jeremy2020 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 9 hours ago, Jet Nut said: It really is hard to remember the days when we openly wished that Manish would take over the NYDNs gig from Cimini. Manish always was the fair, unbiased voice in the room. Have to think the NYDNs is a big part of the problem. It's simple. Being fair and unbiased doesn't get as many clicks as being outrageous. His job is not to be fair and unbiased, it's to get clicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: . His job is not to be fair and unbiased, it's to get clicks. Not really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 19 hours ago, Jet Life said: that has nothing to do with JD. Its not his responsibility to step in and empty our cap space on mid tier FAs to make the fans happy. Thats what Maccacgnan did and he stunk. His job is to build a long term winner There's a difference between "Empty the cap space" frivolously and spending enough to be competitive https://overthecap.com/free-agency-spending/ it's a double edged sword by the way if you don't spend on coaches like Belly and don't spend on FA to get better? you're relying on the strength of the program and coaches like Gregg Williams to scheme around bad players ok so wtf is Gase's value? Is Adam Gase making the small market team better with his offensive brillience? I know no one wants to hear this but JD's responsibility building a winner is to bottom out the team did in fact get worse without Adams and CJ opt out, and worse on offense without Robby and any targets for Sam. JD's responsibility includes getting rid of Gase and not resigning Sam (who may or may not be good but they wasted his rookie contract) is this the right strategy we shall see but strap on the feed bag it's not going to be a fun season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Buying out an empty hotel for the players. Must have cost a bundle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 53 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: Not really. You may *want* his job to be something different, but that doesn't make it so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: You may *want* his job to be something different, but that doesn't make it so. Any organization that is worth its salt, wants CREDIBILITY. Without credibility, the rest of your organization is a clown show without the 3 rings to support them. If you want to be a fly by night, go ahead and tell your writers to do anything to gather "clicks". You will be around for a year or two, tops. If your premise was true, why don't all the other Jet beat reporters have the same tact with their articles? Wouldn't the appeal of a "clicks" only mentality be forced down everyone else's throats? Of course it is not a click only profession. That is just not reality. Advertisers do not want to be supportive of a rag that does not contain credibility. Just makes no sense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, jeremy2020 said: It's simple. Being fair and unbiased doesn't get as many clicks as being outrageous. His job is not to be fair and unbiased, it's to get clicks. Thats not his job, his job is to report on the team. The NYDNs job is to get readers to bring in advertising dollars. Two completely different things, two different agendas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Scott Dierking said: Any organization that is worth its salt, wants CREDIBILITY. Without credibility, the rest of your organization is a clown show without the 3 rings to support them. If you want to be a fly by night, go ahead and tell your writers to do anything to gather "clicks". You will be around for a year or two, tops. If your premise was true, why don't all the other Jet beat reporters have the same tact with their articles? Wouldn't the appeal of a "clicks" only mentality be forced down everyone else's throats? Of course it is not a click only profession. That is just not reality. Advertisers do not want to be supportive of a rag that does not contain credibility. Just makes no sense. This is a lot of feelings. Companies tend to only care about their reputation in terms of dollars. Reputation is an issue in how it affects revenue. Apparently, manish being a rag writer keeps us talking about him ad nasuem. People race to get here to post whatever he says...every time. As your premise that a 'click' only site would not last...uhh...really? Many of your top google results on many subjects are clickbait websites who hire freelance writers to write articles with certain word counts in ways that put them at the top of the google results. You've got sites like the daily mirror which just puts up anything...you have aggregators (buzzfeed, thechive, etc) that do nothing, but post random content posts of crap that's generally made up (You won't believe what these people said about toilet paper!). I'm not sure where you get the idea that these sites wouldn't last. Manish job is to get your attention. He has it. As to why he's chosen to get your attention in this way...well, look at the big in depth analysis pieces and the attention they get versus whatever drivel manish shovels out. It makes a crap person with questionable morals, but he's doing exactly what his employer expects of him...get attention. 2 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Thats not his job, his job is to report on the team. The NYDNs job is to get readers to bring in advertising dollars. Two completely different things, two different agendas. Close. His job is to get your attention by reporting on the team. He has this entire board's attention hanging on every insipid word he utters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Close. His job is to get your attention by reporting on the team. He has this entire board's attention hanging on every insipid word he utters. Hes a reporter, thats his job. Hes not a marketing professional Hes not a sales person. Hes a reporter. He was there to report. Start worrying about clicks and you taint what youre there for, to report Cant agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Hes a reporter, thats his job. Hes not a marketing professional Hes not a sales person. Hes a reporter. He was there to report. Start worrying about clicks and you taint what youre there for, to report Cant agree You may not agree with it. I certainly don't like it, but let's see how far a sports writer gets without attention...let's see how much more his employer cares about 'awesome reporting' over that attention..We don't live in the best of all possible worlds, no matter what Pangloss tells you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 32 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: You may not agree with it. I certainly don't like it, but let's see how far a sports writer gets without attention...let's see how much more his employer cares about 'awesome reporting' over that attention.. If Manish were any kind of a "hot property", he would have a job someplace else. He would not be working for a printer. That is what the Daily News is any more. A printer that also happens to also print a newspaper. It is fine for reporters to "get attention". They often do so by writing creative pieces with substantive facts that they then allow the reader to draw their own conclusion. They do not create vendettas through what they write. They do not interject themselves into the story through contrived agendas. They have a sense of objectivity. Mehta has none of those. I can understand Mehta's want to create some type of name for himself, so he can flee the sinking ship of the DN. It is obvious that he sees those that have muckraked their way to prominence in national media. Mehta's hero, from his boyhood city of Philadelphia is Angelo Cataldi. Cataldi is a former beat reporter for the Philadelphia Inquirer. He was a good reporter. Today, he is a schlock radio host peddling conspiracies and far-flung stories to those that lap it up. Problem for Mehta is that he has tried to shortcut the way of beat reporter unearthing truth, covering the beat with objectivity, to being a sensationalist without substance, bypassing integrity and ethics. He is as you describe above, "click bait" for those that stay adrift without real job security or staying power. His goal is not to be that click bait turnstile. He wants to be a media darling. Just look at his twitter page. There is Manish seated at the old ESPN "Sports Reporter" show. An image from a show long ago. That was his career highlight. Being invited as 4th wheel on an ancient sports network talk show. And he never evolved from that. He thought he could shortcut the career by just being a sensationalist and getting his name out there in some absurd way. And here he is now. Locked out. It is actually sad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Scott Dierking said: If Manish were any kind of a "hot property", he would have a job someplace else. The Atlantic could use him. They love anonymous sources. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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