Alka Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 As a Jets fan, I was disgusted before last season and predicted that the Jets would be awful due to their garbage offensive line. Osemele was supposed to come in and be really good, we brought a guy out of retirement who was awful at center, our right guard in Winters was either playing hurt or not playing. And our right tackle was a 3rd round draft pick who experts said was an underperfomer. Average left tackle and there you have your 2019 offensive line. How anyone can honestly evaluate Sam Darnold last year with his getting mononucleosis in early season, add to it that all the draft picks in the past was on the defense and nothing of substance was devoted to the offense, and it seems like a "hit job" that experts are saying that Darnold is 29th best QB in the league. This year is the year to properly evaluate Sam Darnold. I don't want to hear that the receivers are no good, because I remember when Tom Brady worked with no-name wide receivers and did fine. Sam got himself an offensive line, got a running back, tight end and as far as I am concerned, that's good enough. Sam, make your wide receivers better by not overthrowing to them and putting them in good spots to succeed. I believe with this offensive line, This is the year to evaluate Sam Darnold. Not last year, not as a rookie, not next year when we can draft some stud wide receiver, but this year. It's put up or shut up time this year. But to say Darnold is no good because of the past is wrong, and to me it's just the fact that the experts like to pile on hate on the NY Jets. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2k8 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I think it's great. I hope it helps motivate Sam to be the QB we all hoped he would be when we drafted him. The training wheels come off tomorrow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted September 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2020 I think if he plays better the situation will solve itself. 5 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maxman Posted September 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2020 Sam is the truth. 7 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Maxman said: Sam is the truth. And the light and the way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I do not see much hate but I see a lot of doubt. I think this doubt is premature, the talent he has had to work with and the coaching is atrocious. My other feeling is that people that are salivating over Trevor Lawrence are way off base. Bring in any new young Qb with the jets as they are and he will have as tough a time if not more tough than darnold. I do not have tons of patience for prospects as they have to show something really good early but with Darnold he needs more talent and better coaching. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waka Flocka Flacco Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: doubt is premature As opposed to what? Certainty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gibby Posted September 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2020 I think the criticism of Sam is fair. He’s been up and down. He’s shown signs of being a franchise QB then takes a step back. He needs to be more consistent. If the line plays well this year- he needs to elevate the players around him. That’s what good quarterbacks do. Brady never had great receivers. He Moss for a few years and a great TE. He took other teams garbage and turned them into gold. Sam can change the narrative this year. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted September 12, 2020 Author Share Posted September 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I do not see much hate but I see a lot of doubt. I think this doubt is premature, the talent he has had to work with and the coaching is atrocious. My other feeling is that people that are salivating over Trevor Lawrence are way off base. Bring in any new young Qb with the jets as they are and he will have as tough a time if not more tough than darnold. I do not have tons of patience for prospects as they have to show something really good early but with Darnold he needs more talent and better coaching. He's coming into the season healthy and he's got an offensive line. His tight end (Herndon) is healthy and we got a running back. The defense is good enough to get off the field and give the offense some time to do their stuff. This is the year. You don't need great wide receivers, you need to give the QB time to throw the ball, and a running game to keep the defense honest. No more excuses as far as I'm concerned. But equally Darnold got a raw deal with this crappy offensive line of the past. His first year starts tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I don’t expect brilliance tomorrow. The Bills contained some pretty good QBs last year. But, by the end of the season, I do think we will know we have our Qb Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusionCA Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 The offensive line had nothing to do with Darnold getting mono Thats irresponsible and stupid , keeping yourself healthy and be careful who you get close to is just as important. The level of excuses for Darnold is off the charts 2 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted September 12, 2020 Author Share Posted September 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, fusionCA said: The offensive line had nothing to do with Darnold getting mono Thats irresponsible and stupid , keeping yourself healthy and be careful who you get close to is just as important. The level of excuses for Darnold is off the charts Like I've been saying throughout this thread, no more excuses! It starts now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 He deserves better receivers than the ones we have playing tomorrow. I'll say that. But he should be able to get something done. Irregardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusionCA Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Just now, Alka said: Like I've been saying throughout this thread, no more excuses! It starts now. I am not even talking about his level of play , how can you be so irresponsible when the Jets gave you the keys to the kingdom ? How many starting QB's got mono the last 10 years ? My guess would be 0 (maybe 1) Until I see otherwise Darnold is unprofessional kid and you can't win like that I hope he change that perception and be better 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 24 minutes ago, Alka said: It's put up or shut up time this year. But to say Darnold is no good because of the past is wrong, and to me it's just the fact that the experts like to pile on hate on the NY Jets. If Darnold can’t succeed in a Gase offense then he’s got to go. SAR I 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mogglez Posted September 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, fusionCA said: The offensive line had nothing to do with Darnold getting mono Thats irresponsible and stupid , keeping yourself healthy and be careful who you get close to is just as important. The level of excuses for Darnold is off the charts Getting mono is far from "irresponsible and stupid" given how common it is, but go off. 5 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Just now, fusionCA said: I am not even talking about his level of play , how can you be so irresponsible when the Jets gave you the keys to the kingdom ? How many starting QB's got mono the last 10 years ? My guess would be 0 (maybe 1) Probably because they got it when they were younger. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusionCA Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Mogglez said: Getting mono is far from "irresponsible and stupid" given how common it is, but go off. As a QB your body is the most important thing and you should do everything you can to keep it on top shape . Getting mono is not that 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 this is what “the goat “ did last year vs the Bills in Buffalo . Like I said, tomorrow may not be the best, but I do expect him to stamp himself by season’s end Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mogglez Posted September 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2020 Just now, fusionCA said: As a QB your body is the most important thing and you should do everything you can to keep it on top shape . Getting mono is not that He went out and kissed someone or accidentally grabbed the wrong cup and took a sip. You can't actually be for real with this. 10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, Waka Flocka Flacco said: As opposed to what? Certainty? Your words not mine. Some people had certainty attached to Mark Sanchez after his 1st two years of coming into the league with a team with a great running game, great oline, great defense and at least passable offensive weapons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, SAR I said: If Darnold can’t succeed in a Gase offense then he’s got to go. SAR I This is so 100% totally backwards it is not even funny. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Until he proves otherwise, Sam is a bad QB. His first 2 years have not gone well. By year 3 the excuses arent going to be enough to defend him. I hope he has his breakthrough year and elevates the team. Do I think his weapons are downright bad again? Yes. But, at a certain point you have to work with what you're given. I'm looking for a big jump. 2:1 TD ratio, 4000 yards, play a full season. He needs to prove he is a franchise QB.i hope he does. But until he does he doesnt deserve effusive praise or given labels of things he hasnt proven to be. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joejet Posted September 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, fusionCA said: As a QB your body is the most important thing and you should do everything you can to keep it on top shape . Getting mono is not that I have to give you credit, you have managed to post3 of the dumbest statements all in the same thread. Congratulations!? 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonMaynardFan Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 21 minutes ago, Mogglez said: Getting mono is far from "irresponsible and stupid" given how common it is, but go off. Has any other QB in NFL history gotten mono during the NFL season? Honestly asking. I can’t think of any off the top of my head. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, SAR I said: If Darnold can’t succeed in a Gase offense then he’s got to go. SAR I Tannehill didn't really succeed in a Gase offense, then they parted ways resulting in one doing much better and the other looking the same. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, DonMaynardFan said: As any other QB in NFL history gotten mono during the NFL season? Honestly asking. I can’t think of any off the top of my head. There was one other years ago. Good QBs start to get extensions after year 3 off their contracts. If Darnold wants one, he needs to step up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 35 minutes ago, SAR I said: If Darnold can’t succeed in a Gase offense then he’s got to go. SAR I Like those before him? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, DonMaynardFan said: Has any other QB in NFL history gotten mono during the NFL season? Honestly asking. I can’t think of any off the top of my head. Honestly not sure. Like I said, it's an incredibly common illness so most probably had it already. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevisIsland610 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 29 minutes ago, SAR I said: If Darnold can’t succeed in a Gase offense then he’s got to go. SAR I Yeah, Gase is such an offensive genius. How could anyone not succeed in his system? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Philc1 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Sam will end up the best Qb out of that 2018 class 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BigRy56 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 A lot of people just don’t like redheads 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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