The Big "Jamal Officially asks to be traded" Thread

[JustInFudge]

7 minutes ago, Jetster said:

Right? The Patriots are boring as paint drying but JAMAL ADAMS is fun. 

The Patriots win. Winning is fun. The Jets suck.  Sucking sucks.

 

[JustInFudge]

4 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

Winning is fun to me. Jamal Adams doesn’t win. Therefore, he’s actually pretty boring if you ask me.

You guys took that way too serious.  

Just pointed out, how he's good and we cant have good things.

sheesh  my god, I'll keep my thoughts to myself

 

[Patriot Killa]

16 minutes ago, JiF said:

You guys took that way too serious.  

Just pointed out, how he's good and we cant have good things.

sheesh  my god, I'll keep my thoughts to myself

 

But that’s not our fault, JIF. It’s Jamal’s fault. He’s the one that wants out and that’s the reason we can’t have good things. The “good thing” (that isn’t really even that good where it matters if you ask me) wants to walk out the door in the middle of his rookie contract. This wasn’t the usual Woody Johnson/Jets org fumble of the ball where they show their incompetence and mess up something going well for them. This is all on Adams.

[T0mShane]

19 minutes ago, JiF said:

You guys took that way too serious.  

Just pointed out, how he's good and we cant have good things.

sheesh  my god, I'll keep my thoughts to myself

 

Jamal Adams sucks

[Jetster]

28 minutes ago, JiF said:

The Patriots win. Winning is fun. The Jets suck.  Sucking sucks.

 

Hey, we can suck with Adams or without Adams ?. Give me Deebo Samuels & a 1st rounder in 2021 & 2nd in 2022. 
Mosely does everything Adams does along the LOS & my guess is Davis will be better than Jamal in coverage. 

[JustInFudge]

11 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

But that’s not our fault, JIF. It’s Jamal’s fault. He’s the one that wants out and that’s the reason we can’t have good things. The “good thing” (that isn’t really even that good where it matters if you ask me) wants to walk out the door in the middle of his rookie contract. This wasn’t the usual Woody Johnson/Jets org fumble of the ball where they show their incompetence and mess up something going well for them. This is all on Adams.

I'm aware.  Just droppin some thoughts, brah.

 

[predator_05]

3 minutes ago, Jetster said:

Hey, we can suck with Adams or without Adams ?. Give me Deebo Samuels & a 1st rounder in 2021 & 2nd in 2022. 
Mosely does everything Adams does along the LOS & my guess is Davis will be better than Jamal in coverage. 

D-bo samuels is injured right now

[JustInFudge]

3 minutes ago, Jetster said:

Hey, we can suck with Adams or without Adams ?. Give me Deebo Samuels & a 1st rounder in 2021 & 2nd in 2022. 
Mosely does everything Adams does along the LOS & my guess is Davis will be better than Jamal in coverage. 

I enjoy being entertained...

...and keep dreaming.  lol

[Lurker89]

14 minutes ago, JiF said:

You guys took that way too serious.  

Just pointed out, how he's good and we cant have good things.

sheesh  my god, I'll keep my thoughts to myself

 

Sorry about your dog Brotha,

But I'm pretty sure that dog is not a cat.... It's a peacock.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

The only fair trade I can think of right now is swapping for Ngakoue with the Jags. And I don’t think that would happen since they prob want more then just a swap like that. 

 

[slats]

1 minute ago, Samtorobby47 said:

The only fair trade I can think of right now is swapping for Ngakoue with the Jags. And I don’t think that would happen since they prob want more then just a swap like that. 

 

Care to paste the article? Or at least a synopsis? 

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

2 minutes ago, slats said:

Care to paste the article? Or at least a synopsis? 

It doesn’t say anything groundbreaking. Was just showing that they won’t trade him unless they’re blown away. 

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

He’s saying the Jets want La'el Collins (plus a pick ideally) from Dallas if they’re gonna trade him there. 

 

[Jetsfan80]

5 hours ago, JiF said:

You didnt read the post at all so why make a comment about it? 

You definitely buried the lead, dude, lol.  Your first 4 points seemed to be in favor of Douglas handing Adams an extension.  Then you reversed course and went "Nah, don't cave."  lol.

[pdxgreen]

Asked Conor Hughes in if this full court press on social media and sniping through media leaks was going to force JD's hand?

He said, "I don't think Adams' camp knows Joe Douglas too well."

So there is always that.

[BROOKLYN JET]

https://www.totalprosports.com/2020/06/24/blockbuster-jamal-adams-trade-to-san-francisco-49ers-is-reportedly-picking-up-steam/

[Dunnie]

[/url] He’s saying the Jets want La'el Collins (plus a pick ideally) from Dallas if they’re gonna trade him there. 
 

I'd be on board with this ... Where does that put Fant ? Backup ?

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[Bleedin Green]

5 hours ago, Dunnie said:

I'd be on board with this ... Where does that put Fant ? Backup ?

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Probably, but if that were to happen, I'd also like the idea of putting Becton in a position to earn himself a starting gig in competition with Fant.  Obviously Becton's intended to be the long-term answer for the team, but that doesn't necessarily translate to a need to rush him out there from day one, especially given the limited offseason/camp/preseason this year.

[RVAJet815]

18 hours ago, pdxgreen said:

Asked Conor Hughes in if this full court press on social media and sniping through media leaks was going to force JD's hand?

He said, "I don't think Adams' camp knows Joe Douglas too well."

So there is always that.

That much is obvious. Jamal isn't shooting his way out of town. Either the JD and the jets get fair value or he's stuck with the team and deal HE signed for. Pretty simple, really. 

[Jetsfan80]

Jets Pass Defense rankings the last 5 years, per DVOA:

• 2015:  # 18
• 2016:  # 31
• 2017:  # 22
• 2018:  # 18
• 2019:  # 18

So much impact, that Jamal has.  

[Bleedin Green]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Jets Pass Defense rankings the last 5 years, per DVOA:

• 2015:  # 18
• 2016:  # 31
• 2017:  # 22
• 2018:  # 18
• 2019:  # 18

So much impact, that Jamal has.  

Yeah, but how many presidents did the Jets have on the roster each of those years, huh?

Checkmate.

[Lith]

15 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said:

Yeah, but how many presidents did the Jets have on the roster each of those years, huh?

Checkmate.

Well, we did have a couple of Harrisons and a couple of Johnsons.  

[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, Lith said:

Well, we did have a couple of Harrisons and a couple of Johnsons.  

But no Fillmores or Van Burens. 

[T0mShane]

They need to get him out of here this weekend, imo. Just pull the trigger and be done with it. You can already see and hear the media ramping up to attack the Jets on this. Cut them off at the knees.

[Jetsfan80]

2019 "Approximate Value" leaders, per Pro-Football-Reference.com:

1. QB Lamar Jackson, BAL:  25
2. CB Stephon Gilmore, NE:  21
3. S Minkah Fitzpatrick, MIA/PIT:  19
4. OT Ronnie Stanley, BAL:  18
5. WR Michael Thomas, NO:  18
6. CB Tre'Davious White, BUF:  18
7. QB Pat Mahomes, KC:  17
8. CB Marcus Peters, LAR/BAL:  17
9. DT Cameron Hayward, PIT:  17
10. ILB Dont'a Hightower, NE:  17
11. QB Deshaun Watson, HOU:  16
12. QB Dak Prescott, DAL:  16
13. OT Mitchell Schwartz, KC:  16
14. OT Ryan Ramczyk, NO:  16
15. QB Russell Wilson, SEA:  15
16. QB Jameis Winston, TB:  15
17. QB Jimmy Garoppolo, SF:  15
18. DT Aaron Donald, LAR:  15
19. DT DeForest Buckner, SF:  15
20. G Zack Martin, DAL:  15
21. RB Christian McCaffrey, CAR:  15
22. EDGE T.J. Watt, PIT:  14
23. G Quenton Nelson, IND:  14
24. QB Aaron Rodgers, GB:  14
25. QB Kirk Cousins, MIN:  14
26. QB Kyler Murray, AZ:  14
27. LB Jamie Collins, NE:  14
28. LB Demario Davis, NO:  14
29. LB Tremaine Edmunds, BUF:  14
30. LT David Bakhtiari, GB:  14
31. G Marshal Yanda, BAL:  14
32. RT Orlando Brown, BAL:  14
33. RB Dalvin Cook, MIN:  14
34. ILB Bobby Wagner, SEA:  14
35. ILB Eric Hendricks, MIN:  14
36. DT Lawrence Guy, NE:  14
37. QB Matt Ryan, ATL:  13
38. QB Phillip Rivers, LAC:  13
39. EDGE Kyle Van Noy, NE:  13
40. CB Marlon Humphrey, BAL:  13
41. S Jamal Adams, NYJ:  13
42. TE Travis Kelce, KC:  13
43. C Jason Kelce, PHI:  13
44. DE Cameron Jordan, NO:  13
45. LB Shaquil Barrett, TB:  13

 

So 40-44 players in the league were more valuable than Jamal Adams last season, which was of course Jamal's best season in the league to date. 

Probably a lot more players ahead of him than the remaining Jamal fans would like to admit.

[Bleedin Green]

13 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

2019 "Approximate Value" leaders, per Pro-Football-Reference.com:

1. QB Lamar Jackson, BAL:  25
2. CB Stephon Gilmore, NE:  21
3. S Minkah Fitzpatrick, MIA/PIT:  19
4. OT Ronnie Stanley, BAL:  18
5. WR Michael Thomas, NO:  18
6. CB Tre'Davious White, BUF:  18
7. QB Pat Mahomes, KC:  17
8. CB Marcus Peters, LAR/BAL:  17
9. DT Cameron Hayward, PIT:  17
10. ILB Dont'a Hightower, NE:  17
11. QB Deshaun Watson, HOU:  16
12. QB Dak Prescott, DAL:  16
13. OT Mitchell Schwartz, KC:  16
14. OT Ryan Ramczyk, NO:  16
15. QB Russell Wilson, SEA:  15
16. QB Jameis Winston, TB:  15
17. QB Jimmy Garoppolo, SF:  15
18. DT Aaron Donald, LAR:  15
19. DT DeForest Buckner, SF:  15
20. G Zack Martin, DAL:  15
21. RB Christian McCaffrey, CAR:  15
22. EDGE T.J. Watt, PIT:  14
23. G Quenton Nelson, IND:  14
24. QB Aaron Rodgers, GB:  14
25. QB Kirk Cousins, MIN:  14
26. QB Kyler Murray, AZ:  14
27. LB Jamie Collins, NE:  14
28. LB Demario Davis, NO:  14
29. LB Tremaine Edmunds, BUF:  14
30. LT David Bakhtiari, GB:  14
31. G Marshal Yanda, BAL:  14
32. RT Orlando Brown, BAL:  14
33. RB Dalvin Cook, MIN:  14
34. ILB Bobby Wagner, SEA:  14
35. ILB Eric Hendricks, MIN:  14
36. DT Lawrence Guy, NE:  14
37. QB Matt Ryan, ATL:  13
38. QB Phillip Rivers, LAC:  13
39. EDGE Kyle Van Noy, NE:  13
40. CB Marlon Humphrey, BAL:  13
41. S Jamal Adams, NYJ:  13
42. TE Travis Kelce, KC:  13
43. C Jason Kelce, PHI:  13
44. DE Cameron Jordan, NO:  13
45. LB Shaquil Barrett, TB:  13

 

So 40-44 players in the league were more valuable than Jamal Adams last season, which was of course Jamal's best season in the league to date. 

Probably a lot more players ahead of him than the remaining Jamal fans would like to admit.

I won't lie, I got a good laugh out of seeing Fitzpatrick rated so much higher than Adams.

[Jets723]

On 6/25/2020 at 10:00 AM, JiF said:

You guys took that way too serious.  

Just pointed out, how he's good and we cant have good things.

sheesh  my god, I'll keep my thoughts to myself

 

Honestly is Jamal really a good thing?  He is talented but let’s be honest he doesnt really made a huge impact.  If he did we wouldn’t be 16-32.  I’m not saying he has to carry the team but he loves to compare himself to other players who have proven to make a big impact on their respective teams...he hasn’t.  Plus he had been incredibly disloyal to the Jets.  He whines like a baby and he never puts over his teammates or the Jets.  

[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, Bleedin Green said:

I won't lie, I got a good laugh out of seeing Fitzpatrick rated so much higher than Adams.

And some posters want to use the compensation Miami got in the Minkah deal as the minimum they would accept in an Adams' trade.  ?

[T0mShane]

3 minutes ago, Jets723 said:

Honestly is Jamal really a good thing?  He is talented but let’s be honest he doesnt really made a huge impact.  If he did we wouldn’t be 16-32.  I’m not saying he has to carry the team but he loves to compare himself to other players who have proven to make a big impact on their respective teams...he hasn’t.  Plus he had been incredibly disloyal to the Jets.  He whines like a baby and he never puts over his teammates or the Jets.  

Weirdest thing about Jamal is that he posts on IG multiple times every day and you never see him with a teammate. He’s usually by himself buying sneakers or working out alone. For a guy who fancies himself a popular leader of men, it looks like he leads a solitary life off the field.

[Jets723]

8 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Weirdest thing about Jamal is that he posts on IG multiple times every day and you never see him with a teammate. He’s usually by himself buying sneakers or working out alone. For a guy who fancies himself a popular leader of men, it looks like he leads a solitary life off the field.

Agreed.  He posts pictures/videos of Ceedee Lamb but never a Jet. It clear he zero loyalty to the Jets.  It’s not like he is saying”I want to get paid but I love my teammates”.  He is saying” I’m great they’re bad and I don’t want to be associated...by the way I was 20 million per year even though I haven’t helped this team win” 

[slats]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

They need to get him out of here this weekend, imo. Just pull the trigger and be done with it. You can already see and hear the media ramping up to attack the Jets on this. Cut them off at the knees.

Just relax, you psychopath. Everything’s fine. 

[JoeFan]

I was tired of Jamal’s act before his self-absorbed trade request.  Last year, he was a much better player than he was in his first two years.  However, even last year, he frequently took himself out of position by trying to make hero plays. I lost respect from him during one of his many tearful post-game interviews.  One of the reporters (thankfully not Mehta, who is a troll) asked Adams what happened on a long touchdown run against the Jets. Jamal responded that *someone* missed an assignment.  When the play was shown on the highlights, it was obvious that it was Jamal who had missed his assignment.  So much for his leadership. 

I do think that Jamal is a very good player, but he is not half as good as he thinks he is.  In my opinion, he is an ok pass defender, certainly not a great one.  Yes, he is a good pass rusher, but I would prefer that we finally develop an edge rusher so that our strong safety can actually, you know, play safety. Maybe he can then intercept more than one pass in three seasons. 

In my opinion, we would only revert to acting like the Same Old Jets if we traded him for a poor package.  Unless we get overwhelmed with an offer, I say that we should keep Adams this year.  The fact that Jamal presented his wish list of teams to which he would like to be traded is arrogant to the extreme.  If we get great offers from bad teams, I would take one of the offers because we would get earlier draft picks. Why accept an offer that might result in getting the 28th pick, rather than, let’s say the 3rd pick in the 1st round?     Actually, I’d love to snatch the edge rusher from the Jags, whose name I can’t spell.  Edge rusher is a position where it actually makes sense to extend someone.   Not box safety!

Another point that many people overlook is that the salary cap is a pie that gets divided among all of the players.  It’s all well and good to say that Jamal has out-played his contract.  But, if we raise his pay early, every dollar that goes to Adams is a dollar that can’t go to someone who plays a more important position. You can’t just say “Jamal deserves more” and look at it in a vacuum.  Also,  no one knows what next year’s salary cap will be, so it would be crazy to extend anyone now  Are you listening, Carolina?

I think that Douglas is off to an excellent start in building the team. The only area where I would fault him would be his non-communication with Adams once the draft ended. I do think that it would have been better if he had had a sit-down with Jamal to lay out the team’s thought process. 

[LionelRichie]

This whole thing is just Jamal trying to get a new deal with a big SB before the cap potentially goes down next year.  Jamal is a great player, the best on the team by far.  But he’s still a safety and he’s smart to try to cash in now before the cap collapses.   
 

not sure how this ends but the only landing spots are teams trying to win in 2020.   Nobody is going to pay him with this cap uncertainty.    

[T0mShane]

4 hours ago, slats said:

Just relax, you psychopath. Everything’s fine. 

I’m trying to win a war here, slats

[T0mShane]

52 minutes ago, LionelRichie said:

This whole thing is just Jamal trying to get a new deal with a big SB before the cap potentially goes down next year.  Jamal is a great player, the best on the team by far.  But he’s still a safety and he’s smart to try to cash in now before the cap collapses.   
 

not sure how this ends but the only landing spots are teams trying to win in 2020.   Nobody is going to pay him with this cap uncertainty.    

Supposedly the league is going to provide some clarity on the 2021 cap on July 15th, so that could be the big day for any Jamal Adams suitors attempting to map out an offer.