gase is such a clown

[CTM]

13 minutes ago, Pac said:

Bell has been better at his job over the years than Gase has been at his. Thats really not debatable.

Yes and Gase would be a fool if it was 2015 but it's not so your point isnt relevant. 

[T0mShane]

14 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

And they’ve both been better at their job than Maccagnan was at his.

also not debatable.

Maccagnan: 

[T0mShane]

Just now, T0mShane said:

Maccagnan: 

Gase and Douglas:

 

[Bugg]

8 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Maccagnan: 

Depicted; binder containing sheets with a single paragraph about  the supposed "best player in the draft" on each page. 

"Mike, you drafted a fat defensive tackle with no motor who did NOTHING in any games that mattered, and inexplicably declined to bench press at the combine. Comment?" 

"BEST PLAYER IN THE DRAFT!". 

[Losmeister]

posted this in the Perine thread...

in 2017 when Pitts lines was 22nd, Bell was avg/below avg.... 3.5 ypc

his success running is built behind a top 10 OL, where you can FULL stop and play peekaboo behind your OL.

and his success in teh passing game is having a top 10 Rapin'Burger QB and a perennial ALLPRO Antonio Brown...

 

[Jet Nut]

1 hour ago, Beerfish said:

Year 5 lets see how he does this year.

End of year 5, he had no talent and the team won 7 games.

Year 6 lets see how he does this year.

The jets are great at going for an extra year or two with lousy coaches that are not going to take the team where they need to be.

 

So what you’re saying is he’s only coached offenses that count when his QB is down.  Because he should be able to lead teams to top offenses with Moore, Cutler out of retirement, Osweiller, Falk, Fales whoever.  Lots of talent there

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

3 hours ago, kmnj said:

Gase was so stupid

[Biggs]

34 minutes ago, kmnj said:

first off drake is fine he and the coach said all systems go for opening day

gase was clueless on drake-the fact he could not see that is an indictment on him but so is the worst offense he runs year in and year out 

drake went to cards and lit it up-he is getting 8 million from the cards and negotiations are for a long term deal

Dak didnt get a long term deal from dallas he signed a one year deal like Drake- there are plenty of players that could not reach terms with teams that are stars that sign one year deals...

 

In eight games — all starts — with the Cardinals on the 2019 season, Drake took 123 carries for 643 yards (5.2 average) and eight touchdowns. The 6-foot-1, 211-pounder added 28 receptions for 171 yards (6.1 average) as a pass-catching option out of the backfield.

In 2018 under Gase he averaged 5.8 per touch.  In 2019 he averaged 5.0 per touch for Miami and 5.4 for the Cardinals.  If you're looking at Drakes total production you're making a dumb argument.  Last year he had 47 more touches than in 2018 and put up an additional 150 yards.  Do the math, that's 3.19 yards per touch for the additional 47 touches.  What it shows is Gase got maximum production out of his touches.  2018 was his most productive year.  He had 477 receiving yards for Miami and averaged 5.8 per touch with over a 1000 yards.  

[hamat711]

So Bell is openly contradicting Gase?

The list of players is too big for this to be an accident. Most teams don't even deal with issues such as this. If teams do deal with these issues, it's usually only one player or they are able to keep it in house.

The coach is key in establishing a culture. Even if Gase is not directly the cause of the issue, he still had some impact on it.

 

Jamal Adams - Says Adam Gase is one of the reasons he wanted out of New York. Also Claims that the front office said they would review his contract, and then was ghosted. Was also upset at trade rumors mid season.

Jarvis Landry - Multiple issues with Gase which lead him to leaving the team.

Quincy Enunwa - Calls out Jets for fining him

KO - Felt the Jets forced him to play with an injury.

Jay Ajayi - Upset with Gase and led to being traded.

Jawaun James - Former Dolphins OT said the team had no identity

Kenyan Drake - Wanted out of Miami if Gase stayed, and had several issues with workload.

Jordan Phillips - Known to dislike Adam Gase and Miami after being cut by them and playing well in Buffalo.

Damien Williams - Similar to Jamal Adams, claims that the front office would review his contract, and then was ghosted.

This isn't the end of the list either.

[Jetster]

2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

So what you’re saying is he’s only coached offenses that count when his QB is down.  Because he should be able to lead teams to top offenses with Moore, Cutler out of retirement, Osweiller, Falk, Fales whoever.  Lots of talent there

What’s funny is Jet fans seem to forget that Gase beat us with backups. 

[Jetster]

1 minute ago, hamat711 said:

So Bell is openly contradicting Gase?

The list of players is too big for this to be an accident. Most teams don't even deal with issues such as this. If teams do deal with these issues, it's usually only one player or they are able to keep it in house.

The coach is key in establishing a culture. Even if Gase is not directly the cause of the issue, he still had some impact on it.

 

Jamal Adams - Says Adam Gase is one of the reasons he wanted out of New York. Also Claims that the front office said they would review his contract, and then was ghosted. Was also upset at trade rumors mid season.

Jarvis Landry - Multiple issues with Gase which lead him to leaving the team.

Quincy Enunwa - Calls out Jets for fining him

KO - Felt the Jets forced him to play with an injury.

Jay Ajayi - Upset with Gase and led to being traded.

Jawaun James - Former Dolphins OT said the team had no identity

Kenyan Drake - Wanted out of Miami if Gase stayed, and had several issues with workload.

Jordan Phillips - Known to dislike Adam Gase and Miami after being cut by them and playing well in Buffalo.

Damien Williams - Similar to Jamal Adams, claims that the front office would review his contract, and then was ghosted.

This isn't the end of the list either.

A long list of great character guys. Even Adams “character” can be called out now. 
He was as far from a leader of men as you can get & turned out to be as selfish as Keyshawn but made less plays. 

[rangerous]

15 minutes ago, Losmeister said:

posted this in the Perine thread...

in 2017 when Pitts lines was 22nd, Bell was avg/below avg.... 3.5 ypc

his success running is built behind a top 10 OL, where you can FULL stop and play peekaboo behind your OL.

and his success in teh passing game is having a top 10 Rapin'Burger QB and a perennial ALLPRO Antonio Brown...

 

i wouldn't exactly say bell doesn't have the talent but you are right about players doing better when the players around them are better.  and right now (or at least last season) bell was grossly overpaid for his position al production.

[rangerous]

13 minutes ago, hamat711 said:

So Bell is openly contradicting Gase?

The list of players is too big for this to be an accident. Most teams don't even deal with issues such as this. If teams do deal with these issues, it's usually only one player or they are able to keep it in house.

The coach is key in establishing a culture. Even if Gase is not directly the cause of the issue, he still had some impact on it.

 

Jamal Adams - Says Adam Gase is one of the reasons he wanted out of New York. Also Claims that the front office said they would review his contract, and then was ghosted. Was also upset at trade rumors mid season.

Jarvis Landry - Multiple issues with Gase which lead him to leaving the team.

Quincy Enunwa - Calls out Jets for fining him

KO - Felt the Jets forced him to play with an injury.

Jay Ajayi - Upset with Gase and led to being traded.

Jawaun James - Former Dolphins OT said the team had no identity

Kenyan Drake - Wanted out of Miami if Gase stayed, and had several issues with workload.

Jordan Phillips - Known to dislike Adam Gase and Miami after being cut by them and playing well in Buffalo.

Damien Williams - Similar to Jamal Adams, claims that the front office would review his contract, and then was ghosted.

This isn't the end of the list either.

and?  did you watch the gase presser?  he said bell was pulled as a precaution because of a hamstring issue.  is that so bad?  i don't think so and gase probably had a really good idea as to how many series bell would be in for.  as for your list of players, they're all pretty much mal contents.  adams and landry are both products of the lsu prima donna machine.  enunwa was blaming the jets not gase perse.  the gm is responsible for fining players.  the rest of the guys are who?

[T0mShane]

18 minutes ago, hamat711 said:

So Bell is openly contradicting Gase?

The list of players is too big for this to be an accident. Most teams don't even deal with issues such as this. If teams do deal with these issues, it's usually only one player or they are able to keep it in house.

The coach is key in establishing a culture. Even if Gase is not directly the cause of the issue, he still had some impact on it.

 

Jamal Adams - Says Adam Gase is one of the reasons he wanted out of New York. Also Claims that the front office said they would review his contract, and then was ghosted. Was also upset at trade rumors mid season.

Jarvis Landry - Multiple issues with Gase which lead him to leaving the team.

Quincy Enunwa - Calls out Jets for fining him

KO - Felt the Jets forced him to play with an injury.

Jay Ajayi - Upset with Gase and led to being traded.

Jawaun James - Former Dolphins OT said the team had no identity

Kenyan Drake - Wanted out of Miami if Gase stayed, and had several issues with workload.

Jordan Phillips - Known to dislike Adam Gase and Miami after being cut by them and playing well in Buffalo.

Damien Williams - Similar to Jamal Adams, claims that the front office would review his contract, and then was ghosted.

This isn't the end of the list either.

Literally every player on that list is a career malcontent and/or underachiever

[Losmeister]

42 minutes ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said:

Dunning Kruger

[BUM-KNEE]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Thought you were making a The Office reference.

 

Jan: All right, well are you gonna take care of this?
Michael: Yeppers.
Jan: What did I tell you about "yeppers?"
Michael: I don't... remember.
Jan: I told you not to say it. Do you remember that?
Michael: Yeesh...

Oh HaHa

[addage]

3 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Some people say Gase is the problem. 

 

Others think Darnold might be the problem.

 

Still others think the OL is the problem 

[hamat711]

37 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Literally every player on that list is a career malcontent and/or underachiever

Every team has those guys, but it is the most prominent in Gase lead teams.

[hamat711]

42 minutes ago, rangerous said:

and?  did you watch the gase presser?  he said bell was pulled as a precaution because of a hamstring issue.  is that so bad?  i don't think so and gase probably had a really good idea as to how many series bell would be in for.  as for your list of players, they're all pretty much mal contents.  adams and landry are both products of the lsu prima donna machine.  enunwa was blaming the jets not gase perse.  the gm is responsible for fining players.  the rest of the guys are who?

I think you are dismissing the tweets too quickly.

There are three tweets and in one Bell alluded to his Hamstring being tight because he wasn't getting reps.

Also like I said in my post, the coach helps establish the culture. Even if the front office is making the decision, the coach still helped create the framework.

This also seems to happen to frequently with his teams.

[addage]

Criticizing Gase because Bell gets frustrated is nuts.  Bell may not be as far out on the bell curve as JA, but he’s a couple of standard deviations from normal. 

[SOJ]

Are we really talking about this?  Sigh.  My concern for this team for the last 8-10 years is do we have a culture or identity.   IMHO, no.  

So lets see how well this team comes together.  The players are what both agreed to so its now up to the HC and coaches to maximize their potential and put them in positions to win games.   AS far as I am concern the jury is still out on the coaching so we'll see what 2020 brings.     

[Jet Nut]

What is the stronger urge.  To cry that Bell has lost it or that Gase is a clown

And is it me or does signing a backup RB fall under the job responsibility of our GM, not our HC?

 

 

[Jet Nut]

36 minutes ago, hamat711 said:

Every team has those guys, but it is the most prominent in Gase lead teams.

In the mind of obsessed Bills fans

 

[hamat711]

1 hour ago, Jetster said:

A long list of great character guys. Even Adams “character” can be called out now. 
He was as far from a leader of men as you can get & turned out to be as selfish as Keyshawn but made less plays. 

Most of those guys no longer had issues on their new teams.

The only exception is Jarvis and Freddie Kitchens. Comparing Gase to Kitchens is not a good thing.

[Jet Nut]

1 hour ago, hamat711 said:

The list of players is too big for this to be an accident. Most teams don't even deal with issues such as this. If teams do deal with these issues, it's usually only one player or they are able to keep it in house.

List all those players who are a part of this imaginary list while coached by Gase.  Not after he left of after he didnt pay them the monty they wanted, like Landry and Ajayi.  Who weren't worth the money they wanted. Oh and a RB who while leading the team in touches botched and moan that a HOF RB got too many touches.  Yeah, thats nice. 

So after 3 years, outside of these self serving babies, how many is too big in Buffalo? 

[SAR I]

5 hours ago, kmnj said:

bell is the only proven star on the team

-everybody knows gase did not want bell and his contract-they did not use bell properly last year and to bell's credit he didnt cause a mess about it.

now gase brings in a washed up guy in gore(his guy) and bell is not getting the reps HE SAID he needs in order to be the best he can be out there for the games. Bell stated he needs to practice to be great in the games. Hey coach maybe listen to the only pro bowl caliber guy you got. He knows his body and what he needs to do to be at full strength.

I cant wait until they fire Gase-the only real coach the jets have is the DC and he is the reason they won most of the games last year not their terrible offense.

p.s Gase was so stupid he let drake rot on the bench who is now a star for the cardinals

Nice try, Manish.

Enjoy mopping the floor at Show World.

SAR I

[Greenbloodblitz]

 Hey Le'Veon Bell ...shut your f****** mouth and do what you're told!

 We already hired a smart person to tell you what is expected. Your job is to do as you're told. Take the football and run where they tell you.

Thanks

 Enough is enough of these simple-minded millionaires who think they're rappers and activists. You can't even spell correctly, much less do the actual job you were hired for. How about concentrating on that!?

F*** Le'Veon Bell I never wanted him here.

 

[Long Island Leprechaun]

2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Chase Edmonds averaged 5.1 ypc for that team. They were playing out of the spread full time the second half of the year

Also, it's common sense that when you have that few carries your average will generally be inflated. The more a back carries the more his average converges to the mean.

[hamat711]

11 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

List all those players who are a part of this imaginary list while coached by Gase.  Not after he left of after he didnt pay them the monty they wanted, like Landry and Ajayi.  Who weren't worth the money they wanted. Oh and a RB who while leading the team in touches botched and moan that a HOF RB got too many touches.  Yeah, thats nice. 

So after 3 years, outside of these self serving babies, how many is too big in Buffalo? 

Jarvis Landry is worth his contract.

Jordan Phillips got paid and was highly productive in Buffalo with no complaints.

Jawaun James is a decent tackle and got a new contract from the Broncos.

Jamal Adams is an Elite player.

Gore averaged more touches per game than Drake, so your stat is misleading. Also Drake is much better than Gore, which is why Miami fans were begging for him to get the ball more. They should not have had the same amount of touches.

Damien Williams just won a superbowl as the lead back for the Chiefs

KO was a highly respected guard and seems to be having a good camp with the Chiefs.

 

There are even reports of Frank Gore, Cameron Wake and other Miami Vets who complained about him to ownership.

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, Long Island Leprechaun said:

Also, it's common sense that when you have that few carries your average will generally be inflated. The more a back carries the more his average converges to the mean.

What people always fail to mention with the Kenyan Drake/Gase thing is that Drake was dumped by the alleged genius super player’s coach Brian Flores halfway through last season. Maybe they should ask Flores why he couldn’t get anything out of Drake

[sec101row23]

I’m assuming this won’t be the last scrimmage before the regular season starts.   How many carries did Bell think he would have received in the first Pre-season game?   There’s a lot to criticize Gase about, but not giving Bell 20 carries in the first scrimmage is hardly one of them.  

[jetspenguin]

Nice try, Manish. Enjoy mopping the floor at Show World.

SAR I

 

I don't know why the hell we would listen to anything bell says.. 

1. His rap album SUCKED

 

2. Last year he talked, rapped, sang and danced about the great shape he was in and this year all he can talk about is how last year he was out of shape and THIS YEAR he is in the best shape of his life.

 

Sent from the Suicide Watch desk.

 

 

 

 

 

[BROOKLYN JET]

3 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

What's Macc up to these days?

 

[SAR I]

1 hour ago, jetspenguin said:

I don't know why the hell we would listen to anything bell says.. 

1. His rap album SUCKED

2. Last year he talked, rapped, sang and danced about the great shape he was in and this year all he can talk about is how last year he was out of shape and THIS YEAR he is in the best shape of his life.

Sent from the Suicide Watch desk.

Jets fans make no sense.

Bell had an atrocious 2019, they love him.  Gase had a strong 2019, they hate him.

SAR I

[slats]

4 hours ago, Losmeister said:

JN people are a pain in the ass, eh, Slats?   

Btw, how goes it South o the Border?

I am currently sitting under a palapa with a storm coming thru. Couldn’t be much better. I love it here.