

Agreed.

Which is exactly why we should take the best early deal we can. It would allow us to start focusing on tomorrow's work today, rather than continuing fruitless negotiations with this megalomaniac.

Cut bait.

 

People saying "hold out for 3 firsts and a couple probowlers cause Jamallpro is godly" (disclaimer: exaggeration) while simultaneously crying because their hero is not who they thought he was have ****ing lost it. Deep down they have to know no one was giving up the compensation they hoped for and their is no way his play this upcoming season will recoup a value that never really was.

 

No matter how it unfolds many people won't be happy.  The beauty is none of us have any say in the situation and we all just get to watch the ensuing trainwreck unfold. I'll enjoy it either way, I'm not too attached to any of the outcomes.

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10 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

This is correct. This is on JD more than Adams. 

 

10 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

If you find out you have cancer and don’t have The tumor removed but instead just hope it goes away.  Then a year later it get just too big to remove. 

At that point that’s on you, not the cancer. 

^^^^^ This guy gets it even better than the others.

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1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

No one expects Jamal and the Jets to "make it work".  But taking 50 cents on the dollar isn't a smart decision either.  We need to maximize what we get for him in a trade. 

If teams don't meet us at, say, a 75 cents on the dollar level....then Jamal will have to play or give up 40K per day/week or whatever it is.  Period.  Dumping him for a lot less just makes no sense.  He's under contract for 2 more years and can't do anything to force the trade to happen.

I’m not even taking 75 cents in the dollar. The jets have the stick here. Taking less to make Jamal happy is unnecessary and frankly bad business. Again, if the jets can extract value (I’d say a 1 or 2 and another teams headache a la Ngakoue), that’s one thing. Failing that, Jamal can piss and moan on twitter for 3 years (including franchise tag year) for all I care.

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Why would a team that is not going to be any good want to trade for him. Seems to me that the only teams that would try and get him are teams that need one or two players to be seriously considered as Super Bowl contenders. The lousy teams don’t need only one player they need an infusion of talent So lousy teams bidding on Adams really doesn’t make sense. Best I think the Jets can do will be a late first round pick and a third round also 

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8 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

We'll take that $15-18M per we'd be paying Jamal and put it to good use.

You Jamal fans should start a grieving club.  

Here’s the thing 80.

NOBODY here is supporting Adams for the crap he pulled. If anything, he’s finally turned off the people who supported him the most with this trade demand.

im not talking about the people who change their mind about just about every player on the team, I’m talking about the ones who stand by their opinions, no matter how unpopular it makes us. We backed Adams, and we were willing to take crap for it even when his antics annoyed us.

What those few, myself included, are saying is, it’s not just Adams who put the laundry we root for in this position. The guy who’s supposed to take care of that laundry let it get too dirty.

You guys who think JD is playing 3D chess here aren’t paying attention.

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29 minutes ago, Pac said:

What are you talking about?  I still feel that way...  I bet JD does as well.  If instagramz and twats get you up in arms that's your deal. 

JD isn't going to crumble because Jamal gave him the equivalent of an angry emoji.

It sounded like you were criticizing JD for not taking the trade deadline deal Dallas was offering.  My bad.

Several pro-Jamal guys are trying to make revisionist history out of that decision, and suggest JD was now dumb for not taking the deal.

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10 minutes ago, Jets723 said:

Jamal you are getting traded to whoever gives us the best offer.  You have no say in it.

 

Trade him the Mets and make him platoon at AA with Tim Tebow. THAT IS WHAT I WOULD DO.

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20 minutes ago, Maxman said:

Trade him the Mets and make him platoon at AA with Tim Tebow. THAT IS WHAT I WOULD DO.

Hey that would be worth it just to see Jamals face lol.  But in all seriousness I trust JD to get a very good package for him and rid us of his nonsense 

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2 hours ago, Skeet Ulrich said:

What, precisely, about this situation would lead you to believe Jamal will play good soldier and play out the rest of his contract + franchise year with the Jets?

It's way more likely it turns into a Jamal Ramsey situation where he bitches, insults the management in public, misses time due to 'injury' and 'illness'.

 

Let him be a bitch all year. We can easily control him for the next 3 while he tanks his market value if he wants to play it like that. League can easily move on without the world's most self important box safety if he decides to pout from home. How many extra games we pretending Jamal Adams in the lineup wins us next year? You dont just give in to this little a$$hole who can't remember the last time he heard no.

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1 hour ago, Jets723 said:

Honestly he has zero leverage.  The Jets have three more years Of control over him so all the bitching and moaning Jamal dies serves no purpose for him 

No owner, HC or DC wants to hear this crap from their 'star' defensive 'leader'.  It just seeps through the team's chemistry.  Players start taking sides and resentment brews.  It would be in the Jets best interest at this point just to get rid of Jamal before the start of the season.  What's puzzling is JD's stance on this. He knew Adams was going to be a pain in the azz over this.  Draft time was the window to trade him.  JD has now boxed himself in a corner with this and Jamal is not holding back any punches.  Just looks like a situation that will only get uglier and uglier and uglier. 

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1 hour ago, Dunnie said:

Would actually sort of love this ... Would make for great reading of posts by the Jamal Haters ... Would really sorry of love this.

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Interesting.....

It will be you and @DLJholding onto some misplaced love for Jamal. Rooting for him and TB12 to win a SB to spite your own team and fanbase for not caving to his gargantuan ego. 

He's not who you thought he was.

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7 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

Yes. And Adams absolutely is to blame, but JD should have seen this coming a mile away.  This past draft was loaded with talent at our biggest needs. The time to trade him was before the draft.  
 

we will not the value now than we could have then.  
This isn’t personal, guys make mistakes sometime. JD’s not infallible - he made a mistake here. That’s all.  

Sure JD isn't infallible, but this isn't one of them, though. 

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2 hours ago, Embrace the Suck said:

No, we've gone down this road. No more holding onto players who don't want to be here or don't live up to potential hoping things will change. Trade them and use the resources to get better. It's like a failed marriage in that you don't hang around thinking that suddenly the parties involved will just make it work due to magic and stuff.   

I wouldn't be mad. 

 

I just think players demanding trades because they don't get a new contract with two full years left on their deal is BS. 

 

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25 minutes ago, Jets723 said:

Hey that would be worth it just to see Jamals face lol.  But in all seriousness I trust JD to get a very good package for him and rid us of his nonsense 

Same exact thought here.

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3 hours ago, cant wait said:

Wow what a great leader. It’s funny for a guy that calls himself “president” he spends a lot of time on social media complaining about how unfairly he’s being treated ?

You mean just like the current president? ?

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