JustInFudge Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 It like getting away from Gase/the Jets is an absolute feeling of nirvana, shocked the Pres didnt chime in... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Who? Never heard of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 It seems Douglas' plan to create "the best culture in sports" is well on its way. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Kelvin beachum Has never won at the point of attack ever. In his life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maxman Posted September 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2020 Beachum is a great guy. He definitely deserves to have fun right now. That said, the Jets upgraded the position in a big way. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Irish Jet Posted September 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2020 They’re literally all 2-0 except Kalil who retired. Shell - Seahawks Beachum - Cardinals Osemele - Chiefs Winters - Bills Actually unbelievable. 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Maxman said: Beachum is a great guy. He definitely deserves to have fun right now. That said, the Jets upgraded the position in a big way. "Don't be acting brand new" 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Osmele has no business celebrating. He should be ashamed of how he performed last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I mean both of those positions were upgraded and those two contributed to the problem for years. I’m good with Becton and Fant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetstream23 Posted September 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: They’re literally all 2-0 except Kalil who retired. Shell - Seahawks Beachum - Cardinals Osemele - Chiefs Winters - Bills Actually unbelievable. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: They’re literally all 2-0 except Kalil who retired. Shell - Seahawks Beachum - Cardinals Osemele - Chiefs Winters - Bills Actually unbelievable. Very Jet-like scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 21 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: It seems Douglas' plan to create "the best culture in sports" is well on its way. It's impossible to see a positive culture come to fruition until the wins start coming. I like the high character guys we've brought in to date without necessarily sacrificing much in athleticism or ability. Becton is both athletically gifted at a seemingly unlimited level AND seems to be a future leader for this team (if he isn't one already). But we obviously need a lot more building blocks to start to turn the tide here. Hopefully a guy like Ashtyn Davis can be another building block like that, on the defensive end. I'm truly surprised we haven't seen him on the field much just yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: It's impossible to see a positive culture come to fruition until the wins start coming. I like the high character guys we've brought in to date without necessarily sacrificing much in athleticism or ability. Becton is both athletically gifted at a seemingly unlimited level AND seems to be a future leader for this team (if he isn't one already). But we obviously need a lot more building blocks to start to turn the tide here. Hopefully a guy like Ashtyn Davis can be another building block like that, on the defensive end. I'm truly surprised we haven't seen him on the field much just yet. I agree, it was a joke. But clearly Adam Gase is not conducive to a "good culture" in more ways than one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 58 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: They’re literally all 2-0 except Kalil who retired. Shell - Seahawks Beachum - Cardinals Osemele - Chiefs Winters - Bills Actually unbelievable. You have to wonder why these guys are good enough on other teams but the worst at their position in the entire league while they're here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Maxman said: Beachum is a great guy. He definitely deserves to have fun right now. That said, the Jets upgraded the position in a big way. After watching Becton pancake several Niners, I would lay low if I were Beachum... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Maxman said: Beachum is a great guy. He definitely deserves to have fun right now. That said, the Jets upgraded the position in a big way. Literally 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 15 minutes ago, JiF said: You have to wonder why these guys are good enough on other teams but the worst at their position in the entire league while they're here. Well I know Winters didn’t start week 1, Osmele showed potential so that is not a surprise. If Shell is doing well, that would be a bit of a surprise to me but I bet he is still worse than Fant. And Beachum is serviceable. I doubt he is any different in the new colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Irish Jet said: They’re literally all 2-0 except Kalil who retired. Shell - Seahawks Beachum - Cardinals Osemele - Chiefs Winters - Bills Actually unbelievable. Are these guys all starters on their new teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Drums said: Well I know Winters didn’t start week 1, Osmele showed potential so that is not a surprise. If Shell is doing well, that would be a bit of a surprise to me but I bet he is still worse than Fant. And Beachum is serviceable. I doubt he is any different in the new colors. All of them but Winters have played 100% of the snaps for the 3 of the best offenses in Football. lol Arizona, Seattle and Kansas City. I'm not saying we're missing any of them, I'm not saying we didnt upgrade. I'm saying, the examples of players who are just fine/to good/to better/to having career years away from Adam Gase keep piling up. All these dudes contributed to what was one of the worst lines I've ever seen, suddenly playing 100% of the snaps on 2-0 teams that put up points. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: Are these guys all starters on their new teams? Winters isn't. He's the backup RG behind Cody Ford in Buffalo. The rest are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, JiF said: All of them but Winters have played 100% of the snaps for the 3 of the best offenses in Football. lol Arizona, Seattle and Kansas City. I'm not saying we're missing any of them, I'm not saying we didnt upgrade. I'm saying, the examples of players who are just fine/to good/to better/to having career years away from Adam Gase keep piling up. All these dudes contributed to what was one of the worst lines I've ever seen, suddenly playing 100% of the snaps on 2-0 teams that put up points. Yup. I mean it helps that they are the weak link to good lines instead of the strong link on a weak line but I’m picking up what you’re putting down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 All But Winters I believe. But, for Osemele and Shell they are playing on teams with HOF generational QBs so it makes blocking a lot easier. Even Beachem is on a team where the QB is coming into his own. I love Darnold, but right now no matter the reason bad coaching, bad skill players, etc. he is just not consistent at all, so blocking for him is that much harder. I know, I was a LG in HS and there is a big difference blocking depending on how good the QB is behind you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, Drums said: Literally True. You see the bio and the size stands out. Then you watch him on the field and are still shocked at how big he is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Irish Jet said: They’re literally all 2-0 except Kalil who retired. Shell - Seahawks Beachum - Cardinals Osemele - Chiefs Winters - Bills Actually unbelievable. Jonathan Harrison with Bills too. We should have kept him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, UnknownJetFan said: All But Winters I believe. But, for Osemele and Shell they are playing on teams with HOF generational QBs so it makes blocking a lot easier. Even Beachem is on a team where the QB is coming into his own. I love Darnold, but right now no matter the reason bad coaching, bad skill players, etc. he is just not consistent at all, so blocking for him is that much harder. I know, I was a LG in HS and there is a big difference blocking depending on how good the QB is behind you. This is true but as you also know, sometimes it's harder to play for scrambling/off script QB's because you always have to your chin up looking for someone to block, the play is never over. That can be taxing. All of them also have significantly better weaponz who get open faster and more consistently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 O-line isn't the issue with the Jets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Just now, peebag said: O-line isn't the issue with the Jets. It's this psychopath. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetscrazey Posted September 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2020 Beachum is basically saying Gase doesn't understand line play, which totally makes sense. But hey, Peyton Manning loves him because his coffee was hot. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, peebag said: O-line isn't the issue with the Jets. Nope. LT is all set and Alex Lewis's job is way easier because of it. Fant blows and McGovern has been "meh", but it's not really a big problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 16 minutes ago, jetscrazey said: Beachum is basically saying Gase doesn't understand line play, which totally makes sense. But hey, Peyton Manning loves him because his coffee was hot. Perfect mix of sugar and cream because lets be real, Manning's dont drink their coffee black like real men. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 The list of players that have played so much better when they’re free from Gase is staggering. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, peebag said: O-line isn't the issue with the Jets. O design and play calling. HC is calling plays, and is assumed to be de facto QB coach. This guy Gase has got to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbloodblitz Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 You know what? **** both of these guys you shouldn't be 30 years old and need to be coached up. Take some initiative and figure out what the f*** your job is. I'm known to wax poetic about the young kids and undrafted free agents but I have no patience for millionaires who are fat and lazy and want to blame everybody else. Try being a leader instead of eating four fried chickens a day and standing around at 300 pounds waiting to be told what to do? How about them apples!? You've only been playing football since you're 7 years old but let's blame the city and the coach. It's laughable and the true definition of Man-child. You want to know why they brought Frank Gore in here? Cuz Frank Gore is a man and he doesn't need to be told what to do, he already knows what to do. Same goes for McLendon and Hogan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Irish Jet said: They’re literally all 2-0 except Kalil who retired. Shell - Seahawks-Starting at right T and playing about the same as Fant for less money. Beachum - Cardinals-Starting at right T and playing about the same as Fant for less money. Osemele - Chiefs-Starting at left G and would be upgrade over Lewis. Just a trainwreck situation. Winters - Bills-He does not play and we could have used him for depth for $2mm. Would he be better than GVR? Maybe, but at 2x the money. Actually unbelievable. I think as a general matter JD needs to focus on signing capable players rather than saving money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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