Popular Post Patriot Killa Posted July 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2020 Comes back year 2 with a new system, another less than ideal situation and elevated a god awful roster. 8 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I agree 110%. Sam is the least of our worries. Look at the supporting cast for other young QBs compared to ours and it’s not even a comparison. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Our current roster is not the worst in the league now, but much of that is true last year. He says it like it is the present. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 We may have gone winless if not for Darnold. If the Jets OL can just rise to the level of league average, he should make a huge leap and cement himself as “the guy” here for the next 10+ years. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 You misspelled GASE GAWD 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team archer Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Comes back year 2 with a new system, another less than ideal situation and elevated a god awful roster. What were the wins in that span? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: This is why we believe in Sam Darnold Adam Gase so much Fixed it for you. SAR I 1 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted July 1, 2020 Author Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, SAR I said: Fixed it for you. SAR I 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: You misspelled GASE GAWD You mean the one who couldn’t coordinate touchdown drives nearly as well in the 2nd half of games due to his inability to adjust strategy and react to defensive game plans. Sam Darnold was the one bobbing and weaving DE’s left & right and slinging passes off balance. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 For objective Jets fans this is his put up or shut up year. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PS17 Posted July 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2020 It’s quite clear Darnold has been the best player on the team the past two years. Can you imagine him with a Harbaugh led coaching staff, elite OL, run game and defense? Or with OBJ, Landry, Njoku, Chubb, and Hunt? Maccagnan should be thrown in jail. 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: You mean the one who couldn’t coordinate touchdown drives nearly as well in the 2nd half of games due to his inability to adjust strategy and react to defensive game plans. Sam Darnold was the one bobbing and weaving DE’s left & right and slinging passes off balance. You agree with a Tweet that says the Jets had the worst roster in the league. You agree with a Tweet that points out severe deficiencies in personnel on both sides of the ball. Darnold played well. So did several other players who were put in a position to win and were motivated to win. Gase gets all the credit for 6-2. SAR I 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, johnnysd said: Our current roster is not the worst in the league now, but much of that is true last year. He says it like it is the present. On paper the Jets are better. Hopefully, it works. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted July 1, 2020 Author Share Posted July 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, SAR I said: You agree with a Tweet that says the Jets had the worst roster in the league. You agree with a Tweet that points out severe deficiencies in personnel on both sides of the ball. Darnold played well. So did several other players who were put in a position to win and were motivated to win. Gase gets all the credit for 6-2. SAR I Lol what. If you watched the games, you could see play by play exactly how clueless Adam Gase was. HB draws on 3rd and 8? The over use of screen passes that never worked. His offense was ranked near dead last the entire time he has been a head coach, the 6-2 finish wasn’t suddenly his doing. Darnold out played his idiocy on several occasions. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Drums Posted July 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2020 We would have gone 0-16 without him. Guy can get us to 10 wins a year and I think Douglas can build a winning roster around him. I think we appear in a super bowl within the now 5 years left on JDs contract But also have to give the D credit. The offense stalled quite a bit at times and the d kept us in games 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Quote This is why we believe in Sam Darnold so much Then why is Sam Darnold @Mogglez's least favorite Jet of all time??? Why you hate Sam so much, Mogglez? Why??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, jetstream23 said: Then why is Sam Darnold @Mogglez's least favorite Jet of all time??? Why you hate Sam so much, Mogglez? Why??? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 How anyone can attempt to make the story of the ‘19 season “Sam heroically overcoming an inept HC” is truly fascinating. Not at all factual, but still... fascinating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Trolly McTrollface said: How anyone can attempt to make the story of the ‘19 season “Sam heroically overcoming an inept HC” is truly fascinating. Not at all factual, but still... fascinating. The hottest of takes (and my personal opinion) is that Sam and Gase both overcame serious talent deficiencies that gives you hope for the both of them, but the jury is still out. However, I do think Sam's odds of being good-great are better than Adam's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 we need wayyyy morr passes that travel over 15yds in the air to be completed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KRL Posted July 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2020 Darnold stablized his play and improved but there were other reasons for the 6-2 second half: - Gase kept the locker room together - Williams developed a bunch of defensive "no names" and coordinated his butt off - Boyer coached up the special teams even with an erratic K and P 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, Mogglez said: The hottest of takes (and my personal opinion) is that Sam and Gase both overcame serious talent deficiencies that gives you hope for the both of them, but the jury is still out. However, I do think Sam's odds of being good-great are better than Adam's. No problem with your first point, it’s very reasonable. As for the last sentence, we both know each others opinions on those two players... The only thing i’ll ask you is, assuming you don’t feel Adams isn’t already good/great, (I think he is) would you say Sam has a lot of catching up to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted July 1, 2020 Author Share Posted July 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, Trolly McTrollface said: How anyone can attempt to make the story of the ‘19 season “Sam heroically overcoming an inept HC” is truly fascinating. Not at all factual, but still... fascinating. Very factual but even more factual is how I knew you’d be on this thread like a fly on sh*t? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, SAR I said: Gase gets all the credit for 6-2. SAR I Greg Williams gets some credit too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, Trolly McTrollface said: No problem with your first point, it’s very reasonable. As for the last sentence, we both know each others opinions on those two players... The only thing i’ll ask you is, assuming you don’t feel Adams isn’t already good/great, (I think he is) would you say Sam has a lot of catching up to do? I was referring to Adam Gase's chances of being great lol, not Jamal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mogglez said: I was referring to Adam Gase's chances of being great lol, not Jamal. That whoosh you just heard? It was your point going over my head, lol. Sorry, my bad. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: Greg Williams gets some credit too. Adam Gase hired him. Credit to Gase. SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Why do bad teams have bad 2nd halves of games? You can only SCHEME so long before it becomes Mano e Mano. Jets couldn’t run the ball, couldn’t rush the passer & couldn’t shut down any part of the field because they had no CBs. I keep seeing “he would run on 3rd & 8”, well, maybe because he knew our WRs weren’t winning matches, and our Tackles were getting abused & he didn’t want to expose Darnold? We weren’t even in the Playoff chase at 1-7. At that point your trying to win BUT not get your young 21 year old QB killed either. the last 8 games & 6-2 record were building blocks for Darnold & Gase. 2020 will be the 1st time the kids been in the same offense. So now, you build from there, and have Sam be a coach on the field too. I think the Oline will be night & day compared to last year for 3 reasons. 1- Upgraded Talent on Oline, 2- Sams experience & 3- More weapons with the addition of Mims & Herndons return. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, PS17 said: It’s quite clear Darnold has been the best player on the team the past two years. Can you imagine him with a Harbaugh led coaching staff, elite OL, run game and defense? Or with OBJ, Landry, Njoku, Chubb, and Hunt? Maccagnan should be thrown in jail. No love for Mac here but honestly using your above parameters half the QB starters in the NFL, maybe more would put up nice numbers. Just look what a middling QB like Tannehill did with an A "cast" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 All the players and all the coaches suck I hope we lose and we all suffer. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 G*A*S*E* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 a few easy reasons to believe in darnold; he's not mccown, fitzy, genot, sanchez, vick, and so on. but really, he has made some plays that we have rarely seen from the jets over the past decade and without really good skill position players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Look I’ve been a fan of Sam long before we drafted him. He is the QB I wanted in that draft and I still stand by that. Now I do try To be fair. He has had his issues the past two years when it comes to some bad turnovers and throwing off his back foot. There are also times where he needs to run instead of throwing the ball. Nonetheless he also showed a lot of good things too. And let’s be honest compared to the other QBs in that draft he had significantly less talent around him. One of the worst olines and really no weapons. Look I’ve always believed that it doesnt matter how good of a QB you are you still need help In one of those areas or you are going to struggled. You can’t have both a terrible oline an no weapons and expect to excel it’s not going to happen. I liked what JD did this offseason when it comes to the oline. The Weapons? Still a work in progress but you can’t expect him to be able to fix everything in one offseason. I love the Mims pick he was one of my top WR in the draft, I think Bell is gonna bounce back, Herndon should be healthy. So the weapons are still a work IN Progress But I think we are getting there. Either way I still am excited to see what Sam does. I’ve never sugarcoated the things he needs to work on but I still believe he is gonna be a very good QB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Talking about the past is boring. The future is what matters. If Sam throws for a top 10 QB production season, be assured, his doubters will be left with nothing to say. On the other hand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Just now, Warfish said: Talking about the past is boring. The future is what matters. If Sam throws for a top 10 QB production season, be assured, his doubters will be left with nothing to say. On the other hand... THAT type of leap? I'd be SO PLEASANSTLY surprised!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Kleckineau said: No love for Mac here but honestly using your above parameters half the QB starters in the NFL, maybe more would put up nice numbers. Just look what a middling QB like Tannehill did with an A "cast" whaddaya think the odds that he reverts to his mean this year.... i mean.. Testeverde has 2 great years out of?? what 17, 18? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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