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Is this the final audition for both Adam Gase and Sam Darnold?


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This is the best front office situation I've seen in 20 years. Our head coach is a lunatic and fits perfect and our quarterback literally symbolizes the redheaded stepchild that the New York Jets actu

No one, and I mean no one, is going to play well throwing to Jehu Chesson, George Campbell, Donte Moncrief, and I genuinely can't think of the 4th WR.  Sorry.  It's not excuses.  He's being mishandled

I think we have to mentally prepare ourselves for Tank for Trevor. Based on TC reports that is where we are headed. 

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If this is the final audition, then Gase and Darnold showed up without their dancing shoes, outfits and music.  They're on stage, in plain clothes, making beatbox sounds going through their dance recital in Reeboks.

 

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I'm not as high on Darnold as many others here are. Does he have the potential to be a good QB? Yes. But he hasn't been. We can keep making the same excuses that we always make for our struggling QBs (bad OL, bad playcalling, bad WRs), and all of that stuff can be true, but at the end of the day, Darnold still has to produce. The great QBs would still play well even in the worst of situations.

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10 minutes ago, JiF said:

If this is the final audition, then Gase and Darnold showed up without their dancing shoes, outfits and music.  They're on stage, in plain clothes, making beatbox sounds going through their dance recital in Reeboks.

 

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Yes. Why wouldn’t it be? 

Darnold apologists will have you believe that Darnold is in no position to succeed but the truth, if he flounders there is no reason to believe. His statistics are pedestrian, his skill set is inconsistent. If he can put it together that’s great if not then you have to move on after this season. The OL will be improved and at full strength his receivers have the ability to get open short or catch 50/50 balls.  Personally, I think he’ll have a good season regardless of his weapons but he needs result this year. 

Good performances even if we lose are important. Putting up points even in losing efforts matter, it’s not a Win/Loss thing it’s a performance thing.

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1 minute ago, jetscrazey said:

Running Sam Darnold out of town after a COVID-affected season where the offensive personnel is totally new and has had ZERO time to gel would be pure stupidity.

But I can totally see the fans and media doing that. 

The beat writers are going to decide that. If they want him out they will get him out. 

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My instinct is that neither is genuinely in danger. For Gase to get fired I think the season needs to go very far south and Darnold would have to really struggle (regress noticeably from last year.) I think management is prepared for this to be a down year and given COVID and the decreased revenue they're okay with it.

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Nah

I think this team is going to be ok. Not a playoff team but a team that will contend provided they can actually stay healthy and not lead the league in injuries like they seem to do every year.

I am just hoping to see a full season. I am not sold on that yet.

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this is plenty silly.  why would darnold be out save a huge implosion of some kind.  he's proven he can lead the team in spite of not having good players around him.  carson palmer was in the league for quite some time and wasn't as good.  darnold is much better than bortles and he took a team to the afc championship game.

as for gase, he's going to go as the team goes.  he's safe this season and probably next but he has to demonstrate the team's direction is up.  he did a good job last season with some bad personnel and lots of injuries.  the fact that they finished strong is an indication that the team was getting used to him as coach and darnold as qb.

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26 minutes ago, Daddy Wang Doodle said:

Unless the season really goes south (4-12, 3-13 record), I believe they will get another shot.

Too much uncertainty with covid, protests, etc., to truly make this a litmus test.

 

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minus a trainwreck season Gase is back 1 more year

even with a trainwreck season, Sam is here for 2 more ... could see a 1st/2nd round rookie being brought in to compete on year 5 though

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I think what's more likely is that we have two simultaneous situations going on that traditionally don't go hand in hand.

On one hand, we're experiencing the first true off season for Joe Douglas. And make no mistakes about it- this is a gut renovation of an organization. It's why he's valued draft picks, and has avoided the big name splashes in FA. This year is a culture changer, and he's building the roster from nearly scratch.

On the other, you have Sam. Going into year 3. Wasting a way on a bottom five roster in the NFL. 

But here's the thing - if you're top NFL quarterback, you raise the play of those around you. You're the difference maker. You don't need top line players to succeed. Is Darnold that guy? I think the jury's out. But I also think that if this team can get healthy, there's enough talent there that it can't be an excuse for his failures.  Perriman/Crowder/Herndon have all flashed in camp. Hogan is an NFL vet. Maybe Mims shows us something.. and with Bell coming out of the backfield, Griffin as our TE2 and an upgrade at OL ,  it's going to be on Sam to show us he can be the guy.

As for Gase - the guy has a longer track record with less results. Year two of his system and hopefully without David Fales under center for 3+ games, and Gase needs to show he can get this offense to be middle of the pack.  If the offense still isn't performing, what does he bring to the table? 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, JiF said:

Worse.  Much much much worse.  T mean for **** sake, they took Luck and the next 3 picks were; his boo Coby Fleener, Dwayne Allen and Ty Hilton.  lmfao took a defender and then 3 more offense..  Oh, and HOF WR Reggie Wayne was there and still in prime form....added Frank Gore, Ahmad Bradshaw, Andre Johnson, Hakeem Nicks.  Drafted Dorsett, Moncrief and in those drafts they also took 4 OL with their first 5 picks.  lol

Indy may have ultimately failed but they tried.

The Jets?  lmfao. 

Exactly. 

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11 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said:

How about this is the final audition for Jets offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains? Gase may have to fire the Beaver.

Gase apparently drinks 4 pots of a coffee a day, The Beaver has a real job he cant just outsource to Dunkin Donuts. 

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