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I have been a big Darnold supporter and I still am. I believe he will be a FQB for this team but I have been thinking, we might be looking at a Matt Stafford situation where we have a very talented QB that just doesn't have what it takes to pull the team up. Now Stafford did ave Megatron and now has Gallowday and Sam has not had anyone that approaches the talent level so it is difficult to make a fair comparison but I was wondering what the rest of you think. Are we in a position like Detroit where we have a QB that should be able to lead this team higher but just doesn't. 

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Stafford is like 15th all time in passing yards. We can hope Darnold has that type of career 

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2 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

Stafford is way better than Sam Darnold at this point.

Oh really?

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I wish.  At least with even awful teams Stafford could play.  Darnold is another in the plethora of Jet frauds who looks lost on the field.   Just wait a few weeks and see how bad this gets.  It's going to be scary.

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2 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

Stafford is like 15th all time in passing yards. We can hope Darnold has that type of career 

And 0 playoff wins.

 

Did Stafford play for Gase?

 

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Just now, Irish Jet said:

Stafford threw 41 TD's in his third season. Is that where you see Darnold at right now?

Well no he doesn’t have the 2nd or 3rd greatest ever WR to chuck it to he has Donte Moncreif and Chris Hogan 

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This is a funny topic because I was thinking about what teams might potentially trade for Sam if we ended up drafting Trevor Lawrence, and replacing Stafford in Detroit was the best fit I came up with due to mechanics and demeanor. 

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2 minutes ago, Irish Jet said:

Irrelevant. If you're going to invite the comparison you better be prepared to compare their production. What else is there to compare? Haircuts?

Oh wait I forgot from JI days.  Jets fans think Stafford > Elway

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1 minute ago, Greenseed4 said:

This is a funny topic because I was thinking about what teams might potentially trade for Sam if we ended up drafting Trevor Lawrence, and replacing Stafford in Detroit was the best fit I came up with due to mechanics and demeanor. 

We’ll trade him to the Bucs for a middle round pick and Arians will make him a star

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I'm going to put this out as a general rebuttal to all the glowing Stafford stats being put out here. 

No playoff wins, no SB appearances. If Sam becomes better than Stafford stat wise and we have the same kind of post season success, I will consider him a disaster. We aren't playing fantasy football here. 

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1 minute ago, More Cowbell said:

I'm going to put this out as a general rebuttal to all the glowing Stafford stats being put out here. 

No playoff wins, no SB appearances. If Sam becomes better than Stafford stat wise and we have the same kind of post season success, I will consider him a disaster. We aren't playing fantasy football here. 

Never won a playoff game and had the greatest WR not named Jerry Rice to throw to almost his entire career 

 

Oh and Stafford got outplayed at home by Mitch Trubisky yesterday

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14 minutes ago, Irish Jet said:

Irrelevant. If you're going to invite the comparison you better be prepared to compare their production. What else is there to compare? Haircuts?

No, comparisons that prove their point are OK. Comparisons that don't are explained away as not being related to the compared players but rather are due to "coaching," "supporting cast," or the phases of the moon during game time.

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Matt Stafford btw has the type of natural arm strength that he can throw a football through a piece of plywood 

darnold's arm is OK but they are not in the same neighborhood in terms of velocity 

Stafford is closer to Favre or Allen he's got a rare arm could have made millions as a pitcher in MLB probably 

 

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If Darnold played in a dome and had calvin johnson hed be a first team all pro

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16 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

No playoff wins, no SB appearances.  

Mark Sanchez leads this franchise in playoff wins as a QB

Rex Ryan leads this franchise in playoff wins as a HC

it's not the greatest stat to use in casual conversation

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3 minutes ago, bitonti said:

Matt Stafford btw has the type of natural arm strength that he can throw a football through a piece of plywood 

darnold's arm is OK but they are not in the same neighborhood in terms of velocity 

Stafford is closer to Favre or Allen he's got a rare arm could have made millions as a pitcher in MLB probably 

 

Darnold has elite arm talent, don't take it from me, take it from the haters

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Y3k said:

If Darnold played in a dome and had calvin johnson hed be a first team all pro

And if I would've been born with Brad Pitt's bone structure, I'd be in pictures.

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Stafford has one of the strongest arms the league has ever or will see.  He is also accurate.  He is also spirited.

Darnold has average to below average arm strength, has not been accurate and plays like his head is somewhere in CA and not NY. 

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28 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

Oh wait I forgot from JI days.  Jets fans think Stafford > Elway

JI was for cowards.

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3 minutes ago, Y3k said:

Darnold has elite arm talent, don't take it from me, take it from the haters

 

 

this tweet is from last november btw

Look at the game vs Buffalo this week it doesn't exactly scream "rare arm talent" 

certainly not in the Matt Stafford category

i never said Stafford was super accurate by the way 

that was supposed to be Darnold's thing 

 

 

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In his 3rd season (second full year as a starter), Matt Stafford threw 41TDs (16 picks) and 5,000+ yards and a QB rating of 97.  I would love to see Darnold with numbers like that.

In fairness, that was also Stafford's best season, and he has not come close to producing those numbers again.  Byt at this stage of his career, Darnold has some catching up to do to be considered in a similar category to Stafford.

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Darnold is so much closer to Mark Sanchez 2.0 than Matt Stafford 2.0. We could only wish that he was

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3 minutes ago, bitonti said:

this tweet is from last november btw

Look at the game vs Buffalo this week it doesn't exactly scream "rare arm talent" 

certainly not in the Matt Stafford category

i never said Stafford was super accurate by the way 

that was supposed to be Darnold's thing 

 

 

You think his arm got weaker since november? 

I didnt see a single throw missed because of arm strength. 

Darnold was unusually inaccurate. 

What is your motivation for spreading negative false naratives?

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Matt Stafford threw for 5k and 41 TD's his third year in the league.

No, Sam Darnold is not Matt Stafford.

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34 minutes ago, Greenseed4 said:

This is a funny topic because I was thinking about what teams might potentially trade for Sam if we ended up drafting Trevor Lawrence, and replacing Stafford in Detroit was the best fit I came up with due to mechanics and demeanor. 

Belichick will figure out how to get Sam if we give up on him too early.

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Just now, Y3k said:

You think his arm got weaker since november? 

I didnt see a single throw missed because of arm strength. 

Darnold was unusually inaccurate. 

What is your motivation for spreading negative false naratives?

Equating Darnold's with Stafford's arm strength is a very uninformed opinion.

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