BigRy56 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 The other beat writers are outwardly knocking Manish’s storylines now. The ‘CJ cut JD’s budget’ and ‘Gase hates meetings’ stories are getting crushed down. Couple that with Manish’s lost credentials and it’s hard to see how this guy still has a job... insane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmello Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Connor Hughes pretty much going in on Manish https://youtu.be/tYlkcEJafDs?t=135 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 You forgot the "S" in your thread title 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 You guys realize everytime Manish writes one of these articles, he probably comes here to gauge fan reaction. You guys giving him exactly what he wants. How bout we just stop talking about him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 16 minutes ago, Marshmello said: Connor Hughes pretty much going in on Manish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYlkcEJafDs @AFJF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, Marshmello said: Connor Hughes pretty much going in on Manish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYlkcEJafDs Damn I was going to ask for a time stamp, then I clicked play and they start with this right away. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, Maxman said: Damn I was going to ask for a time stamp, then I clicked play and they start with this right away. Interesting. Very well done. Honest, forthright and informative. Opinions, but not from a preconceived agenda standpoint. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 28 minutes ago, Marshmello said: Connor Hughes pretty much going in on Manish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYlkcEJafDs Thanks for posting it, this is excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Just now, Scott Dierking said: Very well done. Honest, forthright and informative. Opinions, but not from a preconceived agenda standpoint. Yeah I like what he said about camp. Said the story about virtual meetings is insane but wasn't the 2nd most insane thing he has hear. With the story about ownership handcuffing Joe Douglas being first. Gives real good information about that. He is fair, admits that CJ is flawed and has made some bad moves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, slats said: It's all about the DN. Cimini was our most hated reporter when he worked there, since he's left fans are much more receptive to his articles. Manish was well-liked when he first hit the scene because he wasn't as negative as Cimini had been, but he's since gone ridiculously over the top. The DN is the common denominator, and this McDonald dude is probably the next man up for them. Mehta was a totally different reporter when he worked for the Newark Star-Ledger. 100% different. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Marshmello said: Connor Hughes pretty much going in on Manish https://youtu.be/tYlkcEJafDs?t=135 He also completely nullifies the idea that Christopher Johnson is cheap, saying it's one of the most absurd things he's ever heard in his life, lol. He also says the Jets felt Jack Conklin was not worth $15M a year (and rightly so), and that next year's FA class will be the time to strike. Not a great day for the collective credibility of @bitonti, @AFJF or @FidelioJet. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 49 minutes ago, Dcat said: Mehta was a totally different reporter when he worked for the Newark Star-Ledger. 100% different. He was good when he started for sure. Somewhere along the lines he switched over and decided to play the villian I think Bar Stool should hire him, perfect fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: He also completely nullifies the idea that Christopher Johnson is cheap, saying it's one of the most absurd things he's ever heard in his life, lol. He also says the Jets felt Jack Conklin was not worth $15M a year (and rightly so), and that next year's FA class will be the time to strike. Not a great day for the collective credibility of @bitonti, @AFJF or @FidelioJet. Or... 1) Connor Hughes is now afraid of getting his credentials pulled, he'll say whatever it takes. Can't question the Gase anymore or your gone. 2) They can say that about Conklin but then tell me George Fant is worth $10mm? Please! That's just all cover for the organization. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 On 9/3/2020 at 12:24 PM, kdels62 said: Manish wrote a hit piece which I won’t link. In the piece he claims that Adam Gase did not fight to get in- person meetings with his players throughout camp. Manish cites anonymous sources claiming there are 2 reason for this. 1) Ownership did not want to change the layout at 1 Jets Drive since the arrangements would cost around $1 million dollars in order to be compliant with regulations. 2) Gase doesn’t care about having meetings and would rather not speak to players or coaches. This led to Gase being asked questions about the set up the Jets employed during training camp. Gase stated that Jets rented out an entire hotel for their players for the last month. That their team plan was to create a dorm room for the players to live in and build relationships. Gase also stated that the when their roster is trimmed they will begin with in-person meetings. All of this then lead to pointed tweets from Jets beat writers clearly aimed at Manish. In conclusion, Gase hates Manish, the beat writers hate Manish, Manish does not have credentials. And add one more conclusion that would have already been apparent to anyone with some knowledge about Gase and his past performance and interpersonal relationship skills Gase is a horrible coach Gase is not a likable personality. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 It's ridiculous that we are less than a week away from opening day and Jets fans are okay with looking at the bounty of the 2021 free agency period next MarchThere's a whole season to live through. Let's see if the pessimists are wrong. Connor Hughes saying it's a great plan and the Johnsons are actually super spendy doesn't prove anything.He's the company man who gets where he is by praising the company. Give him another two decades on this beat and Connor Hughes becomes rich cimini He also completely nullifies the idea that Christopher Johnson is cheap, saying it's one of the most absurd things he's ever heard in his life, lol. He also says the Jets felt Jack Conklin was not worth $15M a year (and rightly so), and that next year's FA class will be the time to strike. Not a great day for the collective credibility of [mention=5358]bitonti[/mention], [mention=5388]AFJF[/mention] or [mention=28455]FidelioJet[/mention].Sent from my Pixel 2 using JetNation.com mobile app 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Just now, bitonti said: It's ridiculous that we are less than a week away from opening day and Jets fans are okay with looking at the bounty of the 2021 free agency period next March There's a whole season to live through. Let's see if the pessimists are wrong. Connor Hughes saying it's a great plan and the Johnsons are actually super spendy doesn't prove anything. He's the company man who gets where he is by praising the company. Give him another two decades on this beat and Connor Hughes becomes rich cimini Sent from my Pixel 2 using JetNation.com mobile app Gase sucks. FACT Wood has made mistake after mistake. FACT Woody is not cheap. He will and does spend $$$ FACT None of us need Manish to state facts or obfuscate them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 48 minutes ago, THE BARON said: Gase sucks. FACT Wood has made mistake after mistake. FACT Woody is not cheap. He will and does spend $$$ FACT None of us need Manish to state facts or obfuscate them your statement 3 conflicts with your statement 1 there's a reason why this team is run by Adam Gase and Todd Bowles you get what you pay for coaches salaries are secret but there's a list of about 8 guys over 10 mil per year. the Belly, Andy Reids of the world. There's a tier down the Tomlins and Matt Rhules at 7-8 mil and there's minimum HC money at 3-4 mil Of course Todd Bowles is not a HC. Of course Gase is a moron, somehow a worse offensive coach than Kotite Joe douglas is a real GM. But they haven't paid for a HC in a long time it's like buying a Kia and wondering why it's not a Tesla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfan39 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, FidelioJet said: Or... 1) Connor Hughes is now afraid of getting his credentials pulled, he'll say whatever it takes. Can't question the Gase anymore or your gone. 2) They can say that about Conklin but then tell me George Fant is worth $10mm? Please! That's just all cover for the organization. Who pulled his credentials, the NFL or the Jets? If the NFL, the writers can say whatever they want. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 19 minutes ago, jetfan39 said: Who pulled his credentials, the NFL or the Jets? If the NFL, the writers can say whatever they want. Both. The Jets pulled the credentials with backing by the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Both. The Jets pulled the credentials with backing by the league. Man, I wish I could post the story. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Maxman said: Man, I wish I could post the story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, bitonti said: It's ridiculous that we are less than a week away from opening day and Jets fans are okay with looking at the bounty of the 2021 free agency period next March There's a whole season to live through. Let's see if the pessimists are wrong. Connor Hughes saying it's a great plan and the Johnsons are actually super spendy doesn't prove anything. He's the company man who gets where he is by praising the company. Give him another two decades on this beat and Connor Hughes becomes rich cimini Sent from my Pixel 2 using JetNation.com mobile app Thats because most fans understand that theres nothing that could have been done so are looking to next FA and draft. The team lacks talent from a decade of bad drafting. Throwing money around at average players in one single FA period would not have helped. Maybe would have brought up from 6-10 to 7-9? There is no magic wand. A lot of people made a lot of bad decisions to get us to this point and it will take time. And yes its been 10 years of garbage but that has nothing to do with JD. Its not his responsibility to step in and empty our cap space on mid tier FAs to make the fans happy. Thats what Maccacgnan did and he stunk. His job is to build a long term winner 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Maxman said: Man, I wish I could post the story. If in fact you do know, without giving away details: 1. Was it deserved from your personal opinion? 2. Can it be in any way construed as being vindictive by the Jets? Yes or no's suffice for both questions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Connor's podcast this morning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 5 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: He also completely nullifies the idea that Christopher Johnson is cheap, saying it's one of the most absurd things he's ever heard in his life, lol. He also says the Jets felt Jack Conklin was not worth $15M a year (and rightly so), and that next year's FA class will be the time to strike. Not a great day for the collective credibility of @bitonti, @AFJF or @FidelioJet. You are unwell and I hope you get help. I said he has (now had) sources. I was right. It made you sad. Move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 You are unwell and I hope you get help. I said he has (now had) sources. I was right. It made you sad. Move on. We are all unwell for rooting for this franchise. But hitching your wagon to Manish and not being able to take a joke about it is just straight looney tunes, buddy. You don’t get your credentials taken away by being a quality journalist. Whatever you were “right” about doesn’t justify your undying loyalty to the guy. Truly strange stuff. I wish you and your special friend well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 11 hours ago, Maxman said: He was good when he started for sure. Somewhere along the lines he switched over and decided to play the villian I think Bar Stool should hire him, perfect fit. It really is hard to remember the days when we openly wished that Manish would take over the NYDNs gig from Cimini. Manish always was the fair, unbiased voice in the room. Have to think the NYDNs is a big part of the problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 11 hours ago, FidelioJet said: 2) They can say that about Conklin but then tell me George Fant is worth $10mm? Please! Because 1 year $10 mil is the same as $20 mil? Do you not see a difference? A $42 mil deal? $30 mil guaranteed? For someone injured in 18, not the same in 19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 The jets aren’t going anywhere until they rid themselves of this wet blanket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: We are all unwell for rooting for this franchise. But hitching your wagon to Manish and not being able to take a joke about it is just straight looney tunes, buddy. You don’t get your credentials taken away by being a quality journalist. Whatever you were “right” about doesn’t justify your undying loyalty to the guy. Truly strange stuff. I wish you and your special friend well. I didn't hitch any wagons to anyone. I said he had sources inside the building. That was the beginning, middle and end of my point. Because people are insane, they interpreted my "Manish has sources" comment to mean "Manish is god himself". It's as if sports has become politics. If you aren't wishing death on somebody, it must mean you love everything about that person. I was right about him having sources. Manish lost his credentials. One has nothing to do with the other. Edited September 5, 2020 by AFJF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 6 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Because 1 year $10 mil is the same as $20 mil? Do you not see a difference? A $42 mil deal? $30 mil guaranteed? For someone injured in 18, not the same in 19. The way is see it. Having a good player for multiple years is a good thing. having a bad player for one year, not so good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 2 hours ago, FidelioJet said: The way is see it. Having a good player for multiple years is a good thing. having a bad player for one year, not so good. But you brought up money. You made it sound like it was a choice of Fant at $10 mil or Conklin for $15. Not even close to being the truth. For one Conklin costs double for 2020 at $20 mil, not even close. Then its $45 mil, $30 guaranteed. For a player who was injured in 2018 and not close to worth that kind of money in 2019. We have no clue what kind of player Fant will be in 2020. I'll leave it to JD for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: But you brought up money. You made it sound like it was a choice of Fant at $10 mil or Conklin for $15. Not even close to being the truth. For one Conklin costs double for 2020 at $20 mil, not even close. Then its $45 mil, $30 guaranteed. For a player who was injured in 2018 and not close to worth that kind of money in 2019. We have no clue what kind of player Fant will be in 2020. I'll leave it to JD for now. Conklin is a good player - you need good players to win. Good players want to get paid. That's the way the league works. Signing bad players on one year deals, for less money, is not how you win games. Stop with the injuries - he missed 7 games two years ago. So of the 64 games that he's been a pro - he's started in 57 of them. He is by no means injury prone - it's absurd you keep stating that ridiculous untruth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Conklin is a good player - you need good players to win. Good players want to get paid. That's the way the league works. Signing bad players on one year deals, for less money, is not how you win games. Stop with the injuries - he missed 7 games two years ago. So of the 64 games that he's been a pro - he's started in 57 of them. He is by no means injury prone - it's absurd you keep stating that ridiculous untruth. Sorry, he wasn't that good last season. I gave him the rehab excuse, he just wasn't a $20 mil player, not a $30 mil min investment. Did I say he was injury prone or did I say he was injured in 2018? He wasn't? We know the answers to each question. Who's being absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 6 hours ago, AFJF said: I didn't hitch any wagons to anyone. I said he had sources inside the building. That was the beginning, middle and end of my point. Because people are insane, they interpreted my "Manish has sources" comment to mean "Manish is god himself". It's as if sports has become politics. If you aren't wishing death on somebody, it must mean you love everything about that person. I was right about him having sources. Manish lost his credentials. One has nothing to do with the other. This is a relief. I will chalk up to coincidence the writing style of: 1. Forming a personal opinion of a subject. 2. Then creating a false narrative in order to support that personal opinion. 3. Wash, rinse, repeat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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