Mehta Exclusive with Jamal

[sec101row23]

Jamal is following the “force your way out of town” playbook to perfection.   

[AFJF]

Just now, Dcat said:

Every interview with the players (other than Adams) has been 100% behind Gase.

Same for Miami with the exception of Landry, and a couple of others.

Mehta is just using Adams as a tool to atttack Gase once again.

This is Mehta's do-or-die mission: to denigtrate Gase as much as possible.  So what does he do?  He manipulates our not-to-bright strong safety into doing his bidding.  

Despicable.

I've had this discussion before.  There are 53 guys in an NFL locker room.  Not all of them like the head coach.  It's just not something you speak on because it may hurt you down the road.  Ripping current coaches in public is nearly unheard of.  Last time I said this somebody proved my point by saying players publicly criticzed Al Groh 20 years ago.  It doesn't happen that often.  Also, I didn't need Adams to tell me Gase doens't care about his players.  I figured it out based on his reponses to questions about injured players.

And I'm not buying that Jamal only said this because he's so dumb and Manish manipulated him.  These pieces don't happen by accident.  This is a situation where Jamal's camp wanted some things on record and contacted the Daily News to say "Jamal has some things to say.  Let him say them and we'll give you a story sometime down the line".

It's no different from what happened years ago when Mo Wilk was radio silent and wouldn't speak to anyone in the media.  Then, out of the blue, Brian Costello has an exclusive with him when he talks about how poorly he's being treated.

Nobody is manipulating anyone.  This is agents/players deciding how they want to get their message out.  They chose to call Manish.  Mo chose Costello.  These things happen.

 

[GaryM]

What a team Adams and Mehta make. In one article they get to bash the coach, the GM and basically the entire organization. Adams has already said he wants the owner gone too. Who knows if any of this is true, I think he just wants to get JD to have to come out and address the situation. Adams has to go, preferably to the best  offer from a bad team. I personally could not stand to see him on a winning playoff team. As far as Mehta, the organization should just shun him, open no doors for him, he does no good to this team, ever.

[Sonny Werblin]

Jamal is not a smart man. Giving in to Jamal now would only make the Jets and JD seem weak and encourage other players to conduct themselves in a similar manner. If I was JD, I'd call Adams' agent and tell him that his client's recent conduct makes it highly unlikely that the team would ever renegotiate Adams' current deal because they don't trust that he will not make a spectacle of himself in 2 years when he decides that he is underpaid and wants yet another deal. I'd add, that my long term plan is to make Jamal play out his contract exercising my 5th year option and if it makes sense using the franchise tag on him, and only Jamal can change my mind, which will NEVER happen if he continues on his current course. 

[Barry McCockinner]

Gase is balls. Mike McCarthy should be our coach right now. 

[AFJF]

Would appreciate it if somebody could copy/paste the article in here.  NYDN is banned in UK/Europe.

If not, well then eff you.

Thanks.

[JetsFanatic]

Mehta hates Gase. Nothing Mehta writes anti Gase is relevant.

[AFJF]

Just now, Barry McCockinner said:

Gase is balls. Mike McCarthy should be our coach right now. 

Shoulda been Matt Rhule, but either way we got the runt of the litter and he's shi**ing all over the new carpet.

[Sammybighead]

15 minutes ago, Dcat said:

How in the world can any Jets fan swallow any of this article without Antonio Cromartie to confirm the truth of it all?

This is brutal

[New York Mick]

We heard the same thing from players and staff in Miami about Gase so this is not surprising in the least. 

[y2k8]

Quote

The News reported at the time that the Jets had been telling people that they had cash flow restrictions during free agency. The result was predictable: Douglas signed a litany of second- and third-tier players to one-year or de facto one-year deals. Any suggestion that the pandemic played a role in the Jets’ offseason strategy was a red herring. The reality is that the Johnsons set a tight budget this offseason long before anyone became aware of the pandemic.

Sell the team Woody.  

[Sammybighead]

3 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said:

Mehta hates Gase. Nothing Mehta writes anti Gase is relevant.

Again, Mehta is quoting Adams. So unless Mehta is outright lying about the quotes, him writing this is irrelevant.

Our beef with Mehta is he usually makes up unnamed sources. He finally found a source more than willing/happy to talk about everything without any regrets

[Barry McCockinner]

4 minutes ago, AFJF said:

Shoulda been Matt Rhule, but either way we got the runt of the litter and he's shi**ing all over the new carpet.

True! We screwed the pooch on Rhule, big time.

[Barry McCockinner]

6 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said:

Mehta hates Gase. Nothing Mehta writes anti Gase is relevant.

Fair, but we're talking about direct quotes from a player. This isn't some "unnamed source" where he just makes ish up. Jamal put his name on it.

[kdels62]

Jets finish with a better record than the Cowboys and Panthers, with or without Jamal Adams 

[Barry McCockinner]

Mehta should be banned world wide.

8 minutes ago, AFJF said:

Would appreciate it if somebody could copy/paste the article in here.  NYDN is banned in UK/Europe.

If not, well then eff you.

Thanks.

Quote

The surreal saga between the Jets and Jamal Adams might be coming to an end.

Seven months after Adams capped off an All-Pro season that vaulted him into superstardom, general manager Joe Douglas has told one of the game’s most dynamic players that he is open to trading him before the start of the season.

Adams confirmed to the Daily News on Thursday that the Jets GM has indeed conveyed his willingness to move the team’s best player if the right deal presents itself after intense acrimony this offseason. However, the Jets still have not given Adams’ camp permission to discuss trade parameters with interested teams.

The News has uncovered details of how Douglas made a series of bizarre decisions that created a cavernous divide between the organization and their biggest star.

Jamal Adams says Joe Douglas is willing to entertain trade offers for the All-Pro safety. (Matt Rourke/AP)

“It’s definitely mixed feelings,” Adams told the News in his first comments amid the contract stalemate. “But at the end of the day, my happiness is more important. I know my worth. I’m going to stand on my beliefs. I’m going to stand on who I am as a person. And I’m not ever going to change who I am for somebody who’s judging me. Either you accept me for who I am and you work with me and support me or you don’t. It’s okay if you don’t.”

Douglas’ curious communication coupled with Adams’ eroding relationship with head coach Adam Gase created a tension that bubbled to the surface. The News first reported last month that Adams had requested permission to seek a trade before citing that Gase was one factor why the two-time Pro Bowler felt uncomfortable with his long-term future with the team.

“I don’t feel like he’s the right leader for this organization to reach the Promised Land,” Adams said. “As a leader, what really bothers me is that he doesn’t have a relationship with everybody in the building.

“At the end of the day, he doesn’t address the team,” Adams added. “If there’s a problem in the locker room, he lets another coach address the team. If we’re playing sh---y and we’re losing, he doesn’t address the entire team as a group at halftime. He’ll walk out of the locker room and let another coach handle it.”

Gase’s recent claim that his relationship with Adams “has been good since the time I’ve gotten here” and “there’s been a lot of dialogue between us” appears to be the latest in a series of exaggerations and/or prevarications. Adams told the News that he hasn’t spoken to Gase since his exit interview on the day after the end of the regular season (Dec. 30).

Gase did not respond to a message for comment.

Tension between Adam Gase and Jamal Adams was one of the reasons for the safety's trade request. (Gary Landers/AP)

The player-coach relationship notwithstanding, Adams was taken aback by a series of events with Douglas this offseason. The timeline reveals a disjointed organizational plan filled with contraction.

Poor communication and stonewalling engendered a deep mistrust with Adams.

“If they would have just simply said, ‘You know what, Jamal — we’re not going to look to pay you this year, we want to keep adding players — I would have respected that more,” Adams said. “I would say, ‘You know what? I respect it. As a man, I get it. I understand it’s a business.’ But for them to tell me that they’re going to pay me and then not send over a proposal after they said that’s what they were going to, that’s where we go wrong. And then for you to ignore me, that’s why I have a problem.”

So, what really happened?

The details are disturbing on myriad levels.

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In January, Douglas told Adams’ camp that he would go to ownership/management to initiate the process to craft a first proposal for a contract extension. It seemed promising.

Until fissures appeared.

When no proposal arrived weeks later, the sides agreed to pick up discussions at the Scouting Combine in February when Douglas announced that he wanted Adams to be “a Jet for life.”

But there was no progress. Something seemed amiss to Adams.

Douglas inexplicably pivoted after the Combine. The forthcoming first offer talk was replaced with this message to Adams’ camp in the run-up to free agency: We’re going to get him better players.

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The News reported at the time that the Jets had been telling people that they had cash flow restrictions during free agency. The result was predictable: Douglas signed a litany of second- and third-tier players to one-year or de facto one-year deals. Any suggestion that the pandemic played a role in the Jets’ offseason strategy was a red herring. The reality is that the Johnsons set a tight budget this offseason long before anyone became aware of the pandemic.

Meanwhile, Adams waited to receive the initial proposal that Douglas promised in January.

Free agency came and went. With the draft approaching, Adams understandably wanted a status report. Douglas publicly said that he would address Adams’ situation after the draft rather than tell Adams’ camp privately.

It was a peculiar tactic.

When the draft was over, Douglas came out of hibernation to let Team Adams know that he wanted to talk. Optimism swelled despite the rocky first few months.

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Surely, a first offer was on the way.

However, the conversation in early May took a bizarre turn.

Rather than make a first offer, Douglas said that the team wanted to table contract talks until next offseason. In the meantime, the powers that be wanted to monitor Adams to see if he was all-in with the Jets and all-in with football. The GM wanted Adams to prove his loyalty to the franchise.

Adams felt like he had entered the Twilight Zone.

Monitor him? Why? He had already exhibited a maniacal work ethic and produced more than anyone on the team for three years. He had never gotten into any trouble. He was the heart and soul for this star-crossed franchise. He was their shining light.

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Monitor him?

It didn’t make sense on any logical level.

“It was very insulting,” Adams said. “You know I bust my ass for that organization every day. I work my ass off. For them to say that to me, I was like ‘Okay… Whoa! That was little bit too far.’”

Adams was understandably perturbed, but hoped that time would calm the situation.

It did not.

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The GM’s position had shifted to this: Is Jamal going to honor his rookie contract or not?

Douglas’ inexperience in high-stakes negotiations was painfully obvious. He had changed his message too many times to remember, jumping from one stance to the next over the course of five months, alienating the team’s best player along the way.

Jamal Adams feels that GM Joe Douglas went back on his promise to open up talks on a contract extension. (Seth Wenig/AP)

Douglas did not respond to a request for comment.

“Why would Joe come out and say, ‘We want to make Jamal a Jet for life?’” Adams said. “Why would you say that and then not even give me an offer?... Don’t B.S. me. I’m a straightforward guy. You don’t have to B.S. me, because I’m going to keep it honest.”

The animosity was strong, the divide needlessly manufactured by an inexperienced negotiator who appeared out of his depth.

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When Adams decided that he wanted permission to seek a trade last month, Douglas levied the final insult: If Jamal keeps acting the way he’s acting, nobody is going to want him.

Adams was a two-time team MVP, a respected leader and the emotional engine that wanted to turn around a wayward franchise. Now, he had been marginalized by team decision makers, who inexplicably let it all spiral out of control.

In the span of six months, Douglas went from promising to send over a first contract proposal to pretending as if he had never made such a promise, which would have been an affront to any person in Adams’ position.

Meanwhile, Jets fans were caught in the middle.

“I love the Jets fanbase,” Adams said. “It’s so strong. They’re very passionate. And it goes along with my personality. If they don’t like something, they speak about it. Just like I speak about it. I have nothing but love and respect for the Jets fans. They’re some loyal fans as far as sticking with the team. Showing up to the games, wearing jerseys. I respect it. But when an organization starts to disrespect you like this, it’s just time to move on. And it has nothing to do with the fans.”

The entire offseason has taken its toll on Adams, too.

“My happiness is way more important than the rest of this,” Adams said. “I can’t deal with all that anymore. It’s draining.”

Whether or not Douglas is able to trade Adams in the coming days or weeks remains to be seen. Regardless, Adams will report to the start of training camp when veterans are scheduled to arrive on July 28.

“I’m showing up for my teammates,” Adams said. “Obviously my love and passion for the game is very simple. You just turn on the tape and watch. No matter if we’re winning or we’re losing or we’re getting blown out, I’m still the same guy. I won’t change my tempo as far as how I play on the field. I’ll never slow down. At the end of the day, I’m trying to be the greatest player to ever play the game at my position. Or at least one of them. That’s my goal. I won’t let anybody knock me off that goal.”

“I want to win,” Adams said. “I want to be with an organization that wants to win and do things the right way.”

 

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

Bash the owner, GM, HC and teammates. 
 

I say let him show up to camp and face these people. 

[Sonny Werblin]

20 minutes ago, Sammybighead said:

Guys, I don’t like mannish either but he’s QUOTING Adams. Not some anonymous source like he usually does. You can’t go after the coach, GM and owner of your team and not get traded.

Now that he’s 100% going to be traded, what is realistic that we can get for him? Draft picks are nice but the draft next year will be a total crapshoot with COVID, some colleges may not play any sports.

A player for player swap may be best idea. Yannick is tossed around a lot, I like that idea. Any other good players/package of players that may be on the trade block?

Knowing his clearly volatile personality, if you are the Owner, Coach or GM of another team, why would you want him? Hey Mike McCarthy would you like us to insert a guy with an outsized ego, big mouth and history of calling out coaches in your locker room? 

[AFJF]

Jets fans: "Eff Manish and his fake sources. Name the source or it's fake news"

<Manish publishes article with direct quotes from named source>

Jets fans: Whatever

[ZachEY]

59 minutes ago, FlightBoyz said:

Sort of funny as Jamal Adams is the "problem in the locker room."

[AFJF]

1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Mehta should be banned world wide.

 

Thank you!

[Barry McCockinner]

1 minute ago, kdels62 said:

Jets finish with a better record than the Cowboys and Panthers, with or without Jamal Adams 

how do we bet on this?

[ZachEY]

Just now, AFJF said:

Jets fans: "Eff Manish and his fake sources. Name the source or it's fake news"

<Manish publishes article with direct quotes from named source>

Jets fans: Whatever

Yes, lets all get riled up about the words of a guy who outwardly acknowledges he's trying to shoot his way out of town.

[JetsFanatic]

7 minutes ago, Sammybighead said:

Again, Mehta is quoting Adams. So unless Mehta is outright lying about the quotes, him writing this is irrelevant.

Our beef with Mehta is he usually makes up unnamed sources. He finally found a source more than willing/happy to talk about everything without any regrets

He had a burner phone to set up Gase, I put nothing past him. This not meant as a total defense of Gase, it’s meant as Mehta is not reliable.

[UntouchableCrew]

I'm not sure why people are criticizing Mehta. This is 100% a Jamal orchestrated interview designed to get himself traded at the 11th hour before training camp. He doesn't want to be here so he's doing everything he can to force Douglas' hand including publicly criticizing the owner and head coach within a matter of days.

He knows that it will be a media firestorm if he shows up to camp. Every reporter will be asking every coach and player about Jamal. He knows that's the last thing the Jets want, the king of all distractions.

The truth is there's really no coming back from this. He decided to play as dirty as he possibly could, acted like an obnoxious brat and said pretty much the worst things he could to ensure he wouldn't be part of this team.

I hope they trade him to another bottom feeder franchise that refuses to pay him. It's what he deserves. 

[Dcat]

19 minutes ago, AFJF said:

I've had this discussion before.  There are 53 guys in an NFL locker room.  Not all of them like the head coach.  It's just not something you speak on because it may hurt you down the road.  Ripping current coaches in public is nearly unheard of.  Last time I said this somebody proved my point by saying players publicly criticzed Al Groh 20 years ago.  It doesn't happen that often.  Also, I didn't need Adams to tell me Gase doens't care about his players.  I figured it out based on his reponses to questions about injured players.

And I'm not buying that Jamal only said this because he's so dumb and Manish manipulated him.  These pieces don't happen by accident.  This is a situation where Jamal's camp wanted some things on record and contacted the Daily News to say "Jamal has some things to say.  Let him say them and we'll give you a story sometime down the line".

It's no different from what happened years ago when Mo Wilk was radio silent and wouldn't speak to anyone in the media.  Then, out of the blue, Brian Costello has an exclusive with him when he talks about how poorly he's being treated.

Nobody is manipulating anyone.  This is agents/players deciding how they want to get their message out.  They chose to call Manish.  Mo chose Costello.  These things happen.

 

Nope.  This is a combination of Manish continuing his anti-Gase mission and doing so by using the most easily triggered player on the team, an emotional dimwit who runs his mouth before ever thinking about what he's going to say.  Manish has Adams hooked like a fish.  And of course, Adams and his minions think this is another opportunity to Escape from NY.  

Let's see...  so far...  our very own Snake Pliskin of a strong safety has attacked Douglas multiple times since last year, attacked Gase via Cromartie and now via Mehta (thereby completeing the 69 position that Mehta and Adams are now dispaying), attacked Woody Johnson, attacked his teammates who aren't "dawgs" up to his expectations.....

Adams and Mehta are each a POS.  

[kdels62]

7 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

how do we bet on this?

With money usually 

[Vudu]

So he basically said what most of us already thought about Gase...

[chirorob]

42 minutes ago, JiF said:

JD did Jamal dirty.  Jamal acted like a little bitch.  Gase doesnt care about anything and now this is a total sh*t show.  At this point, you almost just take whatever you can get and move on. 

Go Jets! 

How did JD do Jamal dirty?

If a team calls, and says, "We are interested in trading for Jamal", should JD have simply refused the call?   Or should he listen?   What if he was given some insane offer for Jamal?  If you are the GM, you always pick up the phone.

[rangerous]

14 minutes ago, Sammybighead said:

Again, Mehta is quoting Adams. So unless Mehta is outright lying about the quotes, him writing this is irrelevant.

Our beef with Mehta is he usually makes up unnamed sources. He finally found a source more than willing/happy to talk about everything without any regrets

uh, maneesh cherry picks and editorializes quotes.  he has an agenda.  how adams answers a question also depends on the way maneesh asks them.  there's a whole lot of manipulation going on here.

[Dcat]

18 minutes ago, AFJF said:

Shoulda been Matt Rhule, but either way we got the runt of the litter and he's shi**ing all over the new carpet.

utterly ridiculous.

[Untouchable]

It’s truly hilarious how just two months ago, most of the fan base was still defending this f*ckhead as “the ultimate team leader”, “a team first guy”, “a true dawg!”, etc.

Plenty of us around here have seen this dickhead for what he is for the last two years.

[kdels62]

Just now, chirorob said:

How did JD do Jamal dirty?

If a team calls, and says, "We are interested in trading for Jamal", should JD have simply refused the call?   Or should he listen?   What if he was given some insane offer for Jamal?  If you are the GM, you always pick up the phone.

The article mentions that JD had stated that he was gonna make a first offer to Jamal and then reneged and then said he’d do it but then he reneged again- allegedly.

[SAR I]

No new news here.  

Just a selfish player trying to get money he doesn’t deserve.  

Good for Douglas for sticking to his beliefs and good for Gase for staying out of it.  It’s how executives in a negotiation are supposed to handle it. 

SAR I

[AFJF]

So strange how a guy who is an absolute wrecking ball on the football field at the pro level on Sunday's can be such an overemotional baby when the pads come off.

WTF does this even mean?  What does it have to do with a contract negotiation for a person to play football?

“It’s definitely mixed feelings,” Adams told the News in his first comments amid the contract stalemate. “But at the end of the day, my happiness is more important. I know my worth. I’m going to stand on my beliefs. I’m going to stand on who I am as a person. And I’m not ever going to change who I am for somebody who’s judging me. Either you accept me for who I am and you work with me and support me or you don’t. It’s okay if you don’t.”

His feelings about people judging him and asking him to change?  Were the Jets trying to put language in his contract that told him how to dress and what to tweet about, telling him to turn his back on his lifestyle?  Jesus Christ.