“If They Don’t Bite as Puppies

[JetsLife]

they’re never gonna bite.” - Parcells

The Jets may not win the Super Bowl this season, but one hopes they will knock off Buffalo week 1. Buffalo is there for the taking. 

[jetophile]

Parcells, a slob who gave me nothing. Not inspired, except to call him a slob who gave me nothing.

[RedBeardedSavage]

Peyton Manning's rookie season:

 

 

Most of these "words of wisdom" are just flash and no substance. 

[#27TheDominator]

14 minutes ago, jetophile said:

Parcells, a slob who gave me nothing. Not inspired, except to call him a slob who gave me nothing.

The proper term is fat ****.

@T0mShane

[HawkeyeJet]

He also enjoyed shopping for his own groceries.

[Spoot-Face]

Cool thread. 10/10

You should definitely make more of these.

[Icer]

Thought this thread was going to be about Quinnen Williams

[T0mShane]

6 hours ago, jetophile said:

Parcells, a slob who gave me nothing. Not inspired, except to call him a slob who gave me nothing.

 

6 hours ago, #27TheDominator said:

The proper term is fat ****.

@T0mShane

Well, I certainly didn’t wake up today thinking I’d have to engage in not one but two bloody fistfights, but I guess fate had other ideas 

[82nd Airborne]

Trojan horse virus? 

[Augustiniak]

8 hours ago, HawkeyeJet said:

He also enjoyed shopping for his own groceries.

Dorian boose says hi

[HawkeyeJet]

27 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

Dorian boose says hi

So does Orlando Pace from the Hall of Fame 

[JustInFudge]

Remember when Parcells took an enormous dump on the entire franchise, cost us Manning, gave birth to the Patriots and yet Jets fans all around the country treat him like a god?

good times!

[T0mShane]

42 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

Dorian boose says hi

 

14 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

So does Orlando Pace from the Hall of Fame 

 

13 minutes ago, JiF said:

Remember when Parcells took an enormous dump on the entire franchise, cost us Manning, gave birth to the Patriots and yet Jets fans all around the country treat him like a god?

good times!

You deserve nothing

[rangerous]

parcells had a lot of saying like that.  most are spot on.  he was great at motivating his players.  i think the best coaching effort i ever saw was in 99 when they started out 1-5 or so and finished 8-8 with ray lucas.  on the other hand i sincerely feel he purposely sabotaged a game back in 97 when he pulled odonnell in the final detroit game for lucas (or maybe it was leon johnson)who threw an int in the red zone.  a win would have put them in the playoffs.

[#27TheDominator]

36 minutes ago, rangerous said:

parcells had a lot of saying like that.  most are spot on.  he was great at motivating his players.  i think the best coaching effort i ever saw was in 99 when they started out 1-5 or so and finished 8-8 with ray lucas.  on the other hand i sincerely feel he purposely sabotaged a game back in 97 when he pulled odonnell in the final detroit game for lucas (or maybe it was leon johnson)who threw an int in the red zone.  a win would have put them in the playoffs.

1999?  When he hung on to that sh*t Rick Mirer like grim death while they dropped game after game?  That is the year you want to point to?  Did Rick Mirer bite as a ******* puppy?  Bill Parcells is not the expert that I want picking my QBs.  

FWIW, the fat **** didn't really "pull" O'Donnnell.  He used Ray Lucas like a wildcat in that game.  Using him on 3rd and short.  The success Lucas had went to his head and when Lucas converted a 3rd and long he gave Lucas the series.  We were promptly rewarded with an INT, and we didn't see Lucas no mo'.  I'm not sure why you try a halfback option pass with a rookie RB on 1st down from the 9 yard line when you are down 3.  They sh*t away a 10 point lead in that game.  Just like they did the following year in Denver.  2 of the biggest choke jobs we have endured.

[Jetster]

Well, he's the only coach we had who's ass was in the front, so we have that going for us. 

[nyjunc]

10 hours ago, RedBeardedSavage said:

Peyton Manning's rookie season:

 

 

Most of these "words of wisdom" are just flash and no substance. 

To be fair he showed flashes of greatness (including leading a big comeback against us which was our only loss in the last 11 games of that season), the quote doesn't mean the player is great from day 1.

[T0mShane]

23 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

1999?  When he hung on to that sh*t Rick Mirer like grim death while they dropped game after game?  That is the year you want to point to?  Did Rick Mirer bite as a ******* puppy?  Bill Parcells is not the expert that I want picking my QBs.  

FWIW, the fat **** didn't really "pull" O'Donnnell.  He used Ray Lucas like a wildcat in that game.  Using him on 3rd and short.  The success Lucas had went to his head and when Lucas converted a 3rd and long he gave Lucas the series.  We were promptly rewarded with an INT, and we didn't see Lucas no mo'.  I'm not sure why you try a halfback option pass with a rookie RB on 1st down from the 9 yard line when you are down 3.  They sh*t away a 10 point lead in that game.  Just like they did the following year in Denver.  2 of the biggest choke jobs we have endured.

^^^Unhinged cancel culture

[ZachEY]

10 hours ago, RedBeardedSavage said:

Peyton Manning's rookie season:

 

 

Most of these "words of wisdom" are just flash and no substance. 

I mean, 26 TDs and 3700 yards for a rookie sort of feels like "biting".  We've crowned Sam Darnold a "franchise QB/Top 10 QB" here, and he's never thrown 20, and topped out at a hair over 3000 yards.

[#27TheDominator]

43 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

^^^Unhinged cancel culture

I will grant you the unhinged.

[RedBeardedSavage]

1 hour ago, TeddEY said:

I mean, 26 TDs and 3700 yards for a rookie sort of feels like "biting".  We've crowned Sam Darnold a "franchise QB/Top 10 QB" here, and he's never thrown 20, and topped out at a hair over 3000 yards.

Meh, he had Marshall Faulk with 2200 yards from scrimmage that year and still threw 28 interceptions.

He also went, what, 2-14? 3-13?

[rangerous]

2 hours ago, #27TheDominator said:

1999?  When he hung on to that sh*t Rick Mirer like grim death while they dropped game after game?  That is the year you want to point to?  Did Rick Mirer bite as a ******* puppy?  Bill Parcells is not the expert that I want picking my QBs.  

FWIW, the fat **** didn't really "pull" O'Donnnell.  He used Ray Lucas like a wildcat in that game.  Using him on 3rd and short.  The success Lucas had went to his head and when Lucas converted a 3rd and long he gave Lucas the series.  We were promptly rewarded with an INT, and we didn't see Lucas no mo'.  I'm not sure why you try a halfback option pass with a rookie RB on 1st down from the 9 yard line when you are down 3.  They sh*t away a 10 point lead in that game.  Just like they did the following year in Denver.  2 of the biggest choke jobs we have endured.

i guess you don't like parcells.  there's a lot to dislike but there's no denying he was a very good coach.  as far as the jets go he should've stuck around longer as coach.

[peebag]

12 hours ago, HawkeyeJet said:

He also enjoyed shopping for his own groceries.

Apparently at Aldi's.

[ZachEY]

1 hour ago, RedBeardedSavage said:

Meh, he had Marshall Faulk with 2200 yards from scrimmage that year and still threw 28 interceptions.

He also went, what, 2-14? 3-13?

If the question is, was that a good season, then perhaps no.  If the question is, did he flash something meaningful, I'd certainly say yes.

All that being said, I'm pretty sure the parcells quote is more on the nose, and about aggression, not potential.

[BROOKLYN JET]

Feed them gun powder.

[UntouchableCrew]

14 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

All that being said, I'm pretty sure the parcells quote is more on the nose, and about aggression, not potential.

This, 100%. It's more about nastiness, effort, toughness, etc. not potential/skill.

[#27TheDominator]

43 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

If the question is, was that a good season, then perhaps no.  If the question is, did he flash something meaningful, I'd certainly say yes.

All that being said, I'm pretty sure the parcells quote is more on the nose, and about aggression, not potential.

I'm not sure how much it is about aggression or potential.  I think it works for both.  Guys don't have to be awesome as rookies, but they should show something that makes you understand why they were drafted so high.

I remember the early days of Pennington and in camp they were complaining that he was afraid to make mistakes.  That is what I think of when I read this and I guess that is more aggression than potential.

[#27TheDominator]

2 hours ago, rangerous said:

i guess you don't like parcells.  there's a lot to dislike but there's no denying he was a very good coach.  as far as the jets go he should've stuck around longer as coach.

I hate that fat ****.  I admit he was a very good coach, but he cost us two seasons with moronic decisions.  I liked him better as a "culture builder" than as a coach, and much of that came from his pedigree.  He certainly should have stuck around longer, but that was his M.O.  Do the quick turnaround and then run off to somewhere else before the job was finished.  In short, he was a dick that ran out on us.  Just like he ran out on the Pats and the Bucs before us.  Oh, and he is fat.  

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, #27TheDominator said:

Do the quick turnaround and then run off to somewhere else before the job was finished. 

You know who else did this? Jesus. That’s who. 

[Jetsfan80]

6 hours ago, JiF said:

Remember when Parcells took an enormous dump on the entire franchise, cost us Manning, gave birth to the Patriots and yet Jets fans all around the country treat him like a god?

good times!

Totes!  Things have been so great since Parcells, haven't they.

[Jetsfan80]

4 hours ago, TeddEY said:

I mean, 26 TDs and 3700 yards for a rookie sort of feels like "biting".  We've crowned Sam Darnold a "franchise QB/Top 10 QB" here, and he's never thrown 20, and topped out at a hair over 3000 yards.

Meanwhile....

Peyton Manning's 2nd season:

• 13-3 record, AFC East division title
• 62.1 % completions
• 26 TDs/15 INTs
• 7.8 Yards per Attempt

Sam Darnold's 2nd season:

• Made out with dirty Morristown chick, got mono
• 7-6 record, which included wins over teams led by Daniel Jones, Dwayne Haskins, Mason Rudolph/Devlin Hodges and Matt Barkley
• Swept Bills according to SAR I
• 61.9 % completions
• 19 TDs/13 INTs
• 6.9 Yards per Attempt

[Savage69]

4 hours ago, TeddEY said:

I mean, 26 TDs and 3700 yards for a rookie sort of feels like "biting".  We've crowned Sam Darnold a "franchise QB/Top 10 QB" here, and he's never thrown 20, and topped out at a hair over 3000 yards.

Or played more then 13 games in a season

[Sperm Edwards]

5 hours ago, #27TheDominator said:

Did Rick Mirer bite as a ******* puppy? 

rofl

[Savage69]

33 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Meanwhile....

Peyton Manning's 2nd season:

• 13-3 record, AFC East division title
• 62.1 % completions
• 26 TDs/15 INTs
• 7.8 Yards per Attempt

Sam Darnold's 2nd season:

• Made out with dirty Morristown chick, got mono
• 7-6 record, which included wins over teams led by Daniel Jones, Dwayne Haskins, Mason Rudolph/Devlin Hodges and Matt Barkley
• Swept Bills according to SAR I
• 61.9 % completions
• 19 TDs/13 INTs
• 6.9 Yards per Attempt

And Peyton only had All Pro James at RB and All Pro Harrison at W/R. Sam had  the much better players on O..?

[RedBeardedSavage]

2 hours ago, TeddEY said:

If the question is, was that a good season, then perhaps no.  If the question is, did he flash something meaningful, I'd certainly say yes.

All that being said, I'm pretty sure the parcells quote is more on the nose, and about aggression, not potential.

If it's about aggression and grit, I can totally understand it.

But that's the problem with citing quotes like this; it's incredibly subjective to apply in any meaningful way. And if we go back to the 'potential' interpretation; Shonn Greene flashed his rookie year, and he quickly fizzled out of the NFL. 

And if we apply the aggression/grit interpretation, seems like Mo Wilk & Sheldon Richardson showed plenty of those two traits... then it felt like, overnight, did not care about the game anymore.

Anyways, the season is about start and we'll actually be able to talk about the present instead of the past & future. Go Jets.