JetsLife Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 There is no defending the dearth of WR talent in the WR room. Joe D speaks of doing all he can to support Sam - then he presents him with one of the worst WR corps in the league? What happens when one of the top 2 go out? Pats cast off Braxton Berrios rides in to the rescue? It’s Maccagnan-esque. And why are the Jets so very far under the cap? If we’re all in on 2020 why couldn’t we afford Robby and the rest of our WR corps? If Joe D’s honest answer is we’re not all in on 2020 - that raises a red flag is he will never prove to be the man for this job. It shows a fatal conservatism streak. Hopefully then he has other grander reasons. “If they don’t bite when they’re puppies, they’re never gonna bite.” - Parcells 13 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bealeb319 Posted August 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2020 How many all pros do you expect a gm to aquire in one year? He got us a second round wr this year why don't we see what happens and judge him a bit more next year?Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app 10 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sirlancemehlot Posted August 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2020 What is Macagnan-esque is taking all of your cap resources and throwing it away on short term mercenaries and one year rentals. That's how Mac started his tenure as Jets GM. He signed Revis, Buster Skrine, James Carpenter, Antonio Cromartie, Marcus Gilchrist, Erin Henderson, Stephen Ridley, Matt Flynn and a dozen or more others the minute he walked in the door, effectively doomin the roster for years to come and pissing away his cap space like it was his job. Nothing about Joe D. MacCagnan-esque. 18 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GREENBEAN Posted August 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2020 There is no defending the dearth of WR talent in the WR room. Joe D speaks of doing all he can to support Sam - then he presents him with one of the worst WR corps in the league? What happens when one of the top 2 go out? Pats cast off Braxton Berrios rides in to the rescue? It’s Maccagnan-esque. And why are the Jets so very far under the cap? If we’re all in on 2020 why couldn’t we afford Robby and the rest of our WR corps? If Joe D’s honest answer is we’re not all in on 2020 - that raises a red flag is he will never prove to be the man for this job. It shows a fatal conservatism streak. Hopefully then he has other grander reasons. “If they don’t bite when they’re puppies, they’re never gonna bite.” - ParcellsWhile I rarely argue with[mention=5358]bitonti[/mention] I somewhat disagree. Joe Douglass brought 5, including udfa, new WR’s in this year. 2 were former 1st rd picks, one of which lit up the NFL the last half of 2019. All oFthe WR’s brought In are 6’2” or taller I’ll add. JD brought in 6 new OL men not including the UDFA Hilbers. He also brought in 5 new DB’s to add to the Defensive weakness. We have to give this guy time man. I wanted to see RA Re signed as much as the next guy but it didn’t happen. We have no idea what the real deal was behind the scenes. Don’t forget there were reports that Robbie wanted out and had his bags packed. If that’s the case he was going to need a lot more than the $10 mil per to stay. This is jd’s first offseason as the boss. Can we take a breath? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted August 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2020 Pissed he didn’t sign Julio Jones 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wonderboy Posted August 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2020 30 minutes ago, JetsLife said: There is no defending the dearth of WR talent in the WR room. Joe D speaks of doing all he can to support Sam - then he presents him with one of the worst WR corps in the league? What happens when one of the top 2 go out? Pats cast off Braxton Berrios rides in to the rescue? It’s Maccagnan-esque. And why are the Jets so very far under the cap? If we’re all in on 2020 why couldn’t we afford Robby and the rest of our WR corps? If Joe D’s honest answer is we’re not all in on 2020 - that raises a red flag is he will never prove to be the man for this job. It shows a fatal conservatism streak. Hopefully then he has other grander reasons. “If they don’t bite when they’re puppies, they’re never gonna bite.” - Parcells Can Max please bring back the buttfumble. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rhg1084 Posted August 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2020 This wasn’t going to be a full rebuild in just one year. I feel like JD main focus this year was getting the OLine fixed. It wouldn’t have been wise to draft either Jeudy/Lamb/Ruggs over Mt Becton imo. Without a good O Line it doesn’t matter who the WRs are. He did some patch work bringing in Perriman and drafting Mims. Next year fully expect him to invest heavy resources in the WR position. Whether that means using one of the 1sts on a WR. Or bringing in a guy like Godwin or JuJu. This year we get to see if Perriman can be the real deal. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jet_Engine1 Posted August 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2020 42 minutes ago, JetsLife said: There is no defending the dearth of WR talent in the WR room. Joe D speaks of doing all he can to support Sam - then he presents him with one of the worst WR corps in the league? What happens when one of the top 2 go out? Pats cast off Braxton Berrios rides in to the rescue? It’s Maccagnan-esque. And why are the Jets so very far under the cap? If we’re all in on 2020 why couldn’t we afford Robby and the rest of our WR corps? If Joe D’s honest answer is we’re not all in on 2020 - that raises a red flag is he will never prove to be the man for this job. It shows a fatal conservatism streak. Hopefully then he has other grander reasons. “If they don’t bite when they’re puppies, they’re never gonna bite.” - Parcells Come up for air, Pal. Between Tannenbaum, Idzik and Mac, the Jets drafted zero legit prospects at WR. JD has been GM for a year now. In that time, they signed a metric sh*tload of FA prospects (Doctson, Smith, Smith, Berrios, DT, and Perriman) and let a former UDFA knucklehead walk after refusing to give a stupid guy stupid money, and then actually drafted a legit elite WR Prospect. All concurrent with a huge rebuild of the completely neglected O line. Stop it. You sound stupid. 8 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 OP isn’t wrong. Our WR core is a lot of “hope and prayer” crowder is only proven WR. Periman has been underwhelming had a few great games and a lot of meh Mims rookie with hamstring. Kid could be legit. pick a smith - Vincent make a splash play here and there. Jeff has speed. Neither are dudes. More JAGs with speed berrios is a PR that can play the slot but jury is out on him as legit WR. Doctson. Lol. Bust. Lucky there was an “opt out” option. JETS should add another WR. And I think D Thomas should be brought back - for sure to help the young guys and he is still able to play. Not the #1 he was but good enough To make plays. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 hour ago, JetsLife said: There is no defending the dearth of WR talent in the WR room. Joe D speaks of doing all he can to support Sam - then he presents him with one of the worst WR corps in the league? What happens when one of the top 2 go out? Pats cast off Braxton Berrios rides in to the rescue? It’s Maccagnan-esque. And why are the Jets so very far under the cap? If we’re all in on 2020 why couldn’t we afford Robby and the rest of our WR corps? If Joe D’s honest answer is we’re not all in on 2020 - that raises a red flag is he will never prove to be the man for this job. It shows a fatal conservatism streak. Hopefully then he has other grander reasons. “If they don’t bite when they’re puppies, they’re never gonna bite.” - Parcells The unsure nature of the season due to covid means we should be shrewd with cap money. Its a SMART thing to do, and next year we can afford to build an even better roster. Im intrigued with the WRs we have this year and I cant wait to see how they pan out. If they all bomb (unlikely), then people can complain about JD and his choices. Lets see what plays out first though, its the smart thing to do. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 I like JD, but sometimes I wonder if he is trying to win the value game and not the games won game. He did not approach this season to try and make the playoffs, at least in my opinion. Signing RA would have supported that, as would have keeping Adams. He seems to building a team that will start looking decent years 3-4 of his 6 year contract. It could be too slow and cost Gase his job, although Gase will help to get himself fired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 My only issue is him not drafting a 2nd wr in the draft that was deep with WRs. He should have for sure double dipped at wr. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 My only issue is him not drafting a 2nd wr in the draft that was deep with WRs. He should have for sure double dipped at wr.I agree with this. It’s really the one issue I have. Secondarily I would have liked to see the 6th rd pick used on a draftee than the colts CB but that’s about it. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 I think the teams higher on Vincent Smith than we all are. I also don’t see why adding a guy like Demaryus Thomas is a bad idea either though he was somewhat productive and was well liked 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets8 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Who is Bittany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lurker89 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 JFC with never ending tears for THE Robby Anderson... This team sucked with him and will suck without him. There were no magic turn the Jets around FA signings to be made this off-season. I'm not sad Robby is gone he is a 3rd or 4th option at best anyone bemoaning his departure is a sad sack retaining fluid on their brain. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 The priority this offseason was rebuild the o-line. First and foremost Douglas had to protect Sam's safety. And Douglas did that. He got him his franchise LT and a brand new o-line . Now we just hope McGovern, Van Roten, and Fant can actually play. Next offseason will be about rounding out the skill positions and filling in those spots on the OL that are still duds. And hopefully they do bring in a John Abraham type pass rusher. I think Perriman will be better than people think. Hopefully Mims contributes. Having Herndon will be huge, too. If the WR group doesn't cut it this year, then maybe they'll sign Juju for big money next offseason. The Steelers could just blow it all up soon when Roethlisberger retires. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 This is a prospect and developmental year. Money should be spent on young high risk/high reward players. Most of them won't work out, and we're not winning the superbowl this year, bit we're in a good position to develop a lot of young talent relatively cheaply. This is very much the time for that sort of thing. With the dearth of talent on this roster (left by the previous administration), there really isn't much choice. There was simply not enough time to patch 75% of the roster. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 6 hours ago, JetsLife said: There is no defending the dearth of WR talent in the WR room. Joe D speaks of doing all he can to support Sam - then he presents him with one of the worst WR corps in the league? What happens when one of the top 2 go out? Pats cast off Braxton Berrios rides in to the rescue? It’s Maccagnan-esque. And why are the Jets so very far under the cap? If we’re all in on 2020 why couldn’t we afford Robby and the rest of our WR corps? If Joe D’s honest answer is we’re not all in on 2020 - that raises a red flag is he will never prove to be the man for this job. It shows a fatal conservatism streak. Hopefully then he has other grander reasons. “If they don’t bite when they’re puppies, they’re never gonna bite.” - Parcells Um robbie wasn't worth the money for his talent and production. IF anything it shows he is the right man for the job. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MichaelScott Posted August 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2020 6 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said: let a former UDFA knucklehead walk after refusing to give a stupid guy stupid money, YES. ? RA is a flawed WR and a knucklehead with 2 braincells that aren't talking to each other on top of it. I would have loved to see every position on this team addressed in one year but that isn't practical. Especially when you finally have a GM that is building for the long term. I love what JD has done this year and he has absolutely earned my faith in him to this point. If he did not resign sun god, there was a reason (besides the numerous obvious ones). 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pajet Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 6 hours ago, varjet said: I like JD, but sometimes I wonder if he is trying to win the value game and not the games won game. He did not approach this season to try and make the playoffs, at least in my opinion. Signing RA would have supported that, as would have keeping Adams. He seems to building a team that will start looking decent years 3-4 of his 6 year contract. It could be too slow and cost Gase his job, although Gase will help to get himself fired. Spitballing here, but perhaps JD felt that while sure signing RA to stupid long term money might make the Jets better in the short term (i.e. this year) but realized that he is really a limited WR and paying him stupid money now and LT might restrict his ability to sign more complete well rounded receivers down the road that could help the team become a perennial contender. He is the GM. His job isn't to make the Jets a wild card team in 2020. His job is to make the Jets a team that competes for the playoffs every year with a shot to actually win a title. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 9 hours ago, JetsLife said: There is no defending the dearth of WR talent in the WR room. Joe D speaks of doing all he can to support Sam - then he presents him with one of the worst WR corps in the league? What happens when one of the top 2 go out? Pats cast off Braxton Berrios rides in to the rescue? It’s Maccagnan-esque. And why are the Jets so very far under the cap? If we’re all in on 2020 why couldn’t we afford Robby and the rest of our WR corps? If Joe D’s honest answer is we’re not all in on 2020 - that raises a red flag is he will never prove to be the man for this job. It shows a fatal conservatism streak. Hopefully then he has other grander reasons. “If they don’t bite when they’re puppies, they’re never gonna bite.” - Parcells I wish there was a vote for post of the year. Best post of 2020. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 He’s done the same thing with the O-Line.. Basically the minimum that could be done without being accused of outright neglect. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 The season hasn't started yet. The roster isn't done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 2 hours ago, MichaelScott said: YES. ? RA is a flawed WR and a knucklehead with 2 braincells that aren't talking to each other on top of it. I would have loved to see every position on this team addressed in one year but that isn't practical. Especially when you finally have a GM that is building for the long term. I love what JD has done this year and he has absolutely earned my faith in him to this point. If he did not resign sun god, there was a reason (besides the numerous obvious ones). i find it interesting that RA had a better year w/ mclown than his 2 with sam. a solid nfl 2/3 from an udfa is decent. he did his job. we got good value from that udfa selection,. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Biggs said: The season hasn't started yet. The roster isn't done. he said " if we're all in on 2020" we're not. cos we're not even close yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 By most accounts, Robby was the top FA WR. Perriman was near the top as well. This was not a loaded free agent class. There were really only 3 WRs that we could have gotten that would have changed the feel of the WR group. We could have gone WR at 11, but that would have meant no Becton. We could have traded for Stefon Diggs but that would have likely meant we traded our first and thus no LT. We could have also traded for Deandre Hopkins. The Hopkins trade seems to be the only real missed opportunity. However, there are concerns about his leadership skills. Any other WR he could have gotten would have just been a depth player. Who are the guys JD should have signed, traded or drafted? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Bit is all in on Carolina this year. They got a proven NFL HC and Robbie Anderson. He's backup position is Seattle. The guy had a made crush on Mac who planted a garden full of weeds. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Its a throwaway season. No reason to do anything other than get ready for next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Doggin94it Posted August 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2020 9 hours ago, JetsLife said: There is no defending the dearth of WR talent in the WR room. Joe D speaks of doing all he can to support Sam - then he presents him with one of the worst WR corps in the league? What happens when one of the top 2 go out? Pats cast off Braxton Berrios rides in to the rescue? It’s Maccagnan-esque. And why are the Jets so very far under the cap? If we’re all in on 2020 why couldn’t we afford Robby and the rest of our WR corps? If Joe D’s honest answer is we’re not all in on 2020 - that raises a red flag is he will never prove to be the man for this job. It shows a fatal conservatism streak. Hopefully then he has other grander reasons. “If they don’t bite when they’re puppies, they’re never gonna bite.” - Parcells The WRs on the NFL's top 100 free agents were, in order: AJ Green (franchised), Amari Cooper (resigned with Dallas), Robby, Perriman, Emmanuel Sanders, & Nelson Agholor Agholor is terrible, Sanders is old. So you're really asking why not grab Cooper or Robby. Cooper was never leaving Dallas. So it's really just "why not Robby instead of Perriman" Because Perriman is a better option. Higher upside, cheaper deal, not a1-trick pony. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted August 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: The WRs on the NFL's top 100 free agents were, in order: AJ Green (franchised), Amari Cooper (resigned with Dallas), Robby, Perriman, Emmanuel Sanders, & Nelson Agholor Agholor is terrible, Sanders is old. So you're really asking why not grab Cooper or Robby. Cooper was never leaving Dallas. So it's really just "why not Robby instead of Perriman" Because Perriman is a better option. Higher upside, cheaper deal, not a1-trick pony. Thank you, Sounds about right. People just play way too much Madden. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 10 hours ago, JetsLife said: There is no defending the dearth of WR talent in the WR room. Joe D speaks of doing all he can to support Sam - then he presents him with one of the worst WR corps in the league? What happens when one of the top 2 go out? Pats cast off Braxton Berrios rides in to the rescue? It’s Maccagnan-esque. And why are the Jets so very far under the cap? If we’re all in on 2020 why couldn’t we afford Robby and the rest of our WR corps? If Joe D’s honest answer is we’re not all in on 2020 - that raises a red flag is he will never prove to be the man for this job. It shows a fatal conservatism streak. Hopefully then he has other grander reasons. “If they don’t bite when they’re puppies, they’re never gonna bite.” - Parcells there really wasn't much available in the FA market - you can argue Perriman potentially is an upgrade on Robbie - other than that, who was out there? DEZ? DT? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Can we freaking see what some young guys can do here finally? All we do here is complain about our past GMs drafting, bring in a new guy & scream about NOT SIGNING FREE AGENTS. Isn't signing free agents one of the New York Jets biggest issues? He drafted Mims hoping he can grab the #1 WR spot in the future. Obviously the are high on Vyncent Smith, are looking to Perriman as the #1 until Mims can get up to speed, Crowder is a very good slot WR (look at the Ravens game), they have Herndon back, and he brought in a few young guys in a loaded WR draft including a guy like Cager. We hired this guy because our past GMs couldn't find a WR if they slapped them in face. It's his first draft and free agency sucked this year. Wait until you see how many players are available next offseason when the cap goes down with a bunch of teams way over the cap. He has a six year contract, he's looking to not make the mistakes his predecessors did. This is the perfect year to see if we can find some gems in our own backyard. We weren't winning a Super Bowl this year, and that's the goal. Go JD, stick with the plan, draft well with a pile of picks in 2021, and a huge free agent class, with agents knowing we have the most dough, and not a lot of cap dollars to go around. 2021 is lining up as monster year for this franchise. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dcat Posted August 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 hour ago, FidelioJet said: He’s done the same thing with the O-Line.. Basically the minimum that could be done without being accused of outright neglect. this is just another false narrative of yours. Sigh. Not only are you 100% wrong, you are not even amusing at it. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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