TNJet Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Great youth and competition available. Also underrated talent. Desir B. Austin Q. Wilson Hall Adams Maye Davis L. Jackson Poole Hairston I'd like to remind people here how smart Joe Douglas is. He creates continuity by bringing in guys that have already played together in some capacity. Creating a close knit team is obviously his goal. Desir, Hairston and Wilson all played together in Indy. Wilson, Maye and Poole all started together at Florida. They may even know Zuniga and Perine already. Just great team continuity building here, thanks JD! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbloodblitz Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I see what you're going for here and I give you props for keeping it positive. I don't know how much of this is on Douglas though. I believe Rex Hogan would be the Indy connection? I do find it kind of strange that we brought in a bunch of players from a not-so-great secondary. Maybe it was just bad scheme fit? I also wonder how much of this is on the players connecting with each other. Is it possible that a few guys like our scheme and some of the coaches? It's possible they all have a hand in it , just trying to get something good going. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKnight83 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 A very interesting observation. I think we will find out how much of this will be on the players. I can see it going down as the OP suggests. I can also see it breaking down into cliques, Let us hope for the positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kdels62 Posted July 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2020 I too, am excited to have players from the legendary Colts 2018 defense. 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 JAGS? Yes, but they know each other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 1 hour ago, GKnight83 said: A very interesting observation. I think we will find out how much of this will be on the players. I can see it going down as the OP suggests. I can also see it breaking down into cliques, Let us hope for the positive. I expect a lot of gossiping of out this bunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KRL Posted July 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2020 Not a ton of proven talent in the secondary (Adams, Maye, Poole and maybe Desir) but there's a lot of young potential. Douglas did a good job in collecting the talent but what gives me hope in them succeeding is Williams. He "coordinated" his butt off last year and the staff developed a bunch of "no names" and got them on the field as the injuries piled up 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I look at this group this way. They havent proven they're good but hopefully they'll add to a pretty good starting point for a solid defense off a year ago from Williams. They needed help in the secondary so hopefully they do. I'll hold judgment with this unit before getting too excited though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edscuba Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Logan Ryan is still available 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 On a more serious note. I love what might come of Bryce Hall and Bless Austin. We can poopoo Bless’s performance but 6th round rookies don’t perform at his level, it just doesn’t happen unless that player is legit. There’s something there and I think that’s why Gregg Williams benched him. He made a boneheaded play and then got down on himself, so Williams took it upon himself to teach the rookie a lesson. I think he snags the starting role and becomes a very good press man/ Cover 3 corner. I have no hope for Quincy Wilson and think that the depth chart ends up CB1 - Bless CB 2 - Desir Slot- Poole CB 3 - Maulet CB 4 - Hall CB 5 - FA pickup/ Hairston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share Posted July 12, 2020 52 minutes ago, kdels62 said: On a more serious note. I love what might come of Bryce Hall and Bless Austin. We can poopoo Bless’s performance but 6th round rookies don’t perform at his level, it just doesn’t happen unless that player is legit. There’s something there and I think that’s why Gregg Williams benched him. He made a boneheaded play and then got down on himself, so Williams took it upon himself to teach the rookie a lesson. I think he snags the starting role and becomes a very good press man/ Cover 3 corner. I have no hope for Quincy Wilson and think that the depth chart ends up CB1 - Bless CB 2 - Desir Slot- Poole CB 3 - Maulet CB 4 - Hall CB 5 - FA pickup/ Hairston I agree with everything you said except the part about Wilson. Kid has potential, led Florida in ints his last year, and is 6foot1. The odd men out will be Hairston he was awful last year, and probably rookie Jackson. Maybe even Maulet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share Posted July 12, 2020 I just am pretty sure that about all of these guys are better players than we've had the last 4 years. Skrine Roberts Trumaine Might have been the worst our corners ever were. Complete 5th string scrubs starting. I also thought we gave up on Justin Burris we drafted out of NC State too soon. He made some good plays and had potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 We're allowed to be excited about the Jets?! ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 9 hours ago, Greenbloodblitz said: I do find it kind of strange that we brought in a bunch of players from a not-so-great secondary. Maybe it was just bad scheme fit? I believe Indy switched from primarily using Man-to-Man to primarily using Zone. That prompted a complete turnover in their secondary. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 It is much improved but still shaky. Desir - Stop gap but could be serviceable or better B. Austin - Showed potential early last year but will have to pick it up from there. Q. Wilson - This one is not good imo, he'll be off the team by mid season. In essence I think the guy sucks. Hall - This was a very good get, could be a steal player Adams - no comment Maye - One foot out the door, if Davis is good he is gone after this year. Davis - Hated the pick originally but one of adams or maye is gone probably after this year. L. Jackson - Don;t expect much but he may suprise. Poole - Pretty good player glad we got him back. Hairston - I don;t expect much, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 similar to the OL situation ... hope that the group will come together ... an upgrade in talent from last year ... but still could totally blow up ... or could wind up being very good. the extra positive with the DB's is we have a superstar, when he's on the field, idiot playing there at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share Posted July 12, 2020 32 minutes ago, Beerfish said: It is much improved but still shaky. Desir - Stop gap but could be serviceable or better B. Austin - Showed potential early last year but will have to pick it up from there. Q. Wilson - This one is not good imo, he'll be off the team by mid season. In essence I think the guy sucks. Hall - This was a very good get, could be a steal player Adams - no comment Maye - One foot out the door, if Davis is good he is gone after this year. Davis - Hated the pick originally but one of adams or maye is gone probably after this year. L. Jackson - Don;t expect much but he may suprise. Poole - Pretty good player glad we got him back. Hairston - I don;t expect much, I agree Adams has one foot out the door, and Maye our best cover guy, no comment needed more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 8 hours ago, TNJet said: I agree with everything you said except the part about Wilson. Kid has potential, led Florida in ints his last year, and is 6foot1. The odd men out will be Hairston he was awful last year, and probably rookie Jackson. Maybe even Maulet. I see your good in college point and raise you “bad throughout his professional career”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, kdels62 said: I see your good in college point and raise you “bad throughout his professional career”. He didn't fit the Colts system. Gregg Williams has made average players good. See Jets 2019 CBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, TNJet said: He didn't fit the Colts system. Gregg Williams has made average players good. See Jets 2019 CBs. He’s a press man cover 3 zone corner and was mediocre at that role. That’s the best he’s ever done, mediocrity. His athletic profile doesn’t give much room for improvement outside of that system. What Bless and Maulet did last season is better than Wilson has ever played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 15 hours ago, Greenbloodblitz said: I see what you're going for here and I give you props for keeping it positive. I don't know how much of this is on Douglas though. I believe Rex Hogan would be the Indy connection? I do find it kind of strange that we brought in a bunch of players from a not-so-great secondary. Maybe it was just bad scheme fit? I also wonder how much of this is on the players connecting with each other. Is it possible that a few guys like our scheme and some of the coaches? It's possible they all have a hand in it , just trying to get something good going. Lol so he gets all the blame...but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 20 hours ago, TNJet said: Great youth and competition available. Also underrated talent. Desir B. Austin Q. Wilson Hall Adams Maye Davis L. Jackson Poole Hairston I'd like to remind people here how smart Joe Douglas is. He creates continuity by bringing in guys that have already played together in some capacity. Creating a close knit team is obviously his goal. Desir, Hairston and Wilson all played together in Indy. Wilson, Maye and Poole all started together at Florida. They may even know Zuniga and Perine already. Just great team continuity building here, thanks JD! I thought we traded Jamal Adams and signed Logan Ryan when I saw your excitement about "our new secondary." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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