Jetsfan80 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 On 10/30/2020 at 11:55 AM, slimjasi said: While we are at it, we also might want to hold the Matt Rhule coach of the year T-shirts. They are suddenly 3-5 with back-to-back games coming up against the Chiefs and Bucs. Knew this kind of post would be coming. He's had that team highly competitive without its only star player. He remains legit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 7 hours ago, jgb said: Who would you suggest he extend on this garbage truck of a team? He could have extended robbie. Instead he extended ryan Griffin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 On 10/7/2020 at 9:58 AM, CTM said: Anderson play this year is just more proof of how much Darnold sucks. Fight me 15 hours ago, DarnoldHomer said: This may be the dumbest FB post I’ve ever read here. Truth hurts. Anderson put up similar numbers with other Jets QB's as he did with Darnold, and then "explodes" with a new team, HC and QB. That's evidence that Darnold was a big part of the reason why he wasn't as productive as he could have been. Outside of Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson and maybe 1-2 other examples.....the QB basically makes the WR. Not the other way around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 28 minutes ago, Losmeister said: disagree. Perri was sposed to be 3,mims2, imho Who was going to be the WR1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 19 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Who was going to be the WR1? theguy who has been,crowder....am talking targets 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 48 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Knew this kind of post would be coming. He's had that team highly competitive without its only star player. He remains legit. Injuries are only an excuse for Jets QBs and HCs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 41 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Truth hurts. Anderson put up similar numbers with other Jets QB's as he did with Darnold, and then "explodes" with a new team, HC and QB. That's evidence that Darnold was a big part of the reason why he wasn't as productive as he could have been. Outside of Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson and maybe 1-2 other examples.....the QB basically makes the WR. Not the other way around. Yup. QBs make their own weapons -- not the other way around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 49 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Knew this kind of post would be coming. He's had that team highly competitive without its only star player. He remains legit. Remains legit ? When did he get legit to begin with lol.. (on the pro level) Dudes a rookie head coach just cause he spurned the jets offer to be Mac's flunky doesnt make him legit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Losmeister said: theguy who has been,crowder....am talking targets Crowder has been the best guy on the offense for two years, but I still only consider him an above average Slot WR. He's not an X or a Z wide receiver. If we assume Mims can be one of those we still need a true outside WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 hour ago, CTM said: Remains legit ? When did he get legit to begin with lol.. (on the pro level) Dudes a rookie head coach just cause he spurned the jets offer to be Mac's flunky doesnt make him legit. It's a strong start. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 38 minutes ago, jgb said: It's a strong start. Eh..That's like saying starting a marathon by not tripping over your own 2 feet and breaking your ankle is a strong start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, CTM said: Eh..That's like saying starting a marathon by not tripping over your own 2 feet and breaking your ankle is a strong start It is. Love how now the narrative is everyone knew Rhule would be a success and he was smart to dodge us. Wonder how long it will take for perception to shift if Trevor dodges us. Most likely it will start as "Eff him if he doesn't want to be here." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 4 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Knew this kind of post would be coming. He's had that team highly competitive without its only star player. He remains legit. I like him, but I think he has been crowned prematurely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 3 hours ago, CTM said: Remains legit ? When did he get legit to begin with lol.. (on the pro level) Dudes a rookie head coach just cause he spurned the jets offer to be Mac's flunky doesnt make him legit. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 3 hours ago, CTM said: Remains legit ? When did he get legit to begin with lol.. (on the pro level) Dudes a rookie head coach just cause he spurned the jets offer to be Mac's flunky doesnt make him legit. Teddy Bridgewater is averaging 8.2 Yards per Attempt so far under Rhule's watch. By far the highest of his career, at the midway point of the season. Robby Anderson is having a career season. Rhule is well-respected and the team has looked sharp, even in losses. He did a good job of hiring a quality staff, headlined by Joe Brady. Wait until the requisite 2-3 years to "properly evaluate" Rhule if you wish, but he's legit. @Paradis can speak more on this if you need more reasons, though I think he's been quietly sobbing ever since he was hired by Carolina. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 31 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Teddy Bridgewater is averaging 8.2 Yards per Attempt so far under Rhule's watch. By far the highest of his career, at the midway point of the season. Robby Anderson is having a career season. Rhule is well-respected and the team has looked sharp, even in losses. He did a good job of hiring a quality staff, headlined by Joe Brady. Wait until the requisite 2-3 years to "properly evaluate" Rhule if you wish, but he's legit. @Paradis can speak more on this if you need more reasons, though I think he's been quietly sobbing ever since he was hired by Carolina. So how is.. he has a losing record in his first 8 games as a HC but hes actually legit because reasons Any dfferent than Darnold has terrible stats as an NFL QB but is actually good because reasons Rhule may or may not be good but you dont marry yourself to legit right out of the gate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 minute ago, CTM said: So how is.. he has a losing record in his first 8 games as a HC but hes actually legit because reasons Any dfferent than Darnold has terrible stats as an NFL QB but is actually good because reasons Rhule may or may not be good but you dont marry yourself to legit right out of the gate. I knew my wife was going to be the one in less than 8 weeks. The Panthers get McCaffrey back next week. That 3-5 start is going to be a moot point very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 41 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Teddy Bridgewater is averaging 8.2 Yards per Attempt so far under Rhule's watch. By far the highest of his career, at the midway point of the season. Robby Anderson is having a career season. Rhule is well-respected and the team has looked sharp, even in losses. He did a good job of hiring a quality staff, headlined by Joe Brady. Wait until the requisite 2-3 years to "properly evaluate" Rhule if you wish, but he's legit. @Paradis can speak more on this if you need more reasons, though I think he's been quietly sobbing ever since he was hired by Carolina. And we coulda had all four: Teddy, Robbie, Rhule, and Brady. Thanks, Johnsholes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 48 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Teddy Bridgewater is averaging 8.2 Yards per Attempt so far under Rhule's watch. By far the highest of his career, at the midway point of the season. Robby Anderson is having a career season. Rhule is well-respected and the team has looked sharp, even in losses. He did a good job of hiring a quality staff, headlined by Joe Brady. Wait until the requisite 2-3 years to "properly evaluate" Rhule if you wish, but he's legit. @Paradis can speak more on this if you need more reasons, though I think he's been quietly sobbing ever since he was hired by Carolina. To even question Rhule's coaching chops at this point @CTM is straight ass ignorant. Better question is - why would you doubt him? Simply b/c he wasn't in OC/DC in the NFL?... Why were NFL teams interested in him? They weren't interviewing 470 other college coaches from various programs. Why were industry folk like DJ throwing heaps of praise his way? Why is Carolina minus their best player on roster with no all stars - holding their own and then some? We don't deserve Rhule with pessimism like that. We deserve the next over-hyped coordinator who knows nothing about managing a roster and developing a culture. Got it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Paradis said: To even question Rhule's coaching chops at this point @CTM is straight ass ignorant. Better question is - why would you doubt him? Simply b/c he wasn't in OC/DC in the NFL?... Why were NFL teams interested in him? They weren't interviewing 470 other college coaches from various programs. Why were industry folk like DJ throwing heaps of praise his way? Why is Carolina minus their best player on roster with no all stars - holding their own and then some? We don't deserve Rhule with pessimism like that. We deserve the next over-hyped coordinator who knows nothing about managing a roster and developing a culture. Got it. but he gotz dem wepasoenasonzzz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 44 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: I knew my wife was going to be the one in less than 8 weeks. The Panthers get McCaffrey back next week. That 3-5 start is going to be a moot point very soon. Why can't Rhule call the good running plays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, CTM said: Why can't Rhule call the good running plays After McCaffrey got hurt, Mike Davis had 4 straight games with a TD (2 rushing, 2 receiving) before running into a couple elite run defenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 48 minutes ago, Paradis said: To even question Rhule's coaching chops at this point @CTM is straight ass ignorant. Better question is - why would you doubt him? Simply b/c he wasn't in OC/DC in the NFL?... Why were NFL teams interested in him? They weren't interviewing 470 other college coaches from various programs. Why were industry folk like DJ throwing heaps of praise his way? Why is Carolina minus their best player on roster with no all stars - holding their own and then some? We don't deserve Rhule with pessimism like that. We deserve the next over-hyped coordinator who knows nothing about managing a roster and developing a culture. Got it. Darnold was a consensus #1, we don't deserve him with our pessimism If all these coaches who made the jump from. college to pro succeeded you might have a point. But they dont, right now hes 3-5 and just lost to a 1 win team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: After McCaffrey got hurt, Mike Davis had 4 straight games with a TD (2 rushing, 2 receiving) before running into a couple elite run defenses. Yes clearly 3-5 is basically 8-0 now that you put it that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, CTM said: Yes clearly 3-5 is basically 8-0 now that you put it that way Yes clearly its a waste of time to try to evaluate any coach in context, based on his resume and how the pro team he's coaching has looked on the field. I'll check back in with you on this in a year or 2. My guess is your posts on the matter won't have aged well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, CTM said: Darnold was a consensus #1, we don't deserve him with our pessimism If all these coaches who made the jump from. college to pro succeeded you might have a point. But they dont, right now hes 3-5 and just lost to a 1 win team. 1) Sam Darnold has absolutely nothing to do with Matt Rhule, and I have no earthly idea what point you're trying to make by inserting him into this particular discussion. 2) Nearly all college head coaches who make the jump come from juggernaut programs that were already good before they arrived at those programs. Rhule completely turned around Temple and Baylor, two struggling programs at the time without much historic success to speak of. Big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: 1) Sam Darnold has absolutely nothing to do with Matt Rhule, and I have no earthly idea what point you're trying to make by inserting him into this particular discussion. 2) Nearly all college head coaches who make the jump come from juggernaut programs that were already good before they arrived at those programs. Rhule completely turned around Temple and Baylor, two struggling programs at the time without much historic success to speak of. Big difference. 1) Because you mock those who today still cling to thier intial belief that Darnold was legit because it's hard to do a 180 once you are sold on a position.. You are setting yourself up for similiar and your whole he's passing the eye test damn what the record says rationale for why hes actually not losing but off to a rip roaring start reminds me of dahnaldphiles 2) So, are we assume that has positive predictive value for nfl success just because it sounds nice ? Again, I'm trolling a bjt but also a kinda blown away that you are already convinced the guy is a great nfl coach and there is no need to take a wait and see approach. I have no what he'll turn into but I know making quick assessments is often folly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Yes clearly its a waste of time to try to evaluate any coach in context, based on his resume and how the pro team he's coaching has looked on the field. I'll check back in with you on this in a year or 2. My guess is your posts on the matter won't have aged well. My posts saying let's hold off on the coronation will surely look foolish .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, CTM said: 1) Because you mock those who today still cling to thier intial belief that Darnold was legit because it's hard to do a 180 once you are sold on a position.. You are setting yourself up for similiar and your whole he's passing the eye test damn what the record says rationale for why hes actually not losing but off to a rip roaring start reminds me of dahnaldphiles 2) So, are we assume that has positive predictive value for nfl success just because it sounds nice ? Again, I'm trolling a bjt but also a kinda blown away that you are already convinced the guy is a great nfl coach and there is no need to take a wait and see approach. I have no what he'll turn into but I know making quick assessments is often folly 1) I don't mock anyone for thinking Darnold could be legit. I still believed he could be a franchise QB until Week 1 of this season. Either way he still has absolutely nothing to do with Rhule. 2) I was convinced Rhule would be an excellent HC before he coached a game, so I don't see what's so surprising. Chalk it up to confirmation bias if you want, I guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, CTM said: My posts saying let's hold off on the coronation will surely look foolish .. Cautious and conservative predictions are for pu$$ies. This is a silly sports message board. Make bold predictions or GTFO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 4 hours ago, jetstream23 said: Crowder has been the best guy on the offense for two years, but I still only consider him an above average Slot WR. He's not an X or a Z wide receiver. If we assume Mims can be one of those we still need a true outside WR. again, wasnt talking x,y,z... but #targets... crowder gets the lions share. i'dlike that to change andbe mims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 31 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Cautious and conservative predictions are for pu$$ies. This is a silly sports message board. Make bold predictions or GTFO. You are saying hes legit today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 34 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: was convinced Rhule would be an excellent HC before he coached a game, so I don't see what's so surprising. Chalk it up to confirmation bias if you want, I guess? You already have your answer and are looking for supporting evidence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 hour ago, CTM said: Darnold was a consensus #1, we don't deserve him with our pessimism If all these coaches who made the jump from. college to pro succeeded you might have a point. But they dont, right now hes 3-5 and just lost to a 1 win team. Look, you're not sold - then nothing i'm gonna say will convince you. Let's revisit in 2-3 years. I honestly don't know if he has what it takes to get to a Superbowl... I just know he's a true HC and a real culture establishing/program developing leader... and for the love of god, the Jets have never needed such a personality more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnoldHomer Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 8 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Truth hurts. Anderson put up similar numbers with other Jets QB's as he did with Darnold, and then "explodes" with a new team, HC and QB. That's evidence that Darnold was a big part of the reason why he wasn't as productive as he could have been. Outside of Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson and maybe 1-2 other examples.....the QB basically makes the WR. Not the other way around. This is much better effort. Bravo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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