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If Belichick was running the Jets there would be zero talk of rebuilding. 

And yet all we here is rebuilding. 

The fish rots from the head. Chris Johnson hired Gase. Gase hired Joe D. 

And so the Jets narrative is once again, patience. 

They ain’t preaching patience in KC or Tennessee or Houston or Baltimore.

 

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We've been inept for countless years. Maybe we're still inept, but Joe Douglas seems like the most competent GM we've had in forever. We all know it's ownerships fault. You're not reinventing the wheel.

Question is do you want to wait to see if Douglas can fix all those year of ineptitude or you just waiting for Woody to sell? This isn't the NBA, it takes time. If you're waiting on Woody to sell to a billionaire with a clue, give up now

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, JetsLife said:

If Belichick was running the Jets there would be zero talk of rebuilding. 

And yet all we here is rebuilding. 

The fish rots from the head. Chris Johnson hired Gase. Gase hired Joe D. 

And so the Jets narrative is once again, patience. 

They ain’t preaching patience in KC or Tennessee or Houston or Baltimore.

 

Are you OK with Chris Connell's version of Patience?  

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4 hours ago, JetsLife said:

If Belichick was running the Jets there would be zero talk of rebuilding. 

And yet all we here is rebuilding. 

The fish rots from the head. Chris Johnson hired Gase. Gase hired Joe D. 

And so the Jets narrative is once again, patience. 

They ain’t preaching patience in KC or Tennessee or Houston or Baltimore.

 

So what is your alternative?  Fire everyone and start over. That hasn’t worked very well in Cleveland. 

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The patience or rebuilding narrative is the creation of the fans. It hasn't been stated as such by the coaches or managers. 

If we sign Clowney and a WR such as Juju in the next week then we will know we are going for it, as we should be. If not then the rebuilding narrative will have some validity!

Clowney didnt sign until the cut deadline last year and Juju has a former relationship with Darnold so wont need much time to re-acquaint  himself with him. So both are still significant possibilities. 

Juju has had a few veteran days off lately. Some good time to learn the Jets playbook  ; )

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9 hours ago, JetsLife said:

If Belichick was running the Jets there would be zero talk of rebuilding. 

And yet all we here is rebuilding. 

The fish rots from the head. Chris Johnson hired Gase. Gase hired Joe D. 

And so the Jets narrative is once again, patience. 

They ain’t preaching patience in KC or Tennessee or Houston or Baltimore.

Joe D has barely had a chance to make an impact here yet.  Remember he was hired AFTER the draft and FA last year so he basically just had his 1st real offseason with us.  We have to give him a chance.

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6 hours ago, TNJet said:

And JD will fire Gase, lol.

Except that Gase doesn't work for JD, he works for the idiot Johnson bros. JD can't fire Gase. Maybe he can convince the Little Johnson to fire Gase, but it's not up to JD.

Why don't Jets fans have patience? I've been patient for 50 years. Even the biblical Job would run out of patience with the Jets by now...

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Patience is a nice word to use when you know that your team doesnt have a chance in hell to compete for anything significant.   If the Jets were talking Super Bowl, they'd be full of sh*t.   This team has been mismanaged like very few teams have ever seen.  And while it's never easy to preach patience to a fanbase who has had nothing but patience, it's reality.  JD wasnt making this team a competitor in 1 offseason.  

KC, Balt, Houston - were winning their divisions before finding the future of the NFL at QB.  The Jets?  

Oh and none of those team share a division with a team outwardly allowed to cheat the entire NFL for the last 20  years.

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16 minutes ago, JiF said:

Patience is a nice word to use when you know that your team doesnt have a chance in hell to compete for anything significant.   If the Jets were talking Super Bowl, they'd be full of sh*t.   This team has been mismanaged like very few teams have ever seen.  And while it's never easy to preach patience to a fanbase who has had nothing but patience, it's reality.  JD wasnt making this team a competitor in 1 offseason.  

KC, Balt, Houston - were winning their divisions before finding the future of the NFL at QB.  The Jets?  

Oh and none of those team share a division with a team outwardly allowed to cheat the entire NFL for the last 20  years.

Agreed.   Go back to the 2017 draft and look at all the QBs selected in the first round since then, and tell me which one has had a worse supporting cast and a worse situation than Sam has.   I’m not sure there is one.  

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10 hours ago, JetsLife said:

If Belichick was running the Jets there would be zero talk of rebuilding. 

And yet all we here is rebuilding. 

The fish rots from the head. Chris Johnson hired Gase. Gase hired Joe D. 

And so the Jets narrative is once again, patience. 

They ain’t preaching patience in KC or Tennessee or Houston or Baltimore.

 

Couldn’t agree more

 

the idea that you need 20 years to rebuild in the nfl is utter nonsense.  Teams go from 4-12 or worse to playoffs all the time.  Even the jets have done it fairly recently

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9 hours ago, JetsLife said:

If Belichick was running the Jets there would be zero talk of rebuilding. 

And yet all we here is rebuilding. 

The fish rots from the head. Chris Johnson hired Gase. Gase hired Joe D. 

And so the Jets narrative is once again, patience. 

They ain’t preaching patience in KC or Tennessee or Houston or Baltimore.

 

you mean like he did in cleveland?  or are you forgetting he was 5-11 during his first season with the patsies.  the point is the jets have been run down by over 7 years of drafting, coaching, and management ineptitude. it's going to take 2 joe douglas seasons before they can realistically be a real team.

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36 minutes ago, JiF said:

Patience is a nice word to use when you know that your team doesnt have a chance in hell to compete for anything significant.   If the Jets were talking Super Bowl, they'd be full of sh*t.   This team has been mismanaged like very few teams have ever seen.  And while it's never easy to preach patience to a fanbase who has had nothing but patience, it's reality.  JD wasnt making this team a competitor in 1 offseason.  

KC, Balt, Houston - were winning their divisions before finding the future of the NFL at QB.  The Jets?  

Oh and none of those team share a division with a team outwardly allowed to cheat the entire NFL for the last 20  years.

Who is talking Super Bowl?  The jets went from 1-15 to 9-7 in one season and they didn’t have a Qb on the roster anywhere near as talented as Sam Darnold 

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1 minute ago, rangerous said:

you mean like he did in cleveland?  or are you forgetting he was 5-11 during his first season with the patsies.  the point is the jets have been run down by over 7 years of drafting, coaching, and management ineptitude. it's going to take 2 joe douglas seasons before they can realistically be a real team.

If the jets are worse than 8-8 this year it’s a failure by Gase and the coaching staff.  Rationalize our next crappy unwatchable season all you want

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been patient since the day I started to walk as was when I started going to games over 40 years ago-I love when some jet fans preach patience-that time for that has long since past but we continue to follow our own poorly written history. We hire bad coaches over and over again and "we need to give them time" and waste 3-4 years in the process each time. We draft exactly the opposite of how winners draft(too early to say that about Joe)-in  an offensive driven league we try to win with defense and by drafting defense.  There were some folks on here that loved the idea of taking back to back defensive backs in a draft to build the team around them. How did that work out folks?

Gase has run a terrible offense with the dolphins and with the jets-bottom of the  barrell but some how some fans think he is the answer-the  only answer he is -the coach that should be fired first this season.

Fans will still defend Gase saying the roster is bad and "nobody" can win with those players. Only in Jet land do fans want a coach that runs a bad offense to be a head coach. The only real coach on this team is Williams and his side of the ball is why the jets won most of the games last year.

 

FU to Patience

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10 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

Who is talking Super Bowl?  The jets went from 1-15 to 9-7 in one season and they didn’t have a Qb on the roster anywhere near as talented as Sam Darnold 

The 9 and 7 year the HC blew an opportunity to get into the playoffs because he lost his cool in the last game of the season.  Parcells did a wonderful job of turning that team into a playoff caliber team and because he lacked self control flushed the post season down the drain.  Poor game management in a big spot, a complete choke job by Parcells.  

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1 minute ago, Biggs said:

The 9 and 7 year the HC blew an opportunity to get into the playoffs because he lost his cool in the last game of the season.  Parcells did a wonderful job of turning that team into a playoff caliber team and because he lacked self control flushed the post season down the drain.  Poor game management in a big spot, a complete choke job by Parcells.  

C’mon in a big spot who do you trust your starting qb or Leon Johnson?

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10 hours ago, JetsLife said:

If Belichick was running the Jets there would be zero talk of rebuilding. 

And yet all we here is rebuilding. 

The fish rots from the head. Chris Johnson hired Gase. Gase hired Joe D. 

And so the Jets narrative is once again, patience. 

They ain’t preaching patience in KC or Tennessee or Houston or Baltimore.

 

So the typical thought process on this forum is:

Macc was awful a destroyed our roster AND How come Douglas hasn't built a championship roster after 1 draft?

Do you guys realize how foolish you sound?

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3 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

So the typical thought process on this forum is:

Macc was awful a destroyed our roster AND How come Douglas hasn't built a championship roster after 1 draft?

Do you guys realize how foolish you sound?

I think it’s ptsd after Mac/Johnson apologists tried to use Idzik’s 2014 draft as a blanket excuse for the horrors of 2016-2019

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1 hour ago, sec101row23 said:

Agreed.   Go back to the 2017 draft and look at all the QBs selected in the first round since then, and tell me which one has had a worse supporting cast and a worse situation than Sam has.   I’m not sure there is one.  

Honestly, I'm not sure in the last 20 years I've seen a 1st RD QB mismanaged as bad as the Jets have with Sam.   Maybe RGIII but that was more how they handled his injury rather than building around him.

The only examples that are kind of close are the Cleveland picks sans Mayfield who might have the most talented collection of offense in the entire NFL.  The Jags QB's (though Gabbert actually had a great OL and MoJo Drew and Leftwich actually inherited a pretty good team).  David Carr.  Christian Ponder...but I dont think any of these examples were near Sam's talent.  

 

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11 hours ago, JetsLife said:

If Belichick was running the Jets there would be zero talk of rebuilding. 

And yet all we here is rebuilding. 

The fish rots from the head. Chris Johnson hired Gase. Gase hired Joe D. 

And so the Jets narrative is once again, patience. 

They ain’t preaching patience in KC or Tennessee or Houston or Baltimore.

 

Who is talking patience?  Did I miss something?

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Christopher Johnson announced a rebuild before the start of the 2017 season.

I haven't heard the word "patience" uttered by any member of the Jets.  In fact, Mr. Johnson said the opposite, said "I am not a patient man" when discussing how he would turn around the team.

Same for the worn-out Gase "he's an offensive guru" phrase.

Stop reading what the media is feeding you and eating it up like a SOJF Eeyore.  The media talks about "patience" and "offensive guru" so they can shoot down the concepts they themselves have invented.  They like Joe Douglas, so they talk of "patience" to the fans.  They hate Gase, so they talk of "he's not the offensive guru we were promised" when he was never promised to be such a thing except by them.

SAR I

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