Philc1 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 31 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Which makes it WORSE than the Adams situation in terms of finances. We'd have to pay Ngakoue after the 2020 season or let him walk for nothing but a comp pick. With Adams we could have waited several years before paying him. We have the money to make that happen if need be, but it doesn't make the decision to give up a high pick for Ngakoue any easier. JD made the right decision trading Adams now while he was still at the peak of his value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Doggin94it said: Find me a comp - someone who was an outlier through 4 seasons and then fell off. Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila: 49 sacks his first 4 seasons, 24 his final 4 seasons Robert Quinn: 40 sacks his first 3 seasons, 35.5 sacks his last 5 seasons Shawne Merriman: 39.5 Sacks his first 3 seasons, 6.0 in his final 5 seasons Mike Rucker: 36.5 sacks his first 4 seasons, 19 his final 4 seasons Chris Long: 38 sacks his first 4 seasons, 28 his final 6 seasons Charles Grant: 27.5 sacks his first 3 seasons, 19.5 his final 5 seasons Grant Wistrom: 30 sacks his first 4 seasons, 23.5 his final 5 seasons Roosevelt Colvin: 24 sacks his first 3 seasons, 26.5 sacks his final 6 seasons Kevin Williams: 31 sacks his first 4 seasons, 32 sacks his final 9 seasons 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 5 hours ago, JTJet said: Is this new age lingo for..."We suck as reporters and sourced our info from unverified tweets" ? And in trying to break stories, for you the fan, sometimes theres a price to pay Dont blame the sports tweeters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Shawne Merriman: 39.5 Sacks his first 3 seasons, 6.0 in his final 5 seasons PEDs. Bet hes not alone 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: And in trying to break stories, for you the fan, sometimes theres a price to pay Dont blame the sports tweeters. I blame media companies incessant need for clicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Just now, JTJet said: I blame media companies incessant need for clicks. Not from a blogger with 40+ followers I was kidding BTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Which makes it WORSE than the Adams situation in terms of finances. We'd have to pay Ngakoue after the 2020 season or let him walk for nothing but a comp pick. With Adams we could have waited several years before paying him. We have the money to make that happen if need be, but it doesn't make the decision to give up a high pick for Ngakoue any easier. If you think Adams would've played a down if he didn't get a contact next offseason you'd be very mistaken. His contact would have had to happen next offseason at the latest. Same as Ngakoue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, choon328 said: If you think Adams would've played a down if he didn't get a contact next offseason you'd be very mistaken. His contact would have had to happen next offseason at the latest. Same as Ngakoue The CBA doesn't allow players to hold out, essentially. If he sat out a season, he would have merely been fined a ton of money and had his free agency pushed back a year. Would he have caused problems and perhaps sat out some games with bogus injuries? Absolutely. But holding out would not have been possible for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenPower Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 I'd keep the picks and build for the long haul. If Douglas is hell bent on a pass rusher, just sign clowney to a 1yr deal. The jets need to keep there picks. Douglas is not maccagnan. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 8 hours ago, Jet Nut said: PEDs. Bet hes not alone Didn’t he test positive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 6 hours ago, Philc1 said: Didn’t he test positive Yes he did, was suspended 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Traded to Vikings for a 2nd rounder and conditional 5th. Per Schefter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: Traded to Vikings for a 2nd rounder and conditional 5th. Per Schefter I'd have been fine with that price. Guess the Jets really weren't interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: Traded to Vikings for a 2nd rounder and conditional 5th. Per Schefter So DEEP we put that ass to SLEEP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, mrcoops said: I'd have been fine with that price. Guess the Jets really weren't interested. No doubt. They must know that Zuniga is a sleeping giant and the day he's healthy (that will be a first) he's going to also put up pedestrian numbers and demand to be paid for it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, JiF said: No doubt. They must know that Zuniga is a sleeping giant and the day he's healthy (that will be a first) he's going to also put up pedestrian numbers and demand to be paid for it! I would like to be involved deeply in a trade for Uranus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, The Crusher said: I would like to be involved deeply in a trade for Uranus. But only for a late round conditional, lots of mileage on my anus. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 36 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: Traded to Vikings for a 2nd rounder and conditional 5th. Per Schefter Sounds like the conditional could be a third (presumably if he re-signs.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 23 minutes ago, mrcoops said: I'd have been fine with that price. Guess the Jets really weren't interested. Its completely clear if we make ANY move at this point it has to involve a wide receiver. I'm fine that we didnt pull the trigger on this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Character is a big factor in the way Joe D operates I doubt we were ever seriously in on him. Now go get a WR that's been relevant beyond 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: Sounds like the conditional could be a third (presumably if he re-signs.) The 5th becomes a 4th if he makes the Pro Bowl this year. It becomes a 3rd if he makes the Pro Bowl AND the Vikes win the Superbowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Just now, mrcoops said: The 5th becomes a 4th if he makes the Pro Bowl this year. It becomes a 3rd if he makes the Pro Bowl AND the Vikes win the Superbowl. Interesting. Really just a win now move I guess -- I still imagine they plan to re-sign him but they won't have a ton of leverage. I'd imagine the 2nd year tag would be too high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 I will say for the Vikings though, they've got a pretty scary pass rush with Danielle Hunter (who might be the best defender in the NFL right now) and now Yannick. That's a lot of pressure from guys who can get the ball loose when they do get to the QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Considering Ngakoue's age, position and production I would've made that trade. So I'm disappointed Douglas didn't pull the trigger. But as I look at what JAX got for a 25 year old pass rusher it shocks me that we got more in the Adams trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Way too much for a guy that you can’t resign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82nd Airborne Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, JTJet said: I'm fine that we didnt pull the trigger on this. Because we have Q. Will on deck, ready to rack sacks in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 8/21/2020 at 3:43 PM, Jetsfan80 said: Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila: 49 sacks his first 4 seasons, 24 his final 4 seasons Robert Quinn: 40 sacks his first 3 seasons, 35.5 sacks his last 5 seasons Shawne Merriman: 39.5 Sacks his first 3 seasons, 6.0 in his final 5 seasons Mike Rucker: 36.5 sacks his first 4 seasons, 19 his final 4 seasons Chris Long: 38 sacks his first 4 seasons, 28 his final 6 seasons Charles Grant: 27.5 sacks his first 3 seasons, 19.5 his final 5 seasons Grant Wistrom: 30 sacks his first 4 seasons, 23.5 his final 5 seasons Roosevelt Colvin: 24 sacks his first 3 seasons, 26.5 sacks his final 6 seasons Kevin Williams: 31 sacks his first 4 seasons, 32 sacks his final 9 seasons Very impressed with this answer! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 8/21/2020 at 2:13 PM, playtowinthegame said: Logan Ryan views himself as a safety, not a cb, which makes the Jets an unlikely fit. Jets aren't interested in Jadeveon Clowney, and it's unlikely they'll trade for Yannick Ngakoue. There will be no more splashy signings. I was wrong as soon as JD won the Donte Moncrief sweepstakes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekJet Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 After everything you’ve heard about how the offense looks in training camp would you make this move? He’s going to be a free agent after the season so it’s 100 percent a win now move. Everything the Jets have done this offseason has been with an eye towards 2021. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 32 minutes ago, GreekJet said: After everything you’ve heard about how the offense looks in training camp would you make this move? He’s going to be a free agent after the season so it’s 100 percent a win now move. Everything the Jets have done this offseason has been with an eye towards 2021. JD is not concerned with winning this year! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 JD is not concerned with winning this year!The More accurate statement isJD is more concerned with winning this decade than he is with winning this yearSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Just now, ljr said: The More accurate statement is JD is more concerned with winning this decade than he is with winning this year Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Fair enough. He's certainly thinking long-term, for better or worse that's his plan. Nothing he's done this off-season says he has any concern whatsoever about putting together a competitive roster this season. That's all I've been saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 2 hours ago, GreekJet said: After everything you’ve heard about how the offense looks in training camp would you make this move? He’s going to be a free agent after the season so it’s 100 percent a win now move. Everything the Jets have done this offseason has been with an eye towards 2021. I’d say 2022. Last year of the additional 1st rd picks Should have our WR core fully staffed at that point and a good deep RB group completed. Sammy on 5th year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 11 hours ago, JiF said: But only for a late round conditional, lots of mileage on my anus. You are a HGH enema away from all pro. We should tweet about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 I'm glad the Jets passed considering the price paid for a 1 year rental. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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