Boynton Beach Jets Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 hour ago, sec101row23 said: Agreed. I didn’t think there was a chance in hell JD could get two firsts for Jamal especially after all the BS Jamal has been pulling lately. The franchise is in good hands. I did not think the Jets had much leverage especially with training camp and the Jets do not want him splitting the locker room. Great job Joe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaton Beaver Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, Trolly McTrollface said: LOL. Stay hydrated. It's hot out there. I'll "consider" Douglas a genius when I see how his picks pan out. Today he got back the going rate for top defensive backs like Ramsey, Fitzpatrick and Adams. You want to act like he invented the wheel? Go for it. It's a good day for Jets fans. We're all happy, have fun. Nobody really cares now how incredibly wrong you were. Ok Troll....from Adams getting 100 million contact to this nonsense is a stretch. You can't even see who the real fool is, turn around and look in the mirror. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lot K Tailgaters Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 This was a great trade by Douglas. The key is can he draft the right guys with these picks. In the past ten years Jets have never had a first round pick stick around more than five years except for Wilkerson and that was a mistake to sign him to that deal. This trade has the potential to be like the 2000 draft where we had four first round picks and did well on them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Mike135 said: 2 first rounders is cool. But it's 2 firsts of a pretty good team. Let's hope Wilson opts out and they suck this year. A pretty good team that plays in a tough division in the tougher conference. No playoff lock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Walrus Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Sorry to lose the talent but he had to go, it's been clear for ages he wasn't happy and the move is best for everyone. We got value + so if it was going to happen we came out of it well compensated. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 20 minutes ago, Trolly McTrollface said: LOL. Stay hydrated. It's hot out there. I'll "consider" Douglas a genius when I see how his picks pan out. Today he got back the going rate for top defensive backs like Ramsey, Fitzpatrick and Adams. You want to act like he invented the wheel? Go for it. It's a good day for Jets fans. We're all happy, have fun. Nobody really cares now how incredibly wrong you were. Your schtick doesn’t work when you take the troll angle on every subject. We traded Adams for a lot more than Ramsey and Fitzpatrick. More than 2x of Fitzpatrick (also a safety) and more Ramsey even though he plays a much more valuable position (corner). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: My bar opened up today. Nature is healing. Those may be the worst looking Nachos I've ever seen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, nico002 said: Your schtick doesn’t work when you take the troll angle on every subject. We traded Adams for a lot more than Ramsey and Fitzpatrick. More than 2x of Fitzpatrick (also a safety) and more Ramsey even though he plays a much more valuable position (corner). You forgot to take into account that Adams is better than both of them though. Still... good trade. I'm happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Trolly McTrollface said: Props to you. 9 pages in, and you're the first guy to say "I thought we'd get a bag of balls for him..." Meanwhile a ton of amateur GMs here were saying the same thing. Remember all the "he's just a box safety" BS? Adams shot his way out of town, and after this week when he went after the owner and HC, anyone with a brain knew he was gone. I loved Adams as a player, and wanted to keep him. However it was obvious that Douglas had decided not to give him a new deal. I was always okay with trading him if we had to, as long as we got a good return for him. We did. In fact I think we did great here. Hopefully in 3 years or so we see the benefits of this deal. Lesson learned? Anytime the leaders of the Jamal bashers here ever try to tell you what a player's trade value is again, don't pay them any mind. They don't know s**t. Losing the talent sucks, But we will be better in the long run. All the picks we have into the future will build us for the long run. The salary cap is going down next year so the money we save from Jamal will be huge. Now looking at the Ashton Davis pick shows that Joe Douglas is one step ahead of what is going on. How unusual usually a Jets GM is 3 steps behind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Trolly McTrollface said: You forgot to take into account that Adams is better than both of them though. Still... good trade. I'm happy. I agree that he’s better, but that is a subjective opinion which many will disagree with. Making it irrelevant to this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Matt39 said: Seattle definitely knows what they’re doing so that’s the only reason you may poo poo this. But what were they thinking? I've been thinking about this. Carroll is 68. Last Hurrah? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 57 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: If Q is the real deal nobody will miss adams. But i don’t think he is. No one will miss Adams anyway. Someone else will make up those 61 tackles and I suspect we'll still be able to hold our own against Dwayne Haskins and Daniel Jones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekJet Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, Trolly McTrollface said: You forgot to take into account that Adams is better than both of them though. Still... good trade. I'm happy. Ramsey actually went for a pretty similar package (Two First’s and fourth) Adams went for two firsts a third and a veteran starter also giving up a 4th round pick in 2021. Adams did go for more than Khalil Mack and OBJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LIJetsFan Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Drums said: My exact thoughts right now. I am excited to see what JD can do with those picks. With JD I already think of them more as ammo than picks. Move up, move back, gamble, calculate, get guys you aim for. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Well JD proved himself extremely smart during the draft, and he has just fleeced the SS. Kudos to JD and Adams can kiss my a**. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: My bar opened up today. Nature is healing. Kopi Luwak is coffee made from the fecal matter of the Asian Civet cat. It’s anal glands perfume the lightly digested coffee beans of local Singaporean farms. It is the most expensive coffee in the world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 16 minutes ago, Trolly McTrollface said: You forgot to take into account that Adams is better than both of them though. Still... good trade. I'm happy. Adams isn't on the same stratosphere as Ramsey, and Ramsey plays a tougher and more important position. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Take a look at what happened to the Rams and Bears after they gave up those 2 first round picks, it set both franchises way back. Both those teams are in trouble for a long time coming. I think the Jets did good here and Seattle will regret this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, Mogglez said: Adams isn't on the same stratosphere as Ramsey, and Ramsey plays a tougher and more important position. ahh the positional value thing again, huh? Why do these GMs make these trades for guys like Fitzpatrick and Adams? Why don't they subscribe to the JN value theory? Moggs, I like the trade. At this point Adams had to go, he shot his way out of town. Lets not act like he wasn't an excellent player for the Jets though. He was. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GreekJet Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, Mogglez said: Adams isn't on the same stratosphere as Ramsey, and Ramsey plays a tougher and more important position. Adams right now is the better player. Ramsey hasn’t been great in two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, Trolly McTrollface said: ahh the positional value thing again, huh? Why do these GMs make these trades for guys like Fitzpatrick and Adams? Why don't they subscribe to the JN value theory? Moggs, I like the trade. At this point Adams had to go, he shot his way out of town. Lets not act like he wasn't an excellent player though for the Jets though. He was. Didn't say he wasn't a excellent player. He's still not on the same stratosphere as Ramsey, an excellent CB. Ramsey is also a more valuable player. Minkah didn't get half the haul Adams got. He's irrelevant to this discussion. The Ramsey case was closer. The Seattle Seahawks made the trade because they are desperate and in a win-now mode. Getting a great player doesn't mean that doesn't mean they weren't fleeced. Most (knowledgeable) fans (ex: Not on Twitter) believe we won this trade in a landslide. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, GreekJet said: Adams right now is the better player. Ramsey hasn’t been great in two years. You're out of your mind. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, SR24 said: Beat me to it. Interview day is gonna be a blast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekJet Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Take a look at what happened to the Rams and Bears after they gave up those 2 first round picks, it set both franchises way back. Both those teams are in trouble for a long time coming. I think the Jets did good here and Seattle will regret this Seattle is different than those franchises as they probably have the 2nd best QB in the NFL. They also are an organization that knows how to find talent outside of Rd 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 2 hours ago, GreekJet said: It was a pleasure to watch him suit up for the Jets. I think they should temporarily hold off on handing another player #33. Yea If I’m the guy who assigns numbers, McDougald will be wearing #33 this season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: The Fat Man saw through Jamal well before most. Francesa thinks Adams is insanely overrated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 one of the BEST trades in NFL history. we got a HAUL FOR A SAFETY!!!! DEAR LORD This IS BEAUTIFUL 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 21 minutes ago, Mogglez said: Didn't say he wasn't a excellent player. He's still not on the same stratosphere as Ramsey, an excellent CB. Ramsey is also a more valuable player. Minkah didn't get half the haul Adams got. He's irrelevant to this discussion. The Ramsey case was closer. The Seattle Seahawks made the trade because they are desperate and in a win-now mode. Getting a great player doesn't mean that doesn't mean they weren't fleeced. Most (knowledgeable) fans (ex: Not on Twitter) believe we won this trade in a landslide. The Seahawks got a 25 year old player who is one of the best players in the league. We got picks we hope will pan out in three years. What is "desperate" about their situation, exactly? They have one of the top 3 QBs in the game, and he has at least 8 years left in him. They are a well run organization, that knows how to win. Not to mention one of the biggest home field advantages in the league, maybe the biggest. We should be so desperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pdxgreen Posted July 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2020 Few things from Conor Hughes podcast today: 1. Jamal criticizing his head coach in the press while still on the team was "unprecedented." Esp. so close to training camp. It literally shocked everybody around the league. 2. Players were keeping their mouths shut because of unspoken rule in the NFL about a teammate trying to get his money. But given Jamal was willing to go after anybody at the top of the organization. ("He pulled a wild card.") Going forward... What was or wasn't he willing to say once the season started? Douglas had to move him before trying camp opened. It would have spread to the locker room. 3. The Hawks and the Jets had been talking for a while. But Douglas wouldn't have been willing to move Adams for a first and a fourth. He would have sat on him despite all the turmoil. When the NFLPA and the owners agreed on next year's revised CBA. it gave the Seahawks the necessary space to pull off the deal and the Jets weren't going to wait. Douglas got an offer he couldn't refuse. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Philc1 Posted July 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, Trolly McTrollface said: The Seahawks got a 25 year old player who is one of the best players in the league. We got picks we hope will pan out in three years. What is "desperate" about their situation, exactly? They have one of the top 3 QBs in the game, and he has at least 8 years left in him. They are a well run organization, that knows how to win. Not to mention one of the biggest home field advantages in the league, maybe the biggest. We should be so desperate. “One of the best players in the league”. Lol Adams can’t get interceptions as a Safety unless the QB is Matt Cassell or Jarrett Stidham stick with your Baker fanboy nonsense 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvill 51 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 The only thing I’m upset about is that my unreasonable spite filled dream to let him rot on the bench or else wallow in misery in Jacksonville or Detroit didn’t come to fruition. Absolutely incredible job by Joe D to get more in return for a freaking safety than the Raiders got for freaking Khalil Mack. And if he manages to parlay a portion of this trade into say, Yannick Ngakoue or an offensive weapon, then not only will he set us up beautifully for the future, but also improve the team on the field this season. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 19 minutes ago, Trolly McTrollface said: The Seahawks got a 25 year old player who is one of the best players in the league. We got picks we hope will pan out in three years. What is "desperate" about their situation, exactly? They have one of the top 3 QBs in the game, and he has at least 8 years left in him. They are a well run organization, that knows how to win. Not to mention one of the biggest home field advantages in the league, maybe the biggest. We should be so desperate. Their cap situation isn't the best and they have a number of guys that they need to re-sign. Pete Carroll likely doesn't have many years left in him either. They're going all in before needing to blow it up and retool. That's what I mean when I say desperate. Nothing wrong with it, but when you need to retool, you're going to need first round draft picks. Blowing two of them on a SS isn't what I would consider a smart allocation of resources, but Seattle went ahead and did so best of luck to them. I don't think this move makes them better than SF, and the Rams can definitely give them a run for their money if they bounce back this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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