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Would you trade Leonard Williams for Ashtyn Davis?

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No. We know what Leo is have no idea what Ashtyn can become   But all signs point to a versatile player with huge upside so I’ll take Ashtyn over Leo 

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11 minutes ago, Alka said:

That's what we got, when we got the Giants 3rd round draft pick.  Ashtyn is turning out to possibly be the best value pick of the entire draft.

The Giants are hyping up Leo as being stout in the run, and blah blah blah.

And we still get a 5th round pick from the Giants next year as well.

Quite possibly the best move by Joe Douglas to date.

This thread is good bait for TrollyInGreen. The real question is, would you trade Ashtyn Davis for Leonard Williams? I wouldn't. 

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12 minutes ago, Alka said:

Ashtyn is turning out to possibly be the best value pick of the entire draft.

We can dream

 

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By about Thanksgiving 2020 Browns fans will be saying:

"Would you trade Baker Mayfield for Trevor Lawrence? Damn straight. Dump the midget for the tranny."

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31 minutes ago, CSNY said:

No. We know what Leo is have no idea what Ashtyn can become   But all signs point to a versatile player with huge upside so I’ll take Ashtyn over Leo 

And we know he's awful.  Not sure what point you're trying to make with that....

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43 minutes ago, Alka said:

That's what we got, when we got the Giants 3rd round draft pick.  Ashtyn is turning out to possibly be the best value pick of the entire draft.

The Giants are hyping up Leo as being stout in the run, and blah blah blah.

And we still get a 5th round pick from the Giants next year as well.

Quite possibly the best move by Joe Douglas to date.

leo plays at the level of a 5th rounder.  he did not and will not become the dominant dlineman that such a high draft pick should be.  he's not a bad player just not an impact player.

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37 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Yes?

Sure, but you'd trade Leonard Williams for Dexter McDougle and a large fries.

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I would trade Leonard Williams for Greg Salas. 
 
I hated that guy when he was here. Big overhyped waste of space on the 53. 

Dumb pick from the word go. The one position we didn’t need.
Then again I wanted Kevin white so there’s that.


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We got Ashyton Davis, a 5th rd picks, and $16m in salary relief for Leonard Williams. So yes I’d say we did alright in that deal 

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JD pulled a fast one on Gettleman. Still can't believe we got a 3rd for that JAG

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1 hour ago, Icer said:

JD pulled a fast one on Gettleman. Still can't believe we got a 3rd for that JAG

And they're currently paying him over 16 million dollars.  LOL.

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3 hours ago, Alka said:

That's what we got, when we got the Giants 3rd round draft pick.  Ashtyn is turning out to possibly be the best value pick of the entire draft.

The Giants are hyping up Leo as being stout in the run, and blah blah blah.

And we still get a 5th round pick from the Giants next year as well.

Quite possibly the best move by Joe Douglas to date.

We'll use that 5th rounder....or trade back for another pick, then take a starting Kicker next year like we took Braden Mann this year.  Leo will essentially have turned into a starting Safety and starting K.  Absolutely worth it.

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4 hours ago, Alka said:

That's what we got, when we got the Giants 3rd round draft pick.  Ashtyn is turning out to possibly be the best value pick of the entire draft.

The Giants are hyping up Leo as being stout in the run, and blah blah blah.

And we still get a 5th round pick from the Giants next year as well.

Quite possibly the best move by Joe Douglas to date.

Id expect to see this happen again and again.  Douglas will keep players that warrant an extension and jettison any that dont perform at the level of their salary demands for draft picks or comp picks.  Williams and Anderson are examples.   Very much like the Patriots and Ravens do business.

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4 hours ago, Alka said:

That's what we got, when we got the Giants 3rd round draft pick.  Ashtyn is turning out to possibly be the best value pick of the entire draft.

The Giants are hyping up Leo as being stout in the run, and blah blah blah.

And we still get a 5th round pick from the Giants next year as well.

Quite possibly the best move by Joe Douglas to date.

Jets may have got Ashtyn Davis just a few picks later with their second third round pick. You could say Jets traded Leonard Williams for Jabari Zuniga.

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Greg Williams will have Davis all over the field.. Looking forward to seeing what he's capable of.. Definitely seems like he'll make a big impact from the get go.

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4 hours ago, playtowinthegame said:

By about Thanksgiving 2020 Browns fans will be saying:

"Would you trade Baker Mayfield for Trevor Lawrence? Damn straight. Dump the midget for the tranny."

Only if Transmidgets matter....if the they don't matter, then the answer would probably be "No"

But this could be subject to change every day.  Actually maybe every second.  I really don't know at the present time.

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I’m hoping Mims is the best value pick of the draft but how are we making prediction?  Because of training camp tweets?  

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We have no idea what Davis will be.  But...

We know Leo is basically a JAG - so yes, I would trade Leo for Davis - without question.

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1 hour ago, Jetsbb said:

Jets may have got Ashtyn Davis just a few picks later with their second third round pick. You could say Jets traded Leonard Williams for Jabari Zuniga.

You could also say that if the Jets didn't have the Giants pick, that they would have used their pick on a pass rusher (Jabari Zuniga) and Ashtyn Davis would be on some other ball club.

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1 hour ago, JiF said:

I’m hoping Mims is the best value pick of the draft but how are we making prediction?  Because of training camp tweets?  

What else do we have to go on?

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4 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

We have no idea what Davis will be.  But...

We know Leo is basically a JAG - so yes, I would trade Leo for Davis - without question.

Davis has been killing it in TC and was excellent in the scrimmage.  He would be starting week 1 if Maye himself hadn’t had a great camp. The kid is going to be a star

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