Costello Report: Adams to Seattle for Two First Round Picks

[T0mShane]

 

[David Harris]

Jets Trade Jamal Adams to the Seahawks

Posted on July 26, 2020 by Jason Fitzgerald

After months of asking to be trades the Jets finally pulled the trigger on trading away star safety Jamal Adams and boy did they get a haul for Adams from the Seahawks. Per Brian Costello the Jets will receive two first round draft picks, a third round draft pick and safety Bradley McDougald from Seattle. While this looks like a wild mortgaging of the future for the Seahawks I will try to make some sense of this and put a positive spin on it and create the overused “win-win” scenario.

A Great Move for the Jets

From a pure standpoint of expected returns and increased cap space it is hard to envision how anyone could see the Jets as anything but a massive winner in this trade. Adams tenure with the Jets has led to a grand total of 16 wins in three seasons. This is by no means a knock on him just the reality of the situation that a safety is not the difference between being a winner and a loser.

One of the ways that you can evaluate this trade is by utilizing the Fitzgerald-Spielberger draft chart (shameless plug you can buy your copy on Amazon if you have not already) to come up with an idea of outcomes for the draft picks and then combine that with some of the salary cap space gained or lost by the trades in the team.

The Seahawks have made the playoffs in 7 of the last 8 seasons so while normally I would assign a middle of the round selection to an unknown draft pick I have no issues here in using the 26^th pick in the draft as the expected return in 2021. The 26^th pick in the draft would be worth a value that is equal to 44.2% of the top 5 player salary average at a given position. The 26^thpick in the third round would be worth 23.6%.  Given how far out 2022 is I would not automatically give Seattle a playoff seed so lets call that the 19th pick which is 49.4%.

None of these players are obviously expected to be as good as Jamal Adams but on average would fit into the situational starter category. What does that mean? Well if we picked another safety with one of those picks the expected return would be a player worth in the ballpark of $6.5M a year so someone like Tre Boston, Quandre Diggs, Bobby McCain, etc…Good but not necessarily great players.

Here are the metrics on the picks using our data.

Picks Acquired	Points	% of Top 5 APY	Long Term Rate	4 Year Rate	Bust Rate
26	1,349	44.2%	35.7%	64.3%	23.2%
19	1,508	49.4%	36.4%	77.3%	4.5%
90	720	23.6%	21.6%	51.5%	29.8%

For a team as devoid of talent as the Jets you can not pass these kind of numbers up. Each pick carries over a 50% chance that they will be with the team for at least four years when you knew Adams wanted out. The odds are very small (around 4%) that you won’t get 4 years out of any of the three draft picks. When it comes to evaluating high end potential there is a 50/50 chance that at least one of these players winds up a Tier 1 player like Adams. So essentially you have a 50% chance of replacing Adams and around a 28% chance that you wind up with at least two good players.

The Jets will also give up a 19.5% 4^th round pick who will have about a 5% chance of being an elite player along with Adams who we would value at the same level as the top pick in the draft. Overall the points on that would be very similar for both parties.

Then you get into the cap aspect of the move. Let’s look at the Jets break down where the options are to either keep Adams and try to salvage the situation or trade him away.

Player	Cap Charge
McDougald	$4,100,000
Adams 20	-$3,590,292
Adams 21	-$9,860,000
Adams Extension	-$64,000,000
1st Round Pick	$12,400,000
1st Round Pick	$13,500,000
3rd Round Pick	$4,600,000
4th round pick	-$4,100,000
Total Charges	-$46,950,292

For the year the Jets will actually lose cap room with the trade because McDougald will likely earn more than Adams. These numbers are assuming the trade is done now and not after the roster bonus due date in which case the cap this year is even more lopsided for the Seahawks. This is one of those things that is going to reflect bad on the Jets for those really upset with the trade but you have to take a long view here.

The Jets free up $9.86M next year and avoid an extension that costs at least $64M. For the draft picks I looked at the four year contract totals in 2020 that Jets will acquire and just rounded them up slightly since we are expecting a pretty flat cap in 21 and probably 22. If they are higher it won’t be by much.  All in all the Jets will save about $47 million in cap space for one year of McDougald and 12 combined years of draft selections versus six years of Adams and four years of a 4^th round pick.

How can one criticize Joe Douglas for this trade when you see these numbers?  I get that Adams has been popular but the trade from the Jets perspective is a 50/50 chance at getting another elite player with one of their draft picks and a good chance that at least two players are above average players. They can also add a free agent who would cost around $10M a season. You tell me which situation will have the Jets win more than 5.3 games a year?

It also gives the Jets a ton of ammunition to move up in a draft and select a QB if Sam Darnold simply does not develop. I know my fellow Jets fans hate when I bring that up but through two years he has been barely average and was not a JD selection. This move certainly does little for the current Jets and is going to be spun as not giving Darnold enough to win while cheap but if Darnold is the guy he will pick up the team. If he isn’t they have to look for a new guy. Extra first rounders gives them the chance to do just that especially if Seattle happened to have a bad year because of a QB injury.

To me this is a no brainer. It gives the Jets two added picks in 2021 while Darnold is still cheap, more money to spend on free agents, draft capital if Darnold has to be replaced, and no more headaches from a player that would rip the team any chance he got.

Now here is the thing I would say regarding the trade for the future. The Jets have to spend the picks they received on premium positions. To do something like drafting a safety, running back and linebacker with their draft picks does nothing to make the team better. Even if you draft an elite talent at those spots to replace Adams it does not make the team any better than keeping Adams. You have to use the picks on players you can not buy and players that may make more of a difference. If this was the last general manager I would have zero faith in him doing that but hopefully this is different for New York.

Why Did Seattle Do This?

Seattle is in a very different spot from the Jets. While Jamal Adams was maybe the difference between 4 and 5 wins for the Jets perhaps he could be the difference between 11 and 12 or 11 and 13 wins for a really good team like Seattle. Super Bowl quality teams should take risks and with a 32 year old QB who is under contract for four more seasons you have to make moves that can get you to the big game.

Adams is going to receive a contract extension at some point worth anywhere from $15 to $17 million and is a lock unlike the draft picks which are dart throws. This is basically the return you would expect for a 1^st pick in the draft as it is a superstar at a given position. The 4^thround pick is a throw in but has some value. It is also important for Seattle to have a player that likely impacts 2020 and 2021 whereas the draft picks will most likely be players in 2022 and 2023 the final two years of Wilson’s current contract.

If we flip the money chart around for Seattle we can also see why they made this trade. Assuming of course that they extend Adams here are the Seahawks financials.

Player	Cap Charge
McDougald	-$4,100,000
Adams 20	$3,590,292
Adams 21	$9,860,000
Adams Extension	$64,000,000
4th Round Pick	$4,100,000
1st Round Pick	-$12,400,000
1st Round Pick	-$13,500,000
3rd Round Pick	-$4,600,000
Total Charges	$46,950,292

While there is definitely an opportunity cost given up with all those draft picks when you pull their salaries out of the equation the net impact will be around $7.8M for six years of Jamal Adams. So while their contract charts are one day going to read that they are paying $16M or $17M for a safety they are going to look at this as getting him for a net cost that is much cheaper. Even if you want to say that this is too rosy a view lets call Adams the Seahawks first rounder next year. That’s about $10.85M in net costs for Adams. I think you can make a case for this being a reasonable use of financial resources as it’s the cheapest way to get a star player if money is the bottom line.

Does that mean I would have done this if I was Seattle? Absolutely not because I can not believe the Jets had any market like this. It is no secret the Jets shopped Adams last year and it is no secret that the highest the bidding went is a 1 and a 3. How do you go from a 1 and a 3 to two 1’s and a pick swap? Especially after the player criticized every single person in the organization in the local newspaper. Not only that but he had a $2.8M roster bonus coming up in a few days (again assuming the Jets are not paying this) which means time was on Seattle’s side.

Seattle has been down this road before with Percy Harvin and Jimmy Graham neither of whom lived up to the billing in Seattle and maybe they just can’t help themselves. Sometimes teams get excited and do things they should not do. I wonder how Houston must feel realizing that the Jets just fleeced the Seahawks for Adams when they traded away Jadeveon Clowney to the same team for a bag of peanuts last year.

The other negative for Seattle is the fact that they did this deal with no extension. This is exactly the same mistake Houston made last year when trading for Laremy Tunsil and the Rams made when trading for Jalen Ramsey. It gives so much leverage to the player in contract negotiations and the Texans paid dearly for it when they signed Tunsil to a $22M a year extension. While Adams will be happy to be out of NY this year I am not sure that he will be happy to play next year with no extension and giving up all that draft capital for just two years of Adams if they don’t want to extend him makes no sense at all. This are all things that teams need to do prior to a trade.

The other issue with the trade for Seattle and this goes kind of to what I mentioned about the Jets above with how to approach the draft is that this is a position that you can address in free agency. In the last few years there have been a few big trades for multiple 1s but only one player (Khalil Mack) was the type of player you would never see in free agency. You see great safeties in free agency. You see great corners in free agency. You see great left tackles in free agency. I get that those two rookie years on a contract are valuable but these positions have an alternate route if you are patient and plan well.

So I can understand why Seattle wanted to get Jamal Adams and can say that he will have an impact on the team this year but there was a different path for them here that could have been realized by being a bit more patient. Under no circumstance should two 1s be traded for a safety especially an unhappy one. We can make a strong case for why they did it but a far stronger case for a better way to do it.

Adams and NFL Players Are Also Big Winners

Adams use of social media and most recently traditional media to his advantage was perfect. He wanted out and got out. Antonio Brown did the same thing twice last year. Ramsey did it though not to the same degree last season. While it does not always work (Yannick Ngakoue cant shake free of the Jaguars) it is becoming something that more and more teams need to be aware of. Everyone is starved for content and I think is fascinated by what players are thinking about the teams they play for. Players have a voice and can use it for many things and this one of them.

If Adams never took to Instagram or made his beefs with the Jets public we probably are not sitting here today talking about an Adams trade. More and more players are going to follow this model when they land with a bad team in the draft. I don’t know how teams evaluate this when they make a pick but they need to figure out better ways for damage control when it happens. Adams absolutely dragged the Jets down and while this trade haul will make it easier with the fanbase my guess is the majority of fans are upset with the team right now because the Jets caused this situation to spiral out of control. Luckily they found a trade partner who was willing to part with a haul but that never should have happened. It is definitely an interesting way for players to exert leverage.

[BROOKLYN JET]

He's going to be a distraction there too.

[BROOKLYN JET]

3 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

 

And the beat goes on... And the beat goes on...

[Dunnie]

Agree with the part about having ammo to move up for a QB next year if Sam doesn't show this year.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app

[T0mShane]

Mekhi Becton liked this post lol

 

[playtowinthegame]

Good morning everybody!

Did we really get two first round picks for Mr. 2-Pick? I just making sure I'm not going crazy. ? 

The below gif is how I'm currently feeling.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

 

Joe Douglas and the Jets just have to be so happy this problem is gone. Money freed up to be spent at more important positions, no more headaches, more picks to build how he wants. Plus a good player to fill his spot, not leaving a gaping hole.
 

Gotta be waking up feeling good this morning. 

[slats]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

 

Pete Carroll is 100 years old and this was a move for one more Super Bowl before he hangs them up. But, like the Jets, Seattle now has control of Adams for the next four years -if they want- at a lot less than what Adams wants. Organizationally, it would probably be wise for Seattle to not sign him long term anytime soon. 

[Jets723]

1 minute ago, slats said:

Pete Carroll is 100 years old and this was a move for one more Super Bowl before he hangs them up. But, like the Jets, Seattle now has control of Adams for the next four years -if they want- at a lot less than what Adams wants. Organizationally, it would probably be wise for Seattle to not sign him long term anytime soon. 

Agreed.  Plus it will be interesting to see if things backfire like OBJ in Cleveland.  That would obviously be terrific for us ? 

[Jet Nut]

2 hours ago, MichaelScott said:

You're literally the last person left on the sinking ship of Adam's defenders. I can't remember the last time the Jets made ANY move, significant or otherwise that was met with such overwhelming support by people on this site. Prior to shipping off this cancer, there has been seemingly NOTHING this team could do that would fail to split the fan base. You're the last person left waving your Jamal pompoms and living in the alternate universe where your run stuffing God is the key to Jets promise land. As someone else pointed out, you're a bit outnumbered and its commical.

There is quite liteally NO ONE on this site LESS equipped to be pointing to anyone else as "embarrassing yourself". Thanks for the laugh, Nut. 

I’m the only one defending his play and criticizing his tweets?  That’s not on me, he’s a all pro who is the best at his position.  Find the errors above instead of the insults.  Because anyone with an inch of football knowledge or can read would see that the trade was approved of by fans because of his off field bs, which ive clearly criticized and the return we got for him.  So laugh, you’re embarrassing yourself buddy 

[Jets723]

4 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

I’m the only one defending his play and criticizing his tweets?  That’s not on me, he’s a all pro who is the best at his position.  Find the errors above instead of the insults.  Because anyone with an inch of football knowledge or can read would see that the trade was approved of by fans because of his off field bs, which ive clearly criticized and the return we got for him.  So laugh, you’re embarrassing yourself buddy 

I always enjoyed your posts.  I’ve agreed with a lot of your points on here.  The only thing I disagree with is how great Adams really is.  Look I try to be fair.  He is very talented not doubt about it.  Pro Bowl safety no doubt about it.  But I never saw him as a Game changer or as great he thinks he is.  I don’t think he is one of the top 3 defensive players like he thinks he is.  

[DetroitRed]

Everyone knows he’s a great player. But at the price we got back and a starting safety, he won’t be missed


Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

[Savage69]

13 minutes ago, Jets723 said:

I always enjoyed your posts.  I’ve agreed with a lot of your points on here.  The only thing I disagree with is how great Adams really is.  Look I try to be fair.  He is very talented not doubt about it.  Pro Bowl safety no doubt about it.  But I never saw him as a Game changer or as great he thinks he is.  I don’t think he is one of the top 3 defensive players like he thinks he is.  

According to this list he's not on the top 25 

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/ranking-nfl-25-most-indispensable-defensive-players/1kppdpaedpm4t1ghtt9bttj23x

[Jets723]

1 minute ago, Savage69 said:

According to this list he's not on the top 25 

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/ranking-nfl-25-most-indispensable-defensive-players/1kppdpaedpm4t1ghtt9bttj23x

Oh I agree.  I just meant Adams thinks he is a top 3 defensive player which is ludicrous ? 

[T0mShane]

52 minutes ago, slats said:

Pete Carroll is 100 years old and this was a move for one more Super Bowl before he hangs them up. But, like the Jets, Seattle now has control of Adams for the next four years -if they want- at a lot less than what Adams wants. Organizationally, it would probably be wise for Seattle to not sign him long term anytime soon. 

I guess they could sell Jamal on playing for Seattle for two years with a smaller contract, with the promise that they’ll move him to Dallas and recouping their 2022 first or something

[Jets723]

2 hours ago, BROOKLYN JET said:

He's going to be a distraction there too.

He is the kid of guy who is never happy.  He wants 20 million per Year.  Seattle fans don’t seem too thrilled with what they gave up.  Just wait until he starts whining which won’t take long

[Savage69]

1 minute ago, Jets723 said:

He is the kid of guy who is never happy.  He wants 20 million per Year.  Seattle fans don’t seem too thrilled with what they gave up.  Just wait until he starts whining which won’t take long

He'll want Wilson money.. Wilson was a 3rd rd pick I was the 6th player taken in the 1st round that means I deserve it..

[Jets723]

11 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Seattle takes on Jamal's $9.9M 2021 cap hit, I assume.  That raises their 2021 cap liabilities to about $156.9M.  If the cap drops to $175M, that leaves them with just $18.1M in cap space, with the following key players due to hit free agency after the season:

• CB Shaquill Griffin
• RB Chris Carson
• LB K.J. Wright
• G Mike Iupati
• EDGE Bruce Irvin
• CB Quinton Dunbar
• RB Carlos Hyde
• WR Phillip Dorsett
• WR David Moore
• TE Greg Olsen
• TE Jacob Hollister
• TE Luke Wilson
• QB Geno Smith
• C Joey Hunt
• G/C Ethan Pocic

Key Free Agents after 2021:

• LT Duane Brown
• WR Tyler Lockett
• CB Tre Flowers
• DT Jarran Reed
• RB Rashaad Penny
• DT Rasheem Green
• S Quandre Diggs
• TE Will Dissly

Yeah, safe to say Jamal isn't getting his new deal anytime soon.  

And yes, I get that Adams' contract extension would get tacked onto the end of his current one, thus not really impacting the 2021 or even the 2022 cap much.  Only pointing out the dire straits Seattle's cap will be in when its time to pay up, thanks to Wilson's contract and a bunch of others.  Wilson is due to make $37M in 2022, for instance. 

Agreed.  This is clearly a win now move for them to get another Super Bowl these next two years.  Personally I don’t feel they are the same team they once were.  They also gave up a Kings  ransom for a guy who isn’t a game changer(he hasn’t proven it) and he is going to shine about getting his new deal sooner rather than later.  For us this was like Christmas but for Seattle I think this will be a nightmare ? 

[jago]

Oh I agree.  I just meant Adams thinks he is a top 3 defensive player which is ludicrous  

and according to that sporting news piece he’s not even the third best safety.

[BornJetsFan1983]

2 hours ago, David Harris said:

Jets Trade Jamal Adams to the Seahawks

Posted on July 26, 2020 by Jason Fitzgerald

After months of asking to be trades the Jets finally pulled the trigger on trading away star safety Jamal Adams and boy did they get a haul for Adams from the Seahawks. Per Brian Costello the Jets will receive two first round draft picks, a third round draft pick and safety Bradley McDougald from Seattle. While this looks like a wild mortgaging of the future for the Seahawks I will try to make some sense of this and put a positive spin on it and create the overused “win-win” scenario.

A Great Move for the Jets

From a pure standpoint of expected returns and increased cap space it is hard to envision how anyone could see the Jets as anything but a massive winner in this trade. Adams tenure with the Jets has led to a grand total of 16 wins in three seasons. This is by no means a knock on him just the reality of the situation that a safety is not the difference between being a winner and a loser.

One of the ways that you can evaluate this trade is by utilizing the Fitzgerald-Spielberger draft chart (shameless plug you can buy your copy on Amazon if you have not already) to come up with an idea of outcomes for the draft picks and then combine that with some of the salary cap space gained or lost by the trades in the team.

The Seahawks have made the playoffs in 7 of the last 8 seasons so while normally I would assign a middle of the round selection to an unknown draft pick I have no issues here in using the 26^th pick in the draft as the expected return in 2021. The 26^th pick in the draft would be worth a value that is equal to 44.2% of the top 5 player salary average at a given position. The 26^thpick in the third round would be worth 23.6%.  Given how far out 2022 is I would not automatically give Seattle a playoff seed so lets call that the 19th pick which is 49.4%.

None of these players are obviously expected to be as good as Jamal Adams but on average would fit into the situational starter category. What does that mean? Well if we picked another safety with one of those picks the expected return would be a player worth in the ballpark of $6.5M a year so someone like Tre Boston, Quandre Diggs, Bobby McCain, etc…Good but not necessarily great players.

Here are the metrics on the picks using our data.

Picks Acquired	Points	% of Top 5 APY	Long Term Rate	4 Year Rate	Bust Rate
26	1,349	44.2%	35.7%	64.3%	23.2%
19	1,508	49.4%	36.4%	77.3%	4.5%
90	720	23.6%	21.6%	51.5%	29.8%

For a team as devoid of talent as the Jets you can not pass these kind of numbers up. Each pick carries over a 50% chance that they will be with the team for at least four years when you knew Adams wanted out. The odds are very small (around 4%) that you won’t get 4 years out of any of the three draft picks. When it comes to evaluating high end potential there is a 50/50 chance that at least one of these players winds up a Tier 1 player like Adams. So essentially you have a 50% chance of replacing Adams and around a 28% chance that you wind up with at least two good players.

The Jets will also give up a 19.5% 4^th round pick who will have about a 5% chance of being an elite player along with Adams who we would value at the same level as the top pick in the draft. Overall the points on that would be very similar for both parties.

Then you get into the cap aspect of the move. Let’s look at the Jets break down where the options are to either keep Adams and try to salvage the situation or trade him away.

Player	Cap Charge
McDougald	$4,100,000
Adams 20	-$3,590,292
Adams 21	-$9,860,000
Adams Extension	-$64,000,000
1st Round Pick	$12,400,000
1st Round Pick	$13,500,000
3rd Round Pick	$4,600,000
4th round pick	-$4,100,000
Total Charges	-$46,950,292

For the year the Jets will actually lose cap room with the trade because McDougald will likely earn more than Adams. These numbers are assuming the trade is done now and not after the roster bonus due date in which case the cap this year is even more lopsided for the Seahawks. This is one of those things that is going to reflect bad on the Jets for those really upset with the trade but you have to take a long view here.

The Jets free up $9.86M next year and avoid an extension that costs at least $64M. For the draft picks I looked at the four year contract totals in 2020 that Jets will acquire and just rounded them up slightly since we are expecting a pretty flat cap in 21 and probably 22. If they are higher it won’t be by much.  All in all the Jets will save about $47 million in cap space for one year of McDougald and 12 combined years of draft selections versus six years of Adams and four years of a 4^th round pick.

How can one criticize Joe Douglas for this trade when you see these numbers?  I get that Adams has been popular but the trade from the Jets perspective is a 50/50 chance at getting another elite player with one of their draft picks and a good chance that at least two players are above average players. They can also add a free agent who would cost around $10M a season. You tell me which situation will have the Jets win more than 5.3 games a year?

It also gives the Jets a ton of ammunition to move up in a draft and select a QB if Sam Darnold simply does not develop. I know my fellow Jets fans hate when I bring that up but through two years he has been barely average and was not a JD selection. This move certainly does little for the current Jets and is going to be spun as not giving Darnold enough to win while cheap but if Darnold is the guy he will pick up the team. If he isn’t they have to look for a new guy. Extra first rounders gives them the chance to do just that especially if Seattle happened to have a bad year because of a QB injury.

To me this is a no brainer. It gives the Jets two added picks in 2021 while Darnold is still cheap, more money to spend on free agents, draft capital if Darnold has to be replaced, and no more headaches from a player that would rip the team any chance he got.

Now here is the thing I would say regarding the trade for the future. The Jets have to spend the picks they received on premium positions. To do something like drafting a safety, running back and linebacker with their draft picks does nothing to make the team better. Even if you draft an elite talent at those spots to replace Adams it does not make the team any better than keeping Adams. You have to use the picks on players you can not buy and players that may make more of a difference. If this was the last general manager I would have zero faith in him doing that but hopefully this is different for New York.

Why Did Seattle Do This?

Seattle is in a very different spot from the Jets. While Jamal Adams was maybe the difference between 4 and 5 wins for the Jets perhaps he could be the difference between 11 and 12 or 11 and 13 wins for a really good team like Seattle. Super Bowl quality teams should take risks and with a 32 year old QB who is under contract for four more seasons you have to make moves that can get you to the big game.

Adams is going to receive a contract extension at some point worth anywhere from $15 to $17 million and is a lock unlike the draft picks which are dart throws. This is basically the return you would expect for a 1^st pick in the draft as it is a superstar at a given position. The 4^thround pick is a throw in but has some value. It is also important for Seattle to have a player that likely impacts 2020 and 2021 whereas the draft picks will most likely be players in 2022 and 2023 the final two years of Wilson’s current contract.

If we flip the money chart around for Seattle we can also see why they made this trade. Assuming of course that they extend Adams here are the Seahawks financials.

Player	Cap Charge
McDougald	-$4,100,000
Adams 20	$3,590,292
Adams 21	$9,860,000
Adams Extension	$64,000,000
4th Round Pick	$4,100,000
1st Round Pick	-$12,400,000
1st Round Pick	-$13,500,000
3rd Round Pick	-$4,600,000
Total Charges	$46,950,292

While there is definitely an opportunity cost given up with all those draft picks when you pull their salaries out of the equation the net impact will be around $7.8M for six years of Jamal Adams. So while their contract charts are one day going to read that they are paying $16M or $17M for a safety they are going to look at this as getting him for a net cost that is much cheaper. Even if you want to say that this is too rosy a view lets call Adams the Seahawks first rounder next year. That’s about $10.85M in net costs for Adams. I think you can make a case for this being a reasonable use of financial resources as it’s the cheapest way to get a star player if money is the bottom line.

Does that mean I would have done this if I was Seattle? Absolutely not because I can not believe the Jets had any market like this. It is no secret the Jets shopped Adams last year and it is no secret that the highest the bidding went is a 1 and a 3. How do you go from a 1 and a 3 to two 1’s and a pick swap? Especially after the player criticized every single person in the organization in the local newspaper. Not only that but he had a $2.8M roster bonus coming up in a few days (again assuming the Jets are not paying this) which means time was on Seattle’s side.

Seattle has been down this road before with Percy Harvin and Jimmy Graham neither of whom lived up to the billing in Seattle and maybe they just can’t help themselves. Sometimes teams get excited and do things they should not do. I wonder how Houston must feel realizing that the Jets just fleeced the Seahawks for Adams when they traded away Jadeveon Clowney to the same team for a bag of peanuts last year.

The other negative for Seattle is the fact that they did this deal with no extension. This is exactly the same mistake Houston made last year when trading for Laremy Tunsil and the Rams made when trading for Jalen Ramsey. It gives so much leverage to the player in contract negotiations and the Texans paid dearly for it when they signed Tunsil to a $22M a year extension. While Adams will be happy to be out of NY this year I am not sure that he will be happy to play next year with no extension and giving up all that draft capital for just two years of Adams if they don’t want to extend him makes no sense at all. This are all things that teams need to do prior to a trade.

The other issue with the trade for Seattle and this goes kind of to what I mentioned about the Jets above with how to approach the draft is that this is a position that you can address in free agency. In the last few years there have been a few big trades for multiple 1s but only one player (Khalil Mack) was the type of player you would never see in free agency. You see great safeties in free agency. You see great corners in free agency. You see great left tackles in free agency. I get that those two rookie years on a contract are valuable but these positions have an alternate route if you are patient and plan well.

So I can understand why Seattle wanted to get Jamal Adams and can say that he will have an impact on the team this year but there was a different path for them here that could have been realized by being a bit more patient. Under no circumstance should two 1s be traded for a safety especially an unhappy one. We can make a strong case for why they did it but a far stronger case for a better way to do it.

Adams and NFL Players Are Also Big Winners

Adams use of social media and most recently traditional media to his advantage was perfect. He wanted out and got out. Antonio Brown did the same thing twice last year. Ramsey did it though not to the same degree last season. While it does not always work (Yannick Ngakoue cant shake free of the Jaguars) it is becoming something that more and more teams need to be aware of. Everyone is starved for content and I think is fascinated by what players are thinking about the teams they play for. Players have a voice and can use it for many things and this one of them.

If Adams never took to Instagram or made his beefs with the Jets public we probably are not sitting here today talking about an Adams trade. More and more players are going to follow this model when they land with a bad team in the draft. I don’t know how teams evaluate this when they make a pick but they need to figure out better ways for damage control when it happens. Adams absolutely dragged the Jets down and while this trade haul will make it easier with the fanbase my guess is the majority of fans are upset with the team right now because the Jets caused this situation to spiral out of control. Luckily they found a trade partner who was willing to part with a haul but that never should have happened. It is definitely an interesting way for players to exert leverage.

I don't get the last paragraph  here. I don't think jet fans are mad at all. I think most knew he was a goner when he told the gm how to do his job and cried last year about someone calling with a trade offer. The whole situation  was on Adam's not the jets.

Great move by the jets glad they got rid of the bad apples. Glad jd is running things. Robbie was bad for the team,  Adam's was bad for the team albeit in very different  ways. This is all a win win. There is just one more very obvious thing left to get rid of....

[Embrace the Suck]

Twitter noise is working for the players currently. However, that ploy may start working against them though as teams will start becoming reluctant to sign players to contracts with big guaranteed money, particularly to known social media personalities. If GMs and owners start seeing more players not playing out their contract while using social media against the organization after they got their guaranteed money they will start offering shorter contracts with less money knowing players are gaming the system. The fans who buy tickets, jerseys, trinkets, overpriced food and beer, parking passes, and watch on tv will probably start souring initially on individual players such as Adams, but as more players take that route the fans and may stop providing revenue as they get tired of overgrown children making millions per year complaining that they don't feel appreciated. Many fans are turning on sports/spoiled athletes already and while it may only be a trickle it will grow as social media is a two way street. 

[Jet Nut]

1 hour ago, Jets723 said:

I always enjoyed your posts.  I’ve agreed with a lot of your points on here.  The only thing I disagree with is how great Adams really is.  Look I try to be fair.  He is very talented not doubt about it.  Pro Bowl safety no doubt about it.  But I never saw him as a Game changer or as great he thinks he is.  I don’t think he is one of the top 3 defensive players like he thinks he is.  

Thanks

He’s a 2 time pro bowl and an all pro for more prestige. 
30 GMs voted him tops at his position.  He’s been a weapon for GWilliams

Thats it, I don’t have him in the HOF, I have a pretty firm handle on what he is.  I hate when someone wants to argue how he sucks in coverage or that his sacks really weren’t sacks by him.  He’s the best player on the D by far, not close so he has to be a game changer on some level.  Every player in that unit managed to be a top D and specifically the run, where he was deployed by Williams 

As I’ve said, many times, he as a dick down the end here and because of his going to far dissing the owner, HC and GM he has to go and good riddance to him, I hope he’s miserable and regrets forcing the trade ala Strawberry leaving the Mets

[TheNuuFaaolaExperience]

I wasn't too far off. JD took my post with him to the negotiation table. 

[Jets723]

1 minute ago, Jet Nut said:

Thanks

He’s a 2 time pro bowl and an all pro for more prestige. 
30 GMs voted him tops at his position.  He’s been a weapon for GWilliams

Thats it, I don’t have him in the HOF, I have a pretty firm handle on what he is.  I hate when someone wants to argue how he sucks in coverage or that his sacks really weren’t sacks by him.  He’s the best player on the D by far, not close so he has to be a game changer on some level.  Every player in that unit managed to be a top D and specifically the run, where he was deployed by Williams 

As I’ve said, many times, he as a dick down the end here and because of his going to far dissing the owner, HC and GM he has to go and good riddance to him, I hope he’s miserable and regrets forcing the trade ala Strawberry leaving the Mets

Honestly I felt if CJ Mosley was healthy He would have been our best defensive player.  He was flat out dominant against a Buffalo before getting hurt.  So I have to agree to disagree with you on that.  Adams is very talented but objectively he isn’t this monster defensive player 

[Savage69]

1 hour ago, slats said:

Pete Carroll is 100 years old and this was a move for one more Super Bowl before he hangs them up. But, like the Jets, Seattle now has control of Adams for the next four years -if they want- at a lot less than what Adams wants. Organizationally, it would probably be wise for Seattle to not sign him long term anytime soon. 

That would make BB 100 also since they are both 68..

[Biggs]

Just now, Savage69 said:

That would make BB 100 also since they are both 68..

According to SS 68 is the new 66.

[slats]

Just now, Savage69 said:

That would make BB 100 also since they are both 68..

I feel like I hit a nerve. I guess 69 isn’t just a sexual position anymore? ?

[Savage69]

1 minute ago, slats said:

I feel like I hit a nerve. I guess 69 isn’t just a sexual position anymore? ?

It's funny the 69 actually stands for what happened on Jan 12 1969 but everyone has the same take as you..

[Embrace the Suck]

21 minutes ago, Savage69 said:

It's funny the 69 actually stands for what happened on Jan 12 1969 but everyone has the same take as you..

When you have a sexy from the rear woman holding a glass of champagne with her butt as your ID picture assumptions will be made.

[Savage69]

12 minutes ago, Embrace the Suck said:

When you have a sexy from the rear woman holding a glass of champagne with her butt as your ID picture assumptions will be made.

Who wouldn't celebrate a Bowl win with some nice female butt and some bubbly..  

[Embrace the Suck]

5 minutes ago, Savage69 said:

Who wouldn't celebrate a Bowl win with some nice female butt and some bubbly..  

[Jetsfan80]

12 hours ago, CTM said:

Awesome! JD gets major cred. They will likely be low 1's but honestly didnt think you'd get 2 #1's ever. Great job.

Dumb trade for seattle unless the win a SB next 2 years 

And even if they win a SB, it won't be because of Jamal's awesome Box Safetying.

[Spoot-Face]

I ignore the site for one day and this happens!? Holy sh*t!

This is like sleeping for 24 hours and waking up to find Beyonce divorced Jay-Z, moved in with you, and has made bacon and pancakes for breakfast!!!

[Arsis]