Redrafting Jets drafts from the last 10 years

[joewilly12]

Redrafting Jets drafts from last 10 years: Patrick Mahomes over Jamal Adams, Josh Allen over Quinnen Williams; Sam Darnold still the pick in 2018?

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What if the New York Jets didn't draft Jamal Adams in 2017?AP

 

 

 

By Chris Ryan | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com

Jamal Adams turned into everything the Jets could have hoped for with the sixth overall pick of the 2017 NFL Draft.

But what if the Jets drafted Patrick Mahomes instead?

Mahomes went No. 10 overall to the Kansas City Chiefs, and the rest is history for the highest paid man in sports.

 

It’s easy to play the “What if?” game with past draft picks and imagine what could have been with a little bit of revisionist history. So that’s exactly what we’re doing here with the Jets and the past 10 NFL Drafts.

 

We’ll look at who the Jets picked in each of the first four rounds each season, and redraft it based on who was available at that pick.

 

A few rules:

 

1. Each year is done in a vacuum. We’re redrafting for each year, not for every year combined. So what we redraft in 2010 does not actually carry over into 2011, 2012 and so on.

2. To keep it semi-realistic, we didn’t venture too far past who the Jets picked at a given slot to make a change. So, if they picked a player early in the fourth round, we didn’t replace him with a guy selected in the sixth round. That would never have happened at the time. We’ll keep re-drafted picks to players taken within 10 slots of the original Jets pick.

 

So, with that, here are our picks for the redraft, based on value, talent and, when possible, the Jets’ needs at the time of that draft.

 

2010

Original picks: CB Kyle Wilson (1st), T Vlad Ducasse (2nd), RB Joe McKnight (4th)

 

Redraft: CB Patrick Robinson (1st), T Jared Veldheer (2nd), DT Geno Atkins (4th)

 

Analysis: This draft class is one to forget. For one, the Jets made only four picks total — the three listed above and RB John Connor in the fifth round. Wilson was a starter for just one season with the Jets before playing his final season in 2015. Ducasse played just two of his seven seasons in New York and started only four games with the Jets. Instead, the Jets could have grabbed Robinson, who has never been a Pro Bowler, but has carved out a solid career with the New Orleans Saints and other teams. Veldheer was a starter for nine seasons with the Oakland Raiders, Arizona Cardinals and Denver Broncos, and he was still in the league with the Green Bay Packers in 2019. Atkins became a Pro Bowler with the Cincinnati Bengals.

2011

Original picks: DT Muhammad Wilkerson (1st), DT Kenrick Ellis (3rd), RB Bilal Powell (4th)

 

Redraft: Wilkerson (1st), LB K.J. Wright (3rd), Powell (4th)

 

Analysis: There’s a case the Jets could have used their first pick to take DE Cameron Heyward, who went one spot after Wilkerson to the Pittsburgh Steelers. But Wilkerson’s 44.5 sacks and one Pro Bowl appearance in his seven seasons Jets made the pick worthwhile. Wright has made 533 career tackles after the Seattle Seahawks grabbed him with the second pick of the fourth round, five spots after the Jets selected Ellis. 

 

Powell ran for 3,675 yards in nine seasons with the Jets, primarily as a backup. TE Julius Thomas went three picks after Powell, but it’s hard to imagine Thomas’ career panning out the same way if he wasn’t catching passes from Peyton Manning on the Broncos.

2012

Original picks: DE Quinton Coples (1st), WR Stephen Hill (2nd), LB Demario Davis (3rd)

 

Redraft: DE Melvin Ingram (1st), WR Alshon Jeffery (2nd), Davis (3rd)

 

Analysis: Coples was out of the league by 2015, while Ingram has been a staple on the San Diego/Los Angeles Chargers’ defensive line for nearly a decade. There are several options the Jets could have taken instead of Hill, who quickly busted out of the league, and we’ll settle on Jeffery, who turned into a star with the Chicago Bears before heading to the Eagles. Davis has had a fine career after becoming a full-time starter with the Jets in his second season.

2013

Original picks: CB Dee Milliner (1st), DT Sheldon Richardson (1st), QB Geno Smith (2nd), G Brian Winters (3rd)

 

Redraft: Richardson (1st), S Eric Reid (1st), RB Le’Veon Bell (2nd), WR Keenan Allen (3rd)

 

Analysis: Let’s get the simple one out of the way first. The Jets got two unsuccessful seasons out of Smith at QB before he lost the starting gig, so they would have been better suited going in almost any other direction. Of 23 players picked after Smith in the second round, 14 are still in the NFL. So we’ll land on Bell, who the Jets ended up paying as a free agent anyway. 

 

As for the first two picks, the middle of the first round didn’t produce much game-changing talent. The Jets got one of those players with their second pick in Richardson, so we’ll slot him in as the Jets’ first selection in the redraft. The Jets could have used one of those two picks to grab EJ Manuel, the first QB off the board in the draft, rather than taking Smith in the second round, but Manuel never turned into a long-term starter, either. So safety Eric Reid, who went 18th overall to the San Fransisco 49ers, is the new pick to accompany Richardson.

 

Winters has been solid for the Jets after going 72nd overall the third round, but a pair of Pro Bowlers went three and four picks after him, respectively. They could have taken OT Terron Armstrong, with went to the Saints 75th overall, but we’ll tab Allen as the new pick, as the three-time Pro Bowler went 76th to the Chargers.

 

2014

Original picks: S Calvin Pryor (1st), TE Jace Amaro (2nd), CB Dexter McDougle (3rd), WR Jalen Sanders (4th), WR Shaquelle Evans (4th), OG Dakota Dozier (4th)

 

Redraft: S Ha Ha Clinton-Dix (1st), WR Davante Adams (2nd), OG Gabe Jackson (3rd), DE Cassius Marsh (4th), LB Anthony Hitchens (4th), LB Telvin Smith (4th)

 

Analysis: The first half of the first round of the 2014 NFL Draft is littered with stars, including Khalil Mack, Mike Evans, Odell Beckham Jr. and Aaron Darnold, but by the time the Jets picked at No. 18, they settled on Pryor, who played just 46 career games. Brandin Cooks is also a first-round option in the redraft, though we’ll go with another safety in Clinton-Dix. Adams is a definitive upgrade in the second round, and Jackson represents another decent offensive lineman in the third.

 

There aren’t many standout names from the fourth round of this draft, but the Jets certainly could have secured something better than their original haul. Dozier is still active and has played 54 games, but Sanders and Evans never appeared in the NFL. Marsh, Hitchens and Smith all represent solid alternatives.

2015

Original picks: DE Leonard Williams (1st), WR Devin Smith (2nd), LB Lorenzo Mauldin (3rd), QB Bryce Petty (4th)

 

Redraft: Williams (1st), LB Eric Kendricks (2nd), DE Danielle Hunter (3rd), WR Jamison Crowder (4th)

 

Analysis: Picking at No. 6, the only other realistic option over Williams would have been Atlanta Flacons Vic Beasley, but Williams put up strong numbers during his Jets tenure, so he remains the pick of choice.

 

Beyond that, the Jets could have addressed their needs by taking a page from the Minnesota Vikings’ book. Kendricks and Hunter both turned into Pro Bowlers in Minnesota. Petty never panned out at a project quarterback, and instead the Jets could have nabbed Crowder years before he arrived in New York as a free agent.

 

2016

Original picks: LB Darron Lee (1st), QB Christian Hackenberg (2nd), LB Jordan Jenkins (3rd), CB Juston Burris (4th)

 

Redraft: DT Kenny Clark (1st), LB Deion Jones (2nd), Jenkins (3rd), DT Andrew Billings (4th)

Analysis: The Jets didn’t miss out on any superstars after picking Lee 20th. However, Lee never blossomed in New York. In the redraft, the Jets grab Kenny Clark, who has 12 sacks the past two seasons. Passing on Hackenberg in the redraft was a given, and the Jets instead land Jones, who was originally taken one pick later.

 

Jenkins is a suitable choice in the third round of the re-draft, while Billings could have turned into a regular on the defensive line and serves as a slight upgrade over Burris.

 

2017

Original picks: S Jamal Adams (1st), S Marcus Maye (2nd), WR ArDarius Stewart (3rd), WR Chad Hansen (4th)

Redraft: QB Patrick Mahomes (1st), RB Dalvin Cook (2nd), WR Chris Godwin (3rd), TE George Kittle (4th)

 

Analysis: I know, this redraft looks at lot like one of the teams from the fantasy football draft you did last August.

 

The Jets didn’t miss when they picked Adams. He’s turned into one of the NFL’s top safeties during his time in New York. However, it’s impossible not to imagine what could have been with Mahomes, who has a Super Bowl ring, Super Bowl MVP, NFL MVP and a $503 million contract to his name. 

 

Maye has also turned out well for the Jets, but Dalvin Cook could have provided Le’Veon Bell-type production without the initial price tag.

 

The Jets certainly want their third- and fourth-round picks back. Godwin went five picks after Stewart and has turned into a star with the Buccaneers, while Kittle, who went in the beginning of the fifth round, would have given the Jets a dynamic tight end late in the fourth.

 

Let’s try not to think about this draft anymore.

 

2018

Original picks: QB Sam Darnold (1st), DT Nathan Shepherd (3rd), TE Chris Herndon (4th)

 

Re-draft: Darnold (1st), DE Sam Hubbard (3rd), Herndon (4th)

 

Analysis: The Jets entered the 2018 in dire need of a franchise quarterback. After Baker Mayfield went No. 1 to the Cleveland Browns and the Giants picked Saquon Barkley No. 2, Darnold was the clear choice. LT Quenton Nelson went No. 6 overall, and he quickly turned into one of the game’s best blockers. While the Jets still need that type of talent on the offensive line, it’s hard to pass up a chance to land a potential franchise-changing quarterback, even in a redraft.

 

Shepherd hasn’t turned into a starter for the Jets, and just two years into his career, it’s still too early to say exactly what he’ll end up becoming. But Hubbard already has 14.5 sacks in his first two NFL seasons with the Bengals. Herndon remains a good choice in the fourth round. Despite his lost 2019 season, he showed plenty of promise as a rookie.

 

2019

Original picks: DT Quinnen Williams (1st), LB Jachai Polite (3rd), OT Chuma Edoga (3rd), TE Trevon Wesco (4th)

 

Re-draft: LB Josh Allen (1st), WR Terry McLaurin (3rd), Edoga (3rd), Tony Pollard (4th)

 

Analysis: There’s still plenty of reason to believe Williams will turn into an impact player on the defensive line for years to come with the Jets. Allen just showed he was ready to make a major impact in the NFL right away. The Jacksonville Jaguars drafted the New Jersey product seventh overall, and he posted 10.5 sacks as a rookie.

 

Polite was cut before he ever played a regular-season snap for the Jets, and landing McLaurin, who pieced together an impressive rookie season in Washington, would have been a far preferable alternative. Edoga is still a work in progress, but there aren’t many other options that have jumped off the page from that part of the draft yet. 

 

Wesco had just two catches as a rookie, while Pollard put in solid work as the Dallas Cowboys’ backup running back.

 

 

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, joewilly12 said:

Jamal Adams turned into everything the Jets could have hoped for with the sixth overall pick of the 2017 NFL Draft.

But what if the Jets drafted Patrick Mahomes instead?

[Bugg]

What basis would that be other than magical thinking? The guy did not bench press at the combine, like, the exact thing a DT has to do every down.  Otherwise he  has mostly appeared to be befuddled and fat. Oh, this season, he really worked out, unlike last season. Great. 

Adams vs. Mahomes, I cannot even fathom that kind of f___ up. 

[Beerfish]

Can we analyze the last 10 trips to the dentist or do analysis of my colonoscopy instead?

[jago]

i miss the smirking of pete rozelle as he delivers the Jets picks.

[joewilly12]

27 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Can we analyze the last 10 trips to the dentist or do analysis of my colonoscopy instead?

What does any of that have to do with the NY Jets or the NFL. 

The colonoscopy maybe because us fans have taken it up the ass for years. 

[Embrace the Suck]

Amazing how many picks Jets GMs* have blatantly wasted on absolute nobodies before or after they were drafted. I understand that sometimes you swing and miss, but the Jets have made an assembly line out of blowing the draft.

[joewilly12]

6 minutes ago, Embrace the Suck said:

Amazing how many picks Jets GMs* have blatantly wasted on absolute nobodies before or after they were drafted. I understand that sometimes you swing and miss, but the Jets have made an assembly line out of blowing the draft.

It's almost like the NY Jets never understood the draft. 

[ljr]

33 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Can we  do analysis of my colonoscopy instead?

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pics or gtfo!

[UntouchableCrew]

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Redraft: QB Patrick Mahomes (1st), RB Dalvin Cook (2nd), WR Chris Godwin (3rd), TE George Kittle (4th)

Kinda makes you want to die a little bit inside right? I mean, forget Adams over Mahomes -- Stewart and Hansen over Godwin and Kittle... Good lord. I can't even wrap my head around it.

[Savage69]

You can't redraft when you know how the players perform now?? That's like saying wait now that I know the winning numbers I won the lottery.. 

[T0mShane]

35 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

us fans have taken it up the ass for years. 

cc: @joewilly12

[New York Mick]

10 - Rob Gronkowski, TE

11 - Andy Dalton, QB 

12 - David DeCastro, OG

13 - DeAndre Hopkins, WR

14 - Javaris Landry, WR

15 - Marcus Peters, CB

16 - Michael Thomas, WR

17 - Christian McCaffrey, RB

18 - Quinton Nelson, OG • Darius Leonard, LB

19 - Josh Allen, OLB • Dalton Risner, OT

I’m too lazy to do more then the first round. 

[joewilly12]

59 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

cc: @joewilly12

You @T0mShane wouldnt know, you aren't a real fan. 

[joewilly12]

1 hour ago, UntouchableCrew said:

Kinda makes you want to die a little bit inside right? I mean, forget Adams over Mahomes -- Stewart and Hansen over Godwin and Kittle... Good lord. I can't even wrap my head around it.

[Savage69]

1 hour ago, New York Mick said:

10 - Rob Gronkowski, TE

11 - Andy Dalton, QB 

12 - David DeCastro, OG

13 - DeAndre Hopkins, WR

14 - Javaris Landry, WR

15 - Marcus Peters, CB

16 - Michael Thomas, WR

17 - Christian McCaffrey, RB

18 - Quinton Nelson, OG • Darius Leonard, LB

19 - Josh Allen, OLB • Dalton Risner, OT

I’m too lazy to do more then the first round. 

Just off the top of my head Dalton and Gronk were 2nd rd picks.. Still recovering from the Birthday??

[New York Mick]

2 hours ago, Savage69 said:

Just off the top of my head Dalton and Gronk were 2nd rd picks.. Still recovering from the Birthday??

We’re still going. I’d still rather have them then who we drafted. 

[Jetsfan80]

5 hours ago, Savage69 said:

You can't redraft when you know how the players perform now?? That's like saying wait now that I know the winning numbers I won the lottery.. 

It's funny how the Ravens always seem to win the lottery every year, eh?

The draft is not a crapshoot, game of roulette or a lottery.  It's a game of poker.  Luck is involved, yes.  But at least 60 % of it is a game of skill.

[Jetsfan80]

Here would be the full drafts, for me. 

I have placed in bold the only time that the Jets actually took what would end up being the best available player at that particular draft slot.  Pathetic how rare that was for an entire decade of picks.  (And as you'll see, the pick was a friggin Punter).

NOTE:  Because I have us taking Russell Wilson in 2012, I did not have us taking Mahomes in 2017 (or any other QB in the first 3 rounds of the 2013-19 drafts).

 

2010

• 1.29:  TE Rob Gronkowski
• 2.61:  LB NaVorro Bowman
• 4.112:  DT Geno Atkins
• 5.139:  WR Antonio Brown

2011

• 1.30:  DE Cameron Hayward
• 3.94:  LB K.J. Wright
• 4.126:  RT Marcus Cannon
• 5.153:  CB Richard Sherman
• 7.208:  DT Lawrence Guy
• 7.227:  LB Malcolm Smith

2012

• 1.16:  EDGE Chandler Jones
• 2.43:  QB Russell Wilson
• 3.77:  WR T.Y. Hilton
• 6.187:  LB Danny Trevathan
• 6.202:  DT J.R. Sweezy
• 6.203:  OT Kelvin Beachum
• 7.242:  WR Rishard Matthews
• 7.244:  OL Tom Compton

2013

• 1.9:  OT D.J. Fluker
• 1.13:  WR DeAndre Hopkins
• 2.39:  RB Le'Veon Bell
• 2.72:  TE Travis Kelce
• 5.141:  OT Ricky Wagner
• 6.178:  RB Latavius Murray
• 7.215:  DB Jordan Poyer

2014

• 1.18:  WR Brandin Cooks
• 2.49:  WR Davante Adams
• 3.80:  OL Trai Turner
• 4.104:  DT DaQuan Jones
• 4.115:  LB Anthony Hitchens
• 4.137:  LB Telvin Smith
• 5.154:  C Corey Linsley
• 6.195:  C Matt Paradis
• 6.209:  DT Shamar Stephen
• 6.210:  DB T.J. Carrie
• 6.213:  DE Shelby Harris
• 7.233:  OT Charles Leno Jr.

2015

• 1.6:  CB Marcus Peters
• 2.37:  LB Eric Kendricks
• 3.82:  EDGE Danielle Hunter
• 4.103:  WR Stefon Diggs
• 5.152:  DT Tyeler Davison
• 7.223:  OT Trent Brown

2016

• 1.20:  WR Michael Thomas
• 2.51:  EDGE Yannick Ngakoue
• 3.83:  LB Joe Schobert
• 4.118:  QB Dak Prescott
• 5.158:  WR Tyreek Hill
• 7.235:  P Lac Edwards
• 7.241:  C Austin Blythe

2017

• 1.6:  RB Christian McCaffrey
• 2.39:  WR JuJu Smith-Schuster
• 3.79:  S Eddie Jackson
• 4.141:  TE George Kittle
• 5.150:  LB Matt Milano
• 5.181:  RB Aaron Jones
• 6.188:  OT Sam Tevi
• 6.197:  K Harrison Butker
• 6.204:  RB Chris Carson

2018

• 1.3:  G Quenton Nelson
• 3.72:  OT Orlando Brown
• 4.107:  S Tre Flowers
• 6.179:  S Foyesade Oluokun
• 6.180:  C Bradley Bozeman
• 6.204:  LB Leon Jacobs

2019

• 1.3:  WR A.J. Brown
• 3.68:  G Nate Davis
• 3.92:  DE Maxx Crosby
• 4.121:  LB Mack Wilson
• 5.157:  QB Gardner Minshew
• 6.196:  OT Dennis Daley

[Jet_Engine1]

Oh, just **** this sh*t...

[Bugg]

LIJetFan; the basis to think Q is anything more than is a JAG is?

I'll wait. 

Again, they took a DT who padded his stats vs. the weak sisters of the SEC on a loaded Bama defense and disappeared in bowl games. He was nothing more than a fat body in the middle of the line last season. He did not bench at the combine. We have been told this offseason he did not work out last season, because this year he decided to work out.

gain, tell how you can justify this pick and how you can pretend he will be a Aaron Donald/Lai Ngata force. 

Again, WE'RE WAITING. 

 

[nico002]

Lmao as wanting a ******* guard over Darnold. You idiots shouldn’t be allowed to enjoy what’s to come. 

[LIJetsFan]

9 hours ago, Bugg said:

LIJetFan; the basis to think Q is anything more than is a JAG is?

I'll wait. 

Again, they took a DT who padded his stats vs. the weak sisters of the SEC on a loaded Bama defense and disappeared in bowl games. He was nothing more than a fat body in the middle of the line last season. He did not bench at the combine. We have been told this offseason he did not work out last season, because this year he decided to work out.

gain, tell how you can justify this pick and how you can pretend he will be a Aaron Donald/Lai Ngata force. 

Again, WE'RE WAITING. 

 

Sorry, I should have been more specific.  The only reason I downvoted your post is because you quoted the entire LONG OP and  and made me scroll thru it again  

(downvote removed)

[Bugg]

1 hour ago, LIJetsFan said:

Sorry, I should have been more specific.  The only reason I downvoted your post is because you quoted the entire LONG OP and  and made me scroll thru it again  

(downvote removed)

Thanks. Wanted to quote the post, and easy to post the whole thing.So I am as lazy as... Be well. 

[Warfish]

TLDR:  Jets Draft horribly.

Few at the time saw Mahomes as what he became.  I can give a pass on that one.

What I cannot give a pass to is selecting Adams over Watson in the 2017 NFL Draft.

I'd trade, today, Watson for Adams strait up.  Watson is better than Sam Darnold, and thus far, it's not close.

Doing so gets me back my 2018 #1 and THREE #2 picks.  That's a ton of talent to add to a roster improved by replacing Darnold with Watson.

No, IMO, that one pick, Adams over Watson, is one of the worst of the modern era.  Not because Adams isn't good, he is.  But because of how much it then cost us to get a worse (so far) QB in Darnold.  

Imagine Watson here, but add a #1 and three #2's worth of Offensive talent to what we already have.

Darnold fanbois will hate this opinion, of course, but if I could change any single pick in the period covered, it's be Adams and Watson.

But if I got to change more, definitely Geno Smith and Hackenberg, lol.

[Jet Nut]

11 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

2018

• 1.3:  G Quenton Nelson
• 3.72:  OT Orlando Brown
• 4.107:  S Tre Flowers
• 6.179:  S Foyesade Oluokun
• 6.180:  C Bradley Bozeman
• 6.204:  LB Leon Jacobs

No QB and traded away the picks to move up to draft Nelson?  ?

[Jet Nut]

13 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Few at the time saw Mahomes as what he became.  I can give a pass on that one.

What I cannot give a pass to is selecting Adams over Watson in the 2017 NFL Draft.

Agree on Mahomes but other than me and Jif few wanted Watson.  I thought Watson was the pick, didnt care about the number of INTs in college, the supposed lack of arm, he was a winner

[BROOKLYN JET]

"Redrafting Jets drafts from last 10 years: Patrick Mahomes over Jamal Adams, Josh Allen over Quinnen Williams; Sam Darnold still the pick in 2018?"

What?

[Warfish]

4 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Agree on Mahomes but other than me and Jif few wanted Watson.  I thought Watson was the pick, didnt care about the number of INTs in college, the supposed lack of arm, he was a winner

Watson was indeed a winner, and I was very much in the "we must draft Watson" camp throughout that draft period.

[BROOKLYN JET]

Unfathomable that we drafted a safety at 6 when we needed a QB and had Watson and Mahomes sitting there.

[peekskill68]

John. Idzik.

[JustInFudge]

If I were the GM of the NY Jets over the last 10 years, this team would be absolutely loaded, dominating the AFCE and a perennial Super Bowl contender, year over year.  

Now because I'm an honest straight up real G, we would have taken Quinton Coples and Mo Wilk and I would have taken Watson over Mahomes.  That said, the roster would be so loaded because of all the other homeruns I hit, we would have been able to easily overcome a bust in Coples and taking Watson over Mahomes.

 

[T0mShane]

Given his resume and who went after him in his respective draft, Gholston was an exponentially more forgivable selection than was Jamal Adams.  

[slats]

17 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Watson was indeed a winner, and I was very much in the "we must draft Watson" camp throughout that draft period.

I preferred Mahomes, but I was so certain that the Jets' pick was going to be either Adams or Fournette that I checked out before that draft. I didn't even watch it, which is rare for me. Remember seeing the Adams pick and the flurry here and laughing. But then oh boy, when they took another safety in the second...  

[Jet Nut]

19 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Watson was indeed a winner, and I was very much in the "we must draft Watson" camp throughout that draft period.

Not remembering that.

You remember calling Darnold a INT machine at USC?  Mahomes, with an all start team around him had 17 INTs to Darnold 13 and that was a problem for some.  That it would be worse in the NFL.