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1 minute ago, Shelbyblue said:

Everybody shines brighter when they leave NYJ. 

Not really, no.  We just draft a lot of players that are sh*tty to begin with.

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1 hour ago, DonMaynardFan said:

What NFL safety doesn't get taken advantage of every now and then.

It happens.

He gets taken advantage of all the time.  And the Seahawks paid two 1sts and a 3rd for that privilege, plus will eventually need to pay him $18M+ per season.

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3 hours ago, Dunnie said:

I was totally a supporter until he went full douchebag... No one should ever go full douchebag... Glad we got what we got for him sucks that we lost a generational talent.

"generational talent".  lol.

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3 hours ago, Dunnie said:

.... I definitely won't deny that the final outcome you illustrate here is a possibility. But you can also not deny that his energy, enthusiasm, and knack for making game-changing plays behind the line of scrimmage gives him quite a bit of value at the current stage of his career.

Can you quantify this?

And no one ever said he carries no or little value.  Based on what similar players to him get paid, I estimated over the offseason that he's worth about $12 or 13M per year.  

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2 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

Adams has always been a good cover safety when asked to do it. Edelman beat him a couple of times last night and he's definitely at his best when he is allowed to freelance but his coverage skills are good. He's the most complete safety in the NFL.

He was asked to do it last night and did it poorly.  So this is clearly false.

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1 minute ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

1 game doesn't make it false. He has always been a good cover safety. That's a fact. Unless you are playing semantics and clinging to the word "always" in a literal sense. 

3+ seasons is what makes it false.  It's why Gregg Williams sent him on a blitz 90x last season, top 10 in the NFL among defensive players.  He's basically a Linebacker who sometimes covers TE's and RB's in a decent fashion.  He can't cover WR's.

But sure, tell me more about these "facts".  lol.

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10 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

Dude did you watch the game it was not poor he was right on top of Edelman. . Edelman made the catches... It wasn't like he was toasted by 15-20 yards

This is a unique way to spin 6-6 for 157 yds.

He also got trucked by Cam for a TD.  I guess you missed that play.

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17 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

Sorry but this is incorrect.

He has always been very strong in coverage. Have you ever considered that he blitzes a lot because he's really really good at it?

 He's not a CB. He's not going to shutdown receivers when he's asked to cover them. He consistently grades out at the top of the league when he's asked to drop into coverage. Fact.

* Against RBs and TEs

Yes, he's amazing in coverage while his teams get toasted for 400+ yards in back to back weeks.  Just amazing, and so impactful.

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1 minute ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

Is he suppose to cover everybody on the field? His coverage skills have always been good. 

If all he can cover is RBs and TEs, it puts a low ceiling on his upside.  This has been the case his entire career.  Especially since he has no ability to jump in front of passes like you hope out of a supposedly elite Safety.

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Just now, ScarletKnight89 said:

It doesn't put a low ceiling on his upside when he can blitz and play the run as well as he can. 

I'd love to be presented with the evidence that he can only cover TEs and RBs besides pointing to a couple of catches by Edelman last night.

When he blitzes and doesn't get there, it puts an added strain on the rest of the defense.  That happened last night and all season long with the Jets last year.

Playing the run would be nice if it was the 1990s.

You don't give up two firsts, a 3rd, and an $18M+ per year contract to a player with Adams' skillset.

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1 minute ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

 I still would like to see the evidence that he can only guard RBs and TEs.

I was a supporter of the Jamal Adams trade. JD made a good deal. But that doesn't mean Jamal Adams isn't a great player. Two things can be true at the same time.

The Jets defense looked better last year with Jamal Adams on the field putting that terrible "strain" on us then it has at any point so far this year. 

Adams played 959 snaps last year. He rushed the QB on 99 of them and dropped into coverage 517 times. He's not putting as much of a strain on the defense as you think he is. 

 

The onus is on you to provide the evidence, not me.  You said he was excellent in coverage.  I presume you base this on some random PFF post?

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1 minute ago, Jethead said:

Over the last 10 years, long enough to remove chance from the equation.

Which team has shown consistently superior judgement Seahawks or Jets?

Let's see, hmmm...that's a tough one.

All you Adams haters, "two good eyes, but you just don't see".

So would you trade the two 1sts and a 3rd back for Jamal?

History has shown trades like that tend to favor the team getting the picks, not the player.  Seattle can be a great org AND have gotten this one wrong, too.  It happens.  They don't do everything right.

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Just now, Warfish said:

I'm not feeling much of a difference tbqh. 

And the facts/numbers bear that out:

--Thru 2 games in 2020, Maye has 2 sacks, 10 solo tackles, 7 assists, 2 TFL, 1 Forced Fumble, 2 Passes Defensed, 0 INT's

--Thru 2 games in 2020, Adams has 2 sacks, 14 solo tackles, 8 assists, 3 TFL, 0 Forced Fumbles, 0 Passes Defensed, 0 INT's.

--Thru 2 games in 2019, Adams had 0 Sacks, 10 solo tackles, 1 assist, 1 TFL, 0 Forced Fumbles, 1 Pass Defensed, 0 INT's.

Lets be clear, Maye in 2020 in out-producing 2019 Jamal Adams thru 2 games, and is on-par with the 2020 Jamal Adams thru 2 games.

Jamal Adams is not our biggest problem in 2020. 

Our OFFENSE is.

 

And even if our defense was the bigger problem, Jamal Adams' presence wasn't going to fix sh*t.  

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1 minute ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

I base it off of PFF grading that judge every play a player plays. I don't what you grade it off of. I told you he was good in coverage.

You said he can only guard RBs and TEs. I don't know what you are basing that off of. 

PFF also said Kerry Rhodes >>> Jamal Adams.  So use that site at your own risk.  It won't always give you the conclusions that you want to hear.

PFF also doesn't distinguish between RBs, TEs and WRs.  

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15 hours ago, Dunnie said:

You mean the play where he saved the game by squashing cam at the two yard line... Yeah I do remember that play

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app
 

That wasn't him.  lol.  He just celebrated like it was him.

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15 hours ago, Dunnie said:

... well based on the results of the trade I would say your categorically wrong.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app
 

Jamal Adams has 0 to do with the Seahawks being 2-0, and we' be 0-2 with him on the team.  

The results of the trade have not played out yet, because we haven't used any of the 3 picks we got.  Unless you want to talk about Bradley McDougald, I suppose?

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