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There is no defending the dearth of WR talent in the WR room. 

Joe D speaks of doing all he can to support Sam - then he presents him with one of the worst WR corps in the league? What happens when one of the top 2 go out? Pats cast off Braxton Berrios rides in to the rescue?

It’s Maccagnan-esque.  

And why are the Jets so very far under the cap? If we’re all in on 2020 why couldn’t we afford Robby and the rest of our WR corps?

If Joe D’s honest answer is we’re not all in on 2020 - that raises a red flag is he will never prove to be the man for this job. It shows a fatal conservatism streak. Hopefully then he has other grander reasons. 

“If they don’t bite when they’re puppies, they’re never gonna bite.” - Parcells

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OP isn’t wrong. Our WR core is a lot of “hope and prayer” 

crowder is only proven WR. 

Periman has been underwhelming  had a few great games and a lot of meh  

Mims rookie with hamstring. Kid could be legit. 
 

pick a smith - Vincent make a splash play here and there.  Jeff has speed. Neither are dudes. More JAGs with speed 

 

berrios is a PR that can play the slot but jury is out on him as legit WR. 
 

Doctson. Lol. Bust. Lucky there was an “opt out” option. 
 

JETS should add another WR. And  I think D Thomas should be brought back - for sure to help the young guys and he is still able to play. Not the #1 he was but good enough To make plays. 

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1 hour ago, JetsLife said:

There is no defending the dearth of WR talent in the WR room. 

Joe D speaks of doing all he can to support Sam - then he presents him with one of the worst WR corps in the league? What happens when one of the top 2 go out? Pats cast off Braxton Berrios rides in to the rescue?

It’s Maccagnan-esque.  

And why are the Jets so very far under the cap? If we’re all in on 2020 why couldn’t we afford Robby and the rest of our WR corps?

If Joe D’s honest answer is we’re not all in on 2020 - that raises a red flag is he will never prove to be the man for this job. It shows a fatal conservatism streak. Hopefully then he has other grander reasons. 

“If they don’t bite when they’re puppies, they’re never gonna bite.” - Parcells

The unsure nature of the season due to covid means we should be shrewd with cap money. Its a SMART thing to do, and next year we can afford to build an even better roster.

Im intrigued with the WRs we have this year and I cant wait to see how they pan out. If they all bomb (unlikely), then people can complain about JD and his choices. Lets see what plays out first though, its the smart thing to do.

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I like JD, but sometimes I wonder if he is trying to win the value game and not the games won game.  

He did not approach this season to try and make the playoffs, at least in my opinion.  Signing RA would have supported that, as would have keeping Adams.   He seems to building a team that will start looking decent years 3-4 of his 6 year contract.  It could be too slow and cost Gase his job, although Gase will help to get himself fired.  

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My only issue is him not drafting a 2nd wr in the draft that was deep with WRs.  He should have for sure double dipped at wr.

I agree with this. It’s really the one issue I have. Secondarily I would have liked to see the 6th rd pick used on a draftee than the colts CB but that’s about it.


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JFC with never ending tears for THE Robby Anderson... This team sucked with him and will suck without him. There were no magic turn the Jets around FA signings to be made this off-season.

I'm not sad Robby is gone he is a 3rd or 4th option at best anyone bemoaning his departure is a sad sack retaining fluid on their brain.

 

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The priority this offseason was rebuild the o-line.  First and foremost Douglas had to protect Sam's safety.  And Douglas did that.  He got him his franchise LT and a brand new o-line .  Now we just hope McGovern, Van Roten, and Fant can actually play.

Next offseason will be about rounding out the skill positions and filling in those spots on the OL that are still duds.  And hopefully they do bring in a John Abraham type pass rusher.

I think Perriman will be better than people think.  Hopefully Mims contributes.  Having Herndon will be huge, too.

If the WR group doesn't cut it this year, then maybe they'll sign Juju for big money next offseason.  The Steelers could just blow it all up soon when Roethlisberger retires.

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This is a prospect and developmental year.  Money should be spent on young high risk/high reward players.  

Most of them won't work out, and we're not winning the superbowl this year, bit we're in a good position to develop a lot of young talent relatively cheaply.  This is very much the time for that sort of thing.

With the dearth of talent on this roster (left by the previous administration), there really isn't much choice.  There was simply not enough time to patch 75% of the roster.

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6 hours ago, JetsLife said:

There is no defending the dearth of WR talent in the WR room. 

Joe D speaks of doing all he can to support Sam - then he presents him with one of the worst WR corps in the league? What happens when one of the top 2 go out? Pats cast off Braxton Berrios rides in to the rescue?

It’s Maccagnan-esque.  

And why are the Jets so very far under the cap? If we’re all in on 2020 why couldn’t we afford Robby and the rest of our WR corps?

If Joe D’s honest answer is we’re not all in on 2020 - that raises a red flag is he will never prove to be the man for this job. It shows a fatal conservatism streak. Hopefully then he has other grander reasons. 

“If they don’t bite when they’re puppies, they’re never gonna bite.” - Parcells

Um robbie wasn't worth the money for his talent and production.  IF anything it shows he is the right man for the job. 

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6 hours ago, varjet said:

I like JD, but sometimes I wonder if he is trying to win the value game and not the games won game.  

He did not approach this season to try and make the playoffs, at least in my opinion.  Signing RA would have supported that, as would have keeping Adams.   He seems to building a team that will start looking decent years 3-4 of his 6 year contract.  It could be too slow and cost Gase his job, although Gase will help to get himself fired.  

Spitballing here, but perhaps JD felt that while sure signing RA to stupid long term money might make the Jets better in the short term (i.e. this year) but realized that he is really a limited WR and paying him stupid money now and LT might restrict his ability to sign more complete well rounded receivers down the road that could help the team become a perennial contender.   He is the GM.  His job isn't to make the Jets a wild card team in 2020.   His job is to make the Jets a team that competes for the playoffs every year with a shot to actually win a title.

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9 hours ago, JetsLife said:

There is no defending the dearth of WR talent in the WR room. 

Joe D speaks of doing all he can to support Sam - then he presents him with one of the worst WR corps in the league? What happens when one of the top 2 go out? Pats cast off Braxton Berrios rides in to the rescue?

It’s Maccagnan-esque.  

And why are the Jets so very far under the cap? If we’re all in on 2020 why couldn’t we afford Robby and the rest of our WR corps?

If Joe D’s honest answer is we’re not all in on 2020 - that raises a red flag is he will never prove to be the man for this job. It shows a fatal conservatism streak. Hopefully then he has other grander reasons. 

“If they don’t bite when they’re puppies, they’re never gonna bite.” - Parcells

I wish there was a vote for post of the year. Best post of 2020.

 

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2 hours ago, MichaelScott said:

YES. 💯

RA is a flawed WR and a knucklehead with 2 braincells that aren't talking to each other on top of it. I would have loved to see every position on this team addressed in one year but that isn't practical. Especially when you finally have a GM that is building for the long term. I love what JD has done this year and he has absolutely earned my faith in him to this point. If he did not resign sun god, there was a reason (besides the numerous obvious ones). 

i find it interesting that RA had a better year w/ mclown than his 2 with sam.

a solid nfl 2/3 from an udfa is decent. he did his job. we got good value from that udfa selection,.

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By most accounts, Robby was the top FA WR. Perriman was near the top as well. This was not a loaded free agent class.

There were really only 3 WRs that we could have gotten that would have changed the feel of the WR group. We could have gone WR at 11, but that would have meant no Becton. We could have traded for Stefon Diggs but that would have likely meant we traded our first and thus no LT. We could have also traded for Deandre Hopkins. The Hopkins trade seems to be the only real missed opportunity. However, there are concerns about his leadership skills.

Any other WR he could have gotten would have just been a depth player.

Who are the guys JD should have signed, traded or drafted?

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10 hours ago, JetsLife said:

There is no defending the dearth of WR talent in the WR room. 

Joe D speaks of doing all he can to support Sam - then he presents him with one of the worst WR corps in the league? What happens when one of the top 2 go out? Pats cast off Braxton Berrios rides in to the rescue?

It’s Maccagnan-esque.  

And why are the Jets so very far under the cap? If we’re all in on 2020 why couldn’t we afford Robby and the rest of our WR corps?

If Joe D’s honest answer is we’re not all in on 2020 - that raises a red flag is he will never prove to be the man for this job. It shows a fatal conservatism streak. Hopefully then he has other grander reasons. 

“If they don’t bite when they’re puppies, they’re never gonna bite.” - Parcells

there really wasn't much available in the FA market - you can argue Perriman potentially is an upgrade on Robbie - other than that, who was out there?  DEZ? DT?

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Can we freaking see what some young guys can do here finally? All we do here is complain about our past GMs drafting, bring in a new guy & scream about NOT SIGNING FREE AGENTS. Isn't signing free agents one of the New York Jets biggest issues? He drafted Mims hoping he can grab the #1 WR spot in the future. Obviously the are high on Vyncent Smith, are looking to Perriman as the #1 until Mims can get up to speed, Crowder is a very good slot WR (look at the Ravens game), they have Herndon back, and he brought in a few young guys in a loaded WR draft including a guy like Cager. 

We hired this guy because our past GMs couldn't find a WR if they slapped them in face. It's his first draft and free agency sucked this year. Wait until you see how many players are available next offseason when the cap goes down with a bunch of teams way over the cap. He has a six year contract, he's looking to not make the mistakes his predecessors did. This is the perfect year to see if we can find some gems in our own backyard. We weren't winning a Super Bowl this year, and that's the goal. Go JD, stick with the plan, draft well with a pile of picks in 2021, and a huge free agent class, with agents knowing we have the most dough, and not a lot of cap dollars to go around. 2021 is lining up as monster year for this franchise.

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