Popular Post Mogglez Posted July 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2020 Kristian Dyer Jul 14, 2020 Rumors of the demise of the relationship between New York Jets running back Le’Veon Bell and head coach Adam Gase are just that – rumors. So says Bell in a recent and candid interview with Hot 97. Last season, there was speculation that Bell, the prize signing of the Jets offseason in 2019, had a rocky relationship with his head coach. In fact, the rumor mill said that part of the reason why then general manager Mike Maccagnan was let go by the Jets was due to his signing of Bell, which Gase reportedly was not in on board with. But Bell, set now to enter his second season with the Jets, said that there are no issues with Gase. In fact, the All-Pro running back said that despite a down year statistically, he never communicated more with a head coach than he did with Gase. “OK I’ve never played for an offensive-minded coach. So I’ve talked to him more than any other coach that I’ve ever talked to in my life,” Bell told Hot 97. “So I don’t get how people get that relationship thing – it must have been a rumor before I got there. But since I got there, me and him don’t have no problems (sic).” Last year was a difficult first season in New York for Bell. After signing a big contract with the Jets that included $35 million in guarantees, he put up statistically some of the worst numbers of his career. Bell is hopeful, however, that the offense can turn things around now with a full year in Gase’s system. If quarterback Sam Darnold can take the next step in his development, than the whole offense, including Bell, can and will benefit. “I love Sam – Sam just came down here with a couple of the receivers to Miami – we got two good workouts in. We hung out and talked, we got some food,” Bell said in the Hot 97 interview. “He’s still a young player so he’s got a lot to learn. But I think this second year in this offense is really going to help him. This is his third year total in the NFL and he’s already had two different coaches. Rookie year, he comes in, different coach. Second year, he has to learn a whole new offense. “This offense is not easy to learn, I’ve been playing football for a long time and this is the toughest offense I’ve ever played in.” 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Charlie Brown Posted July 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mogglez said: “This offense is not easy to learn, I’ve been playing football for a long time and this is the toughest offense I’ve ever played in.” This is the KEY line! If Bell felt this way what do you think Sam Darnold thinks! 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mogglez said: “This offense is not easy to learn, I’ve been playing football for a long time and this is the toughest offense I’ve ever played in.” It would be cool to get more details on what about it & why this is the case 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: This is the KEY line! If Bell felt this way what do you think Sam Darnold thinks! We all know that a "complicated" offense is what has held Andy Reid back all these years. "Murray would soon learn that the 15-word plays his teammates were casually discussing were actual components of coach Andy Reid’s West Coast playbook, which sometimes features verbiage complicated enough to temporarily stun even a 10-year veteran like starting quarterback Alex Smith." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted July 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, Mogglez said: CC: @T0mShane Rough day for Glenn and Manish. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, ljr said: It would be cool to get more details on what about it & why this is the case Maybe he'll show up to camp this year to learn it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Maybe he'll show up to camp this year to learn it. Bell was in camp in July last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Is it wrong of me that I could care less about this melodrama? Here is what I care about: Offensive production, scoring points, and winning. I don;t care if Bell and Gase go out for tea and hold each others hands and dress each other up in frilly dresses. I care if Bell produces, and if Gase calls plays that help Bell produce. That's all. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Just now, Warfish said: Is it wrong of me that I could care less about this melodrama? Here is what I care about: Offensive production, scoring points, and winning. I don;t care if Bell and Gase go out for tea and hold each others hands and dress each other up in frilly dresses. I care if Bell produces, and if Gase calls plays that help Bell produce. That's all. Agreed. All that matters is what happens on gamedays. Can we get someone to lock every thread in this forum until Week 1? Thanks 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Daddy Wang Doodle Posted July 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Warfish said: Is it wrong of me that I could care less about this melodrama? Here is what I care about: Offensive production, scoring points, and winning. I don;t care if Bell and Gase go out for tea and hold each others hands and dress each other up in frilly dresses. I care if Bell produces, and if Gase calls plays that help Bell produce. That's all. YoU caReD eNoUGh t0 pOsT iN hERe 1 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 38 minutes ago, Warfish said: Is it wrong of me that I could care less about this melodrama? Here is what I care about: Offensive production, scoring points, and winning. I don;t care if Bell and Gase go out for tea and hold each others hands and dress each other up in frilly dresses. I care if Bell produces, and if Gase calls plays that help Bell produce. That's all. where you're off I think is the team aspect the offensive production, scoring points, and winning doesn't happen from Gase as in individual, or Sam as an individual, or Bell as an individual. Good teams have these 3 major pieces communicating well together and pulling in the same direction to help with winning ... turning the individuals into a team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Hernandez Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, ljr said: where you're off I think is the team aspect the offensive production, scoring points, and winning doesn't happen from Gase as in individual, or Sam as an individual, or Bell as an individual. Good teams have these 3 major pieces communicating well together and pulling in the same direction to help with winning I give a sh*t about the 5 lineman communicating. We've sucked since we had arguably the best line in football and let it all degrade to maybe the worst. Mangini taking 2 lineman in a draft wasn't flashy, but neither was taking every overrated dlineman for the last 10 years. At least the offensive lineman where 10 year cornerstones. If those guys figure it out your 3 major pieces will ball out this season 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 46 minutes ago, Warfish said: Is it wrong of me that I could care less about this melodrama? Here is what I care about: Offensive production, scoring points, and winning. I don;t care if Bell and Gase go out for tea and hold each others hands and dress each other up in frilly dresses. I care if Bell produces, and if Gase calls plays that help Bell produce. That's all. Agreed. But we've had to listen to the litany of certain posters regarding players' extreme antipathy toward Gase. It's nice to hear that a senior player from another organization doesn't perceive Gase in those terms at all. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JohnnyLV Posted July 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Mogglez said: Kristian Dyer Jul 14, 2020 Rumors of the demise of the relationship between New York Jets running back Le’Veon Bell and head coach Adam Gase are just that – rumors. So says Bell in a recent and candid interview with Hot 97. Last season, there was speculation that Bell, the prize signing of the Jets offseason in 2019, had a rocky relationship with his head coach. In fact, the rumor mill said that part of the reason why then general manager Mike Maccagnan was let go by the Jets was due to his signing of Bell, which Gase reportedly was not in on board with. But Bell, set now to enter his second season with the Jets, said that there are no issues with Gase. In fact, the All-Pro running back said that despite a down year statistically, he never communicated more with a head coach than he did with Gase. “OK I’ve never played for an offensive-minded coach. So I’ve talked to him more than any other coach that I’ve ever talked to in my life,” Bell told Hot 97. “So I don’t get how people get that relationship thing – it must have been a rumor before I got there. But since I got there, me and him don’t have no problems (sic).” Last year was a difficult first season in New York for Bell. After signing a big contract with the Jets that included $35 million in guarantees, he put up statistically some of the worst numbers of his career. Bell is hopeful, however, that the offense can turn things around now with a full year in Gase’s system. If quarterback Sam Darnold can take the next step in his development, than the whole offense, including Bell, can and will benefit. “I love Sam – Sam just came down here with a couple of the receivers to Miami – we got two good workouts in. We hung out and talked, we got some food,” Bell said in the Hot 97 interview. “He’s still a young player so he’s got a lot to learn. But I think this second year in this offense is really going to help him. This is his third year total in the NFL and he’s already had two different coaches. Rookie year, he comes in, different coach. Second year, he has to learn a whole new offense. “This offense is not easy to learn, I’ve been playing football for a long time and this is the toughest offense I’ve ever played in.” For a guy that held out, Bell is pretty much the opposite of what you would expect. He seems a dedicated, intelligent team first guy with shockingly almost no hint of diva. Maybe he is diva behind the scenes but Manish would be all over that. Make you wonder how poorly he was treated by Pittsburgh. P.S. Not in love with the "toughest offense I've ever played in" concept for Sam 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Gase must really be sweating that next Mehta broadside now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Warfish said: Is it wrong of me that I could care less about this melodrama? Here is what I care about: Offensive production, scoring points, and winning. I don;t care if Bell and Gase go out for tea and hold each others hands and dress each other up in frilly dresses. I care if Bell produces, and if Gase calls plays that help Bell produce. That's all. 1 hour ago, Daddy Wang Doodle said: YoU caReD eNoUGh t0 pOsT iN hERe SAR I 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SAR I Posted July 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, pdxgreen said: Gase must really be sweating that next Mehta broadside now. Cleans out the malcontents. Gets Maccagnan fired. Recruits and hires Gregg Williams. Recruits and hires Joe Douglas. Handles 0-4 and airplane banners brilliantly. Hangs tough and rallies team after 1-7 start. Adjusts offense and makes Darnold a Top 10 QB when healthy. Resounding 6-2 finish among the best turnarounds in team history. No coaches want out. No players backstab and bolt. Broken Florham Park culture finally addressed and corrected. Perhaps its time to get off the guy's back and recognize the fact that we finally have a grown-up head coach who knows what the f--- he's doing. SAR I 16 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Why’s it the toughest offense to play in? A good coach would make it easy. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said: Why’s it the toughest offense to play in? A good coach would make it easy. Detail shoulda smoked that ****er. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 “I know you watched last year. Sam and I looked really bad, but he’s only 23, and this offense is really, really hard.” Rah. Rah. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Wang Doodle Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Trolly McTrollface said: “I know you watched last year. Sam and I looked really bad, but he’s only 23, and this offense is really, really hard.” Rah. Rah. You've truly embraced your new name. Improvise. Adapt. Overcome. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SAR I Posted July 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said: Why’s it the toughest offense to play in? A good coach would make it easy. "Herm Edwards offense was so predictable I was calling plays from my couch." - Jets fan, 2002 "Eric Mangini's offense was so predictable I was calling plays from my couch." - Jets fan, 2008 "Rex Ryan's offense was so predictable I was calling plays from my couch." - Jets fan, 2012 "Todd Bowles offense was so predictable I was calling plays from my couch." - Jets fan, 2018 "Adam Gase's offense is too hard, what an idiot, we need a simple offense." - Jets fan 2020 SAR I 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jeremy2020 Posted July 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, SAR I said: "Herm Edwards offense was so predictable I was calling plays from my couch." - Jets fan, 2002 "Eric Mangini's offense was so predictable I was calling plays from my couch." - Jets fan, 2008 "Rex Ryan's offense was so predictable I was calling plays from my couch." - Jets fan, 2012 "Todd Bowles offense was so predictable I was calling plays from my couch." - Jets fan, 2018 "Adam Gase's offense is too hard, what an idiot, we need a simple offense." - Jets fan 2020 SAR I Yes, Gase managed the stunning achievement of being complicated, predictable and ineffective. He's an innovator. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 minute ago, jeremy2020 said: Yes, Gase managed the stunning achievement of being complicated, predictable and ineffective. He's an innovator. Run the numbers for the last 8 games thanks. SAR I 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Warfish said: Is it wrong of me that I could care less about this melodrama? Here is what I care about: Offensive production, scoring points, and winning. I don;t care if Bell and Gase go out for tea and hold each others hands and dress each other up in frilly dresses. I care if Bell produces, and if Gase calls plays that help Bell produce. That's all. *shakes cane ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Yes, Gase managed the stunning achievement of being complicated, predictable and ineffective. He's an innovator. Don't forget the screens carried over from Miami. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, SAR I said: Cleans out the malcontents. Gets Maccagnan fired. Recruits and hires Gregg Williams. Recruits and hires Joe Douglas. Handles 0-4 and airplane banners brilliantly. Hangs tough and rallies team after 1-7 start. Adjusts offense and makes Darnold a Top 10 QB when healthy. Resounding 6-2 finish among the best turnarounds in team history. No coaches want out. No players backstab and bolt. Broken Florham Park culture finally addressed and corrected. Perhaps its time to get off the guy's back and recognize the fact that we finally have a grown-up head coach who knows what the f--- he's doing. SAR I Yeah. Perhaps you should try quoting that to somebody who actually DISLIKES GASE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Daddy Wang Doodle said: You've truly embraced your new name. Improvise. Adapt. Overcome. Nah, he’s been like this since day one but his current user name puts his posts in proper context. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, SAR I said: "Herm Edwards offense was so predictable I was calling plays from my couch." - Jets fan, 2002 "Eric Mangini's offense was so predictable I was calling plays from my couch." - Jets fan, 2008 "Rex Ryan's offense was so predictable I was calling plays from my couch." - Jets fan, 2012 "Todd Bowles offense was so predictable I was calling plays from my couch." - Jets fan, 2018 "Adam Gase's offense is too hard, what an idiot, we need a simple offense." - Jets fan 2020 SAR I SAR you are finally getting stuff right out here!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Charlie Brown said: This is the KEY line! If Bell felt this way what do you think Sam Darnold thinks! Sounds like Gase needs to learn a lesson from Rex. Rex always s said to "Keep it likeable and learnable" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Long Island Leprechaun said: Agreed. But we've had to listen to the litany of certain posters regarding players' extreme antipathy toward Gase. It's nice to hear that a senior player from another organization doesn't perceive Gase in those terms at all. Do you think players always tell their innermost feelings to the press? Especially before a season he is contractually obligated to play for the Coach in question? This stuff means very little, it's PR. So cool. Lets see Bell go for 120 week 1. That will tell me something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, Warfish said: Do you think players always tell their innermost feelings to the press? Especially before a season he is contractually obligated to play for the Coach in question? This stuff means very little, it's PR. So cool. Lets see Bell go for 120 week 1. That will tell me something. I think the topic was that he doesn’t hate Gase. Like it’s once been discussed, and that most players do. I don’t think waiting to week 1 for 120 yards has anything to do with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Bell sounds like a leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said: I don’t think waiting to week 1 for 120 yards has anything to do with that. /shrug, I don't think the comment he made have anything to do with how he actually feels about Gase. People say what they have to say at work. If folks want to get excited by it, by all means, go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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