Biggs Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: At a competitive disadvantage as the US based business will be saddled with higher Taxes. The socialistic ideals the liberals in this country are pushing disguised as social and moral caring is creating disadvantages for US based businesses. You could have lower taxes on businesses and higher taxes on cap gains and dividends to offset it. You know what Reagan the left wing commie did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Greensleeves said: You don't say the things he allegedly said if you don't have some sort of issue with women and African Americans. He said enough to have someone register a complaint. Once it was documented the NY Times picked up on it. They didn't create the scoop by themselves. These allegations were supposedly from 2-3 years ago, you telling me the NYT just found out about it. More likely the state of current affairs in this country has allowed free reign for media outlets to continue creating divisiveness in order to sell newspapers and clicks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, RedBeardedSavage said: That Ravens team had the best defense of all time and arguably the best MLB of all time. The Tuna did so in the 80’s... with Lawrence Taylor, arguably the best football player of all time. Both were before the rule changes that devalued defense and placed even more importance on quarterback play. The state of the game has changed. But even if it didn’t, Savage, it’s not like Mangini had prime Ray Ray or prime LT to take over games. I was just responding to your statement had you said unless they have a great D I would have agreed.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The argument is that Mangini did a great job building up the team while he was employed here. It’s hard to debate delusions when those delusions are in your own head. "great" job, and rex did a great job coaching or nah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Biggs said: You could have lower taxes on businesses and higher taxes on cap gains and dividends to offset it. You know what Reagan the left wing commie did. Yeah and I know what Clinton and Obama did. And again why penalize businesses for being successful . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Biggs Posted July 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2020 Just now, 56mehl56 said: Yeah and I know what Clinton and Obama did. And again why penalize businesses for being successful . Yea those bastards both had great economies during their Presidency. It's a shame that Obama was sandwiched between Bush and Trump who both ran our economies into the ground. It will probably over rate his legacy. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, WowOhWow said: are we a football board? what is this... In a topic titled Woody in trouble that touched on everything but football - On Topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Biggs said: Yea those bastards both had great economies during their Presidency. It's a shame that Obama was sandwiched between Bush and Trump who both ran our economies into the ground. It will probably over rate his legacy. We'll agree to disagree big time on this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 47 minutes ago, CTM said: Eh I dunno man, i know it's always been a contentious topic but Trump, combined with all of the media devolving into Fox news level of bias since Trump and social media being highly proficient at creating echo champers have all conspired to push people further apart and entrench them in positions. There is now rarely agreement on basic facts of a situation and even the very meaning of words are debated. We don't seem to any longer argue with people rather avatars of extreme political viewpoints. At the very least, I've never seen it anywhere near this level in my 4 decades in this country and I believe studies have shown increasing polarization. I imagine the below looks much wider in 2020 If you haven't already, check out Johnathan Haidt's "The Coddling of the American Mind". NYU Psychologist who was a former Democrat but became intrigued by the issues that divide us and began to study politcal/tribal behavior. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 On 7/22/2020 at 10:58 AM, T0mShane said: Cuban! Mark C. is a hard candidate to look past. Smart guy and he know how to run a sports team. I'd be interested in how Elon Musk would do as an owner if he had the interest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Untouchable said: Isn’t everyone to the right of Karl Marx a “nazi”, “racist” or “misogynist” these days? There are still decent libs around who I can simply agree to disagree with regarding politics and we can find common ground on plenty of other things. But that has become increasingly rare. Nah, just the "very fine people" who were marching with torches chanting, "Jews will not replace us." 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Division Marduk Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: John Idzik is a pariah here but he was hired by the Jaguars 2 months after getting fired here and held down a job ever since. David Caldwell is on record as saying "Nobody makes as good a cup of coffee as John. You'd be crazy to let talent like that go." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, AFJF said: If you haven't already, check out Johnathan Haidt's "The Coddling of the American Mind". NYU Psychologist who was a former Democrat but became intrigued by the issues that divide us and began to study politcal/tribal behavior. Sounds like nazi propaganda, pass 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Division Marduk Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Embrace the Suck said: I'd be interested in how Elon Musk would do as an owner if he had the interest. Fireman Ed would be forced to change his name to Spaceman Ed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 25 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: At a competitive disadvantage as the US based business will be saddled with higher Taxes. The socialistic ideals the liberals in this country are pushing disguised as social and moral caring is creating disadvantages for US based businesses. So, you're suggesting quality is irrelevant and the perfect free market is actually just a fantasy? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, AFJF said: If you haven't already, check out Johnathan Haidt's "The Coddling of the American Mind". NYU Psychologist who was a former Democrat but became intrigued by the issues that divide us and began to study politcal/tribal behavior. That guys Is amazing. His study on the effects of social media with teenage depression and suicide rates was eye opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, CTM said: Sounds like nazi propaganda, pass I promise you it's not on any shelf in DeSean Jackson's personal library. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JTJet said: That guys Is amazing. His study on the effects of social media with teenage depression and suicide rates was eye opening. Indeed. You shold check out iGen if you enjoyed that. He brings that up quite a bit as well. https://www.amazon.co.uk/iGen-Super-Connected-Rebellious-Happy-Adulthood/dp/1501152017/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=iGen&qid=1595526221&sr=8-1 Edited July 23, 2020 by AFJF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, AFJF said: If you haven't already, check out Johnathan Haidt's "The Coddling of the American Mind". NYU Psychologist who was a former Democrat but became intrigued by the issues that divide us and began to study politcal/tribal behavior. Very good book. Though, "former Democrat" may be a mischaracterization. He no longer works for the Democratic party, but that doesn't necessarily speak to his values. His take in this book is in no way a defense of conservatism, in fact, in many ways, it just assumes how problematic the view is, without venturing to further define that argument, and then presents the perspective that college campuses silencing that view is also problematic. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 minute ago, TeddEY said: Very good book. Though, "former Democrat" may be a mischaracterization. He no longer works for the Democratic party, but that doesn't necessarily speak to his values. His take in this book is in no way a defense of conservatism, in fact, in many ways, it just assumes how problematic the view is, without venturing to further define that argument, and then presents the perspective that college campuses silencing that view is also problematic. Fair point, but I view him now as a guy who is running the heterodox academy which puts him in the middle IMO. He has done a good job of calling out both parties for their flaws. Not many people do that in today's environment. One study he cited that I found to be not the least bit surprising was that you can accurately predict a person's political affiliation if you know their stance on just one major issue. Many years ago it wasn't that way. Now it's just "party line" for everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, AFJF said: Indeed. You shold check out iGen if you enjoyed that. He brings that up quite a bit as well. https://www.amazon.co.uk/iGen-Super-Connected-Rebellious-Happy-Adulthood/dp/1501152017/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=iGen&qid=1595526221&sr=8-1 Twenge is a good read too. I haven't gotten to iGen, but but her Generation Me was a very good read. Her work sort of distills down to the fact that it's more while pessimism is more likely to be accurate, it's also more likely to be depressing. Ultimately, people do tend to benefit from collective delusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 40 minutes ago, CTM said: "great" job, and rex did a great job coaching or nah? Rex was a substitute teacher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, Panzer Division Marduk said: Fireman Ed would be forced to change his name to Spaceman Ed. Why? They can have fires on the ISS. At worst he becomes Zero-G Fireman Ed, not that Spaceman Ed or Astro Ed sounds horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Just now, AFJF said: Fair point, but I view him now as a guy who is running the heterodox academy which puts him in the middle IMO. He has done a good job of calling out both parties for their flaws. Not many people do that in today's environment. One study he cited that I found to be not the least bit surprising was that you can accurately predict a person's political affiliation if you know their stance on just one major issue. Many years ago it wasn't that way. Now it's just "party line" for everything. I'm not going to post the specifics, but his thoughts on more conservative thinking are out there, and not terribly flattering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 30 minutes ago, AFJF said: Indeed. You shold check out iGen if you enjoyed that. He brings that up quite a bit as well. https://www.amazon.co.uk/iGen-Super-Connected-Rebellious-Happy-Adulthood/dp/1501152017/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=iGen&qid=1595526221&sr=8-1 Definitely will read it. I came across him on the Rogan podcast. That's was a great show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Just now, JTJet said: Definitely will read it. I came across him on the Rogan podcast. That's was a great show. He's got some pretty good TedTalks as well. Happiness Hypothesis, which Rogan raved about is really good and I've got The RIghteous Mind too but haven't read it yet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 40 minutes ago, TeddEY said: So, you're suggesting quality is irrelevant and the perfect free market is actually just a fantasy? The perfect free market is fantasy , a free market concept is not. Quality and competitiveness go hand and hand , often times unscrupulous actions from corporations will blur the lines. A prime example was Worldcom in the Telecom sector, they were cooking books which forced other telcoms to lower prices and cut corners in order to compete. The result a lot of crap was rushed to market affecting quality. Sometimes companies can't survive by being honest and focusing purely on Quality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 56 minutes ago, Embrace the Suck said: Mark C. is a hard candidate to look past. Smart guy and he know how to run a sports team. I'd be interested in how Elon Musk would do as an owner if he had the interest. Wasn't Cuban also tied to a sex scandal years ago. Won't take much for the Cancellers to drudge that up if he was a candidate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted July 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2020 I think that's enough politics for one day. Don't forget to visit our clubs! 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, slats said: I think that's enough politics for one day. Don't forget to visit our clubs! We got clubs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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