I Love It (Redskins Fans Outrage) - How Would YOU Feel?

[56mehl56]

9 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

I can't even get students to read the syllabus, yet somehow I'm magically caballing them into veganism. 

Certainly part of the problem and I feel your pain there. But kids today "and I don't mean all" want the easy way out , they don't want to work hard for what they get. They want to be free and yet be socialist at the same time. If someone makes more money or does better than them - they want to be equal but w/o putting in the hard work. 

[RutgersJetFan]

Just now, 56mehl56 said:

Certainly part of the problem and I feel your pain there. But kids today "and I don't mean all" want the easy way out , they don't want to work hard for what they get. They want to be free and yet be socialist at the same time. If someone makes more money or does better than them - they want to be equal but w/o putting in the hard work. 

Not true in the slightest. I don't think you spend any time around young people or schools at all. And if you're going to sit and insult educators by spinning reddit conspiracies don't think you and I are going to have some sort of reasonable discussion. 

[56mehl56]

2 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

Not true in the slightest. I don't think you spend any time around young people or schools at all. And if you're going to sit and insult educators by spinning reddit conspiracies don't think you and I are going to have some sort of reasonable discussion. 

But wait - i thought you couldn't get them to even read the syllabus - you can't have it both ways.

Hey - i'm sorry my point hit home , but at what point did I really insult educators - I said schools are bastions of leftist propaganda just like the media.  Teachers are pawns in this game , I truly respect what you/they try to do. Its the administration and leadership that's to blame  they set the policies and overall direction a college operates in.

[Philc1]

56 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

For the vast majority of universities, money comes from state and local support plus tuition, it’s not nearly enough and teachers see absolute dick of it. You have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about and quite frankly it’s ******* insulting. We are underpaid and overworked to the point where indoctrinating someone doesn’t even cross my mind because of how tired I am literally all of the time. It’s a thankless job especially in this current climate and reading bullsh*t like this makes me question my career decisions. So thanks for your expertise on the matter that you clearly acquired with about 30 minutes of googling, conspiracy thinking, and zero firsthand experience, but maybe next time perhaps consider thinking about the words coming out of your mouth and how ridiculous you sound. 

Burn

[Biggs]

2 hours ago, 56mehl56 said:

So go ahead and take a look and tell me why it does. 

It's probably just a natural pendulum swing from the Kleptocracy that has been a growing threat in this country for years now.  I wouldn't worry about it.  Young people will get old and embrace Kleptocracy just like we did.  

[CTM]

1 hour ago, slats said:

I’m in Puerto Morelos on the Riviera Maya. About a half hour from the Cancun airport. 

Ahh nice, I was going to go into that area for swimming with whale sharks this June. Have you had a chance to do that?

[CTM]

2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Only 21.89 years until God cancels the last Boomer. 

Aren't you a boomer? 

[CTM]

3 hours ago, Warfish said:

As someone who goes to one of those institutions, I can tell you, you have no earthly idea what you're talking about.  

When was the last time you attended a University class Mehl?

Question ,didn't you used to be a conservative/republican. I seem to remember from the old JI forum that you were but maybe I'm wrong?

[T0mShane]

11 minutes ago, CTM said:

Aren't you a boomer? 

Gen X, MFer!

[CTM]

Just now, T0mShane said:

Gen X, MFer!

Ah sh*t, all this time I thought you were like 10-15 years older than me. What a fitting descriptor, we're not even a blip in national power dynamics but may just the right age to collect some of that sweet socialism when we retire before the system collapses in on itself.

[T0mShane]

3 minutes ago, CTM said:

Ah sh*t, all this time I thought you were like 10-15 years older than me. What a fitting descriptor, we're not even a blip in national power dynamics but may just the right age to collect some of that sweet socialism when we retire before the system collapses in on itself.

This is why I cozy up to the socialists now, my friend. Gonna get that sweet preferential Marxist treatment when my time comes 

[CTM]

31 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

This is why I cozy up to the socialists now, my friend. Gonna get that sweet preferential Marxist treatment when my time comes 

Haha.. smarter than I, it is inevitable 

[Bugg]

10 hours ago, SAR I said:

The Texas Rangers are in trouble as that was a group of wranglers with a bigoted history.

The New York Rangers are named after the original owner, "Tex" Rickard, as a cute play on words.  Tex's Rangers as in, "they were owned by a guy named Tex".  Not the same thing.

SAR I

The statue of the Texas Ranger  at the Dallas airport was recently removed. It played a role in the AFC/NFC merger because it was where Tex Schramm and Lamar Hunt met on the sly to negotiate the merger. 

[SAR I]

16 minutes ago, Bugg said:

The statue of the Texas Ranger  at the Dallas airport was recently removed. It played a role in the AFC/NFC merger because it was where Tex Schramm and Lamar Hunt met on the sly to negotiate the merger. 

It’s what it is but it doesn’t affect the New York Rangers.  

SAR I

[Doggin94it]

14 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

That’s nice of you

 

I'm a giver. 

The fact that the slur in question may have started out as a neutral term is interesting but irrelevant; however it started it unquestionably is a slur today.

[Jet Nut]

26 minutes ago, Doggin94it said:

I'm a giver. 

The fact that the slur in question may have started out as a neutral term is interesting but irrelevant; however it started it unquestionably is a slur today.

I never said if it turned into a slut it should be maintained because the term originated with the NA.  

I gave the history of the word itself, how it began and how it wasn't meant to be a slur on anyone.  This is because apparently not everyone uses or sees the word as a slur.  Those that dont include NA themselves and I wanted the origin of the name.  

 

 

[rangerous]

21 hours ago, Savage69 said:

They are coming for the Rangers next your user name may become ous..

funny.  i saw that about the rangers.  i'm not quite sure what the texas rangers did so wrong.  heck even woody harrelson acted in a movie about the texas rangers.  they're a law enforcement organization.  if they ever did anything the woke people don't like, they were only acting on the orders given to them by the governor at the time. 

[Long Island Leprechaun]

15 hours ago, 56mehl56 said:

When I graduated college is irrelevant  . Today's institutions are breeding grounds for leftist propaganda , follow the "corporate" money that gets dumped into these bastions of higher learning - then tell me I have no idea what I'm talking about. 

Ironically, probably the most popular programs in colleges today are business-related. Students today have become eminently practical in their approach to college, precisely because of the enormous cost.  All those "leftist propaganda" departments like English Literature, Philosophy, Classical Studies, Comparative Religion, and History are fading away. And you actually haven't a clue what you are talking about. 

[Doggin94it]

15 hours ago, 56mehl56 said:

When I graduated college is irrelevant  . Today's institutions are breeding grounds for leftist propaganda , follow the "corporate" money that gets dumped into these bastions of higher learning - then tell me I have no idea what I'm talking about. 

You have no idea what you're talking about

[56mehl56]

2 minutes ago, Doggin94it said:

You have no idea what you're talking about

Of course not . Typical retort - prove me wrong .

 Keep burying your head in the sand and try to figure out who benefits from an educational system that is a breeding ground for the anarchists and leftist movements. The cycle will simply continue and those in power will laugh all the way to the bank while securing their precious votes to ironically keep enabling the actual behavior all this social unrest is trying to resolve in the first place. 

[slats]

13 hours ago, CTM said:

Ahh nice, I was going to go into that area for swimming with whale sharks this June. Have you had a chance to do that?

Haven't done that one yet, but it's on the list. Pretty sure there's a tour right from my town (a lot of them originate in Cancun, for obvious reasons). Like everyone and everything else, the virus screwed with just about all of my early retirement plans. ? 

[Warfish]

13 hours ago, CTM said:

Question ,didn't you used to be a conservative/republican. I seem to remember from the old JI forum that you were but maybe I'm wrong?

I have been a lifelong Libertarian/Republican voter.  Mostly Libertarian. 

At no point in my life, thru today, have I ever voted for a Democrat.

I do not see this issue as a right/left, R/D issue.  The fact so many do pains me tbqh.

[Scott Dierking]

While we are at it, you know what is also terribly disturbing, the Seminoles and Braves use of the tomahawk chop. Talk about insulting.....

[CTM]

4 minutes ago, Warfish said:

I have been a lifelong Libertarian/Republican voter.  Mostly Libertarian. 

At no point in my life, thru today, have I ever voted for a Democrat.

I do not see this issue as a right/left, R/D issue.  The fact so many do pains me tbqh.

 I'm with you on the name change. I remembered you as more right than I (libertarian)  and actually thought I remembered you against the name change stuff specifically about the Redskins. My bad.

My comment was more about your reaction to how much influence the education system in which conservatives are grossly under represented at all levels, exerts on young minds. I dont like the word indoctrinate, it has malacious intent build into it, but certainly it's legit to wonder how much influence considering the % conservative representation and strong left lean of millenials and younger 

Fwiw.. My perspective is that I'd like neither side to get too much control or influence. Ideally they balance each other out somewhat or atleast create enough gridlock that they cant **** too much up. 

 

[T0mShane]

15 hours ago, slats said:

I’m in Puerto Morelos on the Riviera Maya. About a half hour from the Cancun airport. 

Slats, silly American question here, but weren’t there a bunch of cartel slayings in that area a few years ago? Is that a thing down there?

[T0mShane]

20 minutes ago, CTM said:

 I'm with you on the name change. I remembered you as more right than I (libertarian)  and actually thought I remembered you against the name change stuff specifically about the Redskins. My bad.

My comment was more about your reaction to how much influence the education system in which conservatives are grossly under represented at all levels, exerts on young minds. I dont like the word indoctrinate, it has malacious intent build into it, but certainly it's legit to wonder how much influence considering the % conservative representation and strong left lean of millenials and younger 

Fwiw.. My perspective is that I'd like neither side to get too much control or influence. Ideally they balance each other out somewhat or atleast create enough gridlock that they cant **** too much up. 

 

I was an English major and went to a few different colleges. I was only once made aware of a professor’s political leanings. How is it relevant if your trig professor is a conservative? You say you’re not “for” indoctrination, but you want more conservative representation among faculty why exactly? To interject conservative views during your Hemingway seminar? 

[Warfish]

24 minutes ago, CTM said:

 I'm with you on the name change. I remembered you as more right than I (libertarian)  and actually thought I remembered you against the name change stuff specifically about the Redskins. My bad.

My policy preferences have certainly matured since the old days on JI.  That and events since back then have clearly changed where I stand on the spectrum of some specific policies or issues.

And on this, I remain a Libertarian first and foremost.  Dan Snyder has an absolute right as team owner to retain the name, the logo, everything, and to tell everyone to get f'ed.

Equally, fans, sponsors, and the 31 other owners all have equal rights to express their own viewpoints on that, both verbally and via their choices in investment or support.

To me, this is the system working as intended.  The name was by far the most questionable in modern pro sports, it is a literal dictionary defined racist slur.  The free market and free expression finally rose up to object to it, and Dan, despite having every right to keep it, instead is choosing to change it.

This is 100% in-line with Libertarian philosophy.  Individuals collectively acting in their own interests and in defense of their own beliefs.  As I keep saying, freedom and rights do not free you from the repercussions of the expression of those freedoms and rights via the expression of those same freedoms and rights by others.

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My comment was more about your reaction to how much influence the education system in which conservatives are grossly under represented at all levels, exerts on young minds. I dont like the word indoctrinate, it has malacious intent build into it, but certainly it's legit to wonder how much influence considering the % conservative representation and strong left lean of millenials and younger 

I can only speak for my own experiences and those of people I know.  In classes unrelated to politics/policy, I've seen absolutely no bias/indoctrination whatsoever.  These topics never come up in those classes. 

In appropriate classes, many of my professors were lefty, albeit mostly only mildly so in class and lectures.  A few were quite right-leaning, in fact, albeit in very entertaining ways given the general nature of idealistic college kids.  I've yet to see or hear anything that would come close to "indoctrination", and universally it has been fact-based, with an open forum for discussion.  My last two professors were both former Republican elected officials, one of them quite high up in the party actually in their time.

I think many folks have forgotten that kids generally start idealistic and liberal in many ways, much to the chagrin of their parents.

 

 

[slats]

8 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Slats, silly American question here, but weren’t there a bunch of cartel slayings in that area a few years ago? Is that a thing down there?

Not gonna lie, there was a handmade grenade thrown into a bar by the beach that was allegedly cartel related a few years back. In the six or so years that I'd been exploring the area, there have been a few shooting incidents, most of which involved the police or military. Nothing like a, "cartel slaying," though, that I can recall. Maybe in Playa del Carmen or Cancun, but all of their activity in my neck of the woods is related to distribution within Mexico and that comes with significantly less firepower than the big money involved in getting the drugs across the US border. Mexico is also much more vigilant policing the tourist areas, and I'm decidedly in the tourist area suburbs. They do not want the cartels disrupting tourism and, actually, the cartels themselves don't want to disrupt it. Their local drug sales are largely to traveling gringos.

Mexico's courts recently decriminalized weed, but the government hasn't decided how that's gonna work yet. It'll be interesting to see. I think they'd be wise to go the full Portuguese route in that regard. The main reason they haven't has been pressure from the US. 

[RutgersJetFan]

11 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I was an English major 

There’s a shocker 

[JTJet]

4 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I was an English major and went to a few different colleges. I was only once made aware of a professor’s political leanings. How is it relevant if your trig professor is a conservative? You say you’re not “for” indoctrination, but you want more conservative representation among faculty why exactly? To interject conservative views during your Hemingway seminar? 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/sns-tns-bc-edu-math-racist-20191010-story.html

Some fun quotes from the article, and mind you they are talking about math classes... 

"Seattle is also rethinking existing courses to be taught through an anti-racist lens"

"Seattle's recently released proposal includes questions like, "Where does Power and Oppression show up in our math experiences?" and "How is math manipulated to allow inequality and oppression to persist?"

It's no secret that educational institutions suppress conservative views these days to an extremely disgusting degree both in the class room and around the campus itself. The UC Berkley riot over Ben Shapiro is the crown jewel of that argument. 

Colleges are vastly different today from when you attended them. 

[Savage69]

3 minutes ago, slats said:

Not gonna lie, there was a handmade grenade thrown into a bar by the beach that was allegedly cartel related a few years back. In the six or so years that I'd been exploring the area, there have been a few shooting incidents, most of which involved the police or military. Nothing like a, "cartel slaying," though, that I can recall. Maybe in Playa del Carmen or Cancun, but all of their activity in my neck of the woods is related to distribution within Mexico and that comes with significantly less firepower than the big money involved in getting the drugs across the US border. Mexico is also much more vigilant policing the tourist areas, and I'm decidedly in the tourist area suburbs. They do not want the cartels disrupting tourism and, actually, the cartels themselves don't want to disrupt it. Their local drug sales are largely to traveling gringos.

Mexico's courts recently decriminalized weed, but the government hasn't decided how that's gonna work yet. It'll be interesting to see. I think they'd be wise to go the full Portuguese route in that regard. The main reason they haven't has been pressure from the US. 

That would make a great T-Shirt 

[Irish Jet]

Ah yes the ever oppressed Conservatives. Not sure how they cope with the systematic abuse and lack of opportunities. 

Must be torture. No justice in this world I swear. 

[T0mShane]

10 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

There’s a shocker 

I don’t wear that badge proudly.

[56mehl56]

6 minutes ago, Savage69 said:

That would make a great T-Shirt 

Or team name ?

[T0mShane]

5 minutes ago, Irish Jet said:

Ah yes the ever oppressed Conservatives. Not sure how they cope with the systematic abuse and lack of opportunities. 

Must be torture. No justice in this world I swear. 

Must stop oppressing people with deeply unpopular social and cultural views, for sure.