jgb Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 If we hire an OC, we all know after Greg Roman rejects our offer it’s gonna be Schotty. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 hour ago, adb280z said: Kinda like how Gase is a "genius" and sucks here. Adam Gase is 6-4 in his last 10 games in New York. Genius? With this roster and being this injured? Maybe he is. SAR I 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Strategy is good but a head coach also needs to be a teacher and leader of men. We have to make sure he's that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 9 hours ago, FidelioJet said: If you go this route you use the high first on another T, low first on a WR/TE, 2nd rounder on G, 3rd on a bruising RB. Sign the best G you can find in FA and best WR/TE you can find i FA (pay whatever it takes we have the money) And you have a team... Do whatever you want with the defense after that. Haven’t you heard from the vultures on here / we are drafting Trevor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 2 hours ago, SAR I said: Adam Gase is 6-4 in his last 10 games in New York. Genius? With this roster and being this injured? Maybe he is. SAR I And you have 10 buttfumbles in your last 12 posts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 13 hours ago, SAR I said: Adam Gase is 6-4 in his last 10 games in New York. Genius? With this roster and being this injured? Maybe he is. SAR I Hand pick stats much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSNY Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 6 hours ago, SAR I said: Adam Gase is 6-4 in his last 10 games in New York. Genius? With this roster and being this injured? Maybe he is. SAR I SAR 1 Excluding the years he had with Peyton Manning his offenses have generally ranked in the bottom half of the NFL so can you please explain your rational as Adam Gase being an offensive genius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 9 hours ago, SAR I said: Amazing how all these coordinators are called "genius" when they have great quarterbacks and running backs. It's almost, I don't know, coincidental. SAR I Like Tannehill? Its too bad we couldn’t see what Gase and he could do together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Sounds like a good OC. The article doesn't make the argument for him to be the HC. It's not the same job. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamathToCaster Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 I'm sorry. No more college coordinators or up and coming candidates. I want a seasoned NFL coach. We had the chance with McCarthy and we blew it. Could he have done any worse than Gase? Get me Jeff Fisher. Laugh if you want, but he could not be any worse than Gase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 Sean Payton comparison is high priase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 8 hours ago, SAR I said: Adam Gase is 6-4 in his last 10 games in New York. Genius? With this roster and being this injured? Maybe he is. SAR I I’m all for a little trolling now and again - if that’s your thing. And it seems to be. But I gotta be honest, it’s just starting to look silly now. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 It’s week 3... that kid that Manish wrote that article about is starting to look like the kid from War Games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 11 hours ago, jgb said: Really warms my heart to read that It’s totally ironical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Biggs said: Sounds like a good OC. The article doesn't make the argument for him to be the HC. It's not the same job. All it says is he checks the box on leader of men. Then “drops the ball” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettyBoop Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 10 hours ago, SAR I said: Adam Gase is 6-4 in his last 10 games in New York. Genius? With this roster and being this injured? Maybe he is. SAR I Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying. I don't speak bullsh*t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 12 hours ago, adb280z said: Kinda like how Gase is a "genius" and sucks everywherehe has been, aside from where Peyton Manning ran his own Offense from the line of scrimmage and treated the "OC" like a research intern. fixed even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adb280z Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 11 hours ago, SAR I said: Adam Gase is 6-4 in his last 10 games in New York. Genius? With this roster and being this injured? Maybe he is. SAR I Why don't you count the 1-7 games? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 4 hours ago, CSNY said: SAR 1 Excluding the years he had with Peyton Manning his offenses have generally ranked in the bottom half of the NFL so can you please explain your rational as Adam Gase being an offensive genius I never said he was an offensive genius. I said I really don't care if he's an OC anymore because he's proven to me that he's a very good HC and that's more important. What I also said is that a) after the 6-2 finish he showed me that he is a good leader and improviser, b) he's a hard-ass who doesn't take crap from anyone, c) he rightfully got Maccagnan fired which led to getting Douglas, d) he hired Williams who is a great DC, and e) he survived the worst unfair onslaught of media hate in NY history with his coaches and players supporting him. Gase doesn't deserve to get fired, and the jury is still out on his offensive abilities because of the unprecedented injuries we've faced the last two years. That's all I'm saying. Not rocket science. It's dumb Eeyore Mets fans who whine about everything that are making too much noise for their tiny minority. SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Butterfield said: Like Tannehill? Its too bad we couldn’t see what Gase and he could do together. Tannehill is a mediocre quarterback. Gase got that bum to take the awful Dolphins to the playoffs. That's a fantastic accomplishment right there, it would be as if Bowles got Geno to the playoffs. SAR I 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 2 hours ago, FidelioJet said: I’m all for a little trolling now and again - if that’s your thing. And it seems to be. But I gotta be honest, it’s just starting to look silly now. When a team fans predict to go 5-11 goes 5-11, that's meeting expectations. I'm sure none of you in your brilliant prognostications had the Jets beating the Bills on the road and the NFC champion 49ers. Yet here we are, a lynch mob, because we lost two games you said we were going to lose. You're the ones trolling yourselves. "We suck, we have the worst roster in the league, no weapons, no OL, Maccagnan killed us!" out of the left side of your mouths, "Gase isn't making us a playoff team, our offense is weak!" out of the right side of your mouths. It's time for the hypocrisy to stop. SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, adb280z said: Why don't you count the 1-7 games? Why don't you recognize the league-high injuries? We had 18 players on IR last year and currently have 14 on IR or PUP, make that 15 with opt-outs, and it's Week 2. SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSNY Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 12 hours ago, SAR I said: Adam Gase is 6-4 in his last 10 games in New York. Genius? With this roster and being this injured? Maybe he is. SAR I SAR 1 I saw the reply but still Can’t see how you can even think Gase maybe be an offensive genius. To me offensive geniuses are in the mold of Sean Payton Andy Reid Sid Gilman Bill Walsh etc etc which Gase doesn’t come close to I truly don’t think he is a good coach but he as with Sam should be given a chance until some injured players get back and they both can be fairly evaluated. He has to get the squad with the players he has available to be at the least ready to play and at the very least be competitive. I also believe he should not have said that he wouldn’t change any of his play calls as he felt they are perfect which to me is laying blame on others not himself which I don’t think displays leadership at all as he is the head coach and should take full responsibility for the product on the field and not use the injury excuse as every team has them such as the Niners last week. I’d like nothing more than Gase and Sam to succeed but I don’t think either one is up to the task ( Gase more so than Darnold ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 58 minutes ago, CSNY said: SAR 1 I saw the reply but still Can’t see how you can even think Gase maybe be an offensive genius. Forget the offensive genius stuff. That’s a media creation. Gase has the potential to be a great head coach. That’s what you should be excited about. 1-7 into 6-2, no players backstabbing, all coordinators and position coaches returning. The whole team is loyal to him and focused on winning his way. Offensive coordinators are easy to find. Head coaches? Impossible. Gase is an animal. Cleaned house. Punted Maccagnan. Hired Joe Douglas. Got Manish fired. Handles the media brilliantly. The guy is a beast. Let him go hire an offensive coordinator and we’re all set. SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 hour ago, SAR I said: When a team fans predict to go 5-11 goes 5-11, that's meeting expectations. I'm sure none of you in your brilliant prognostications had the Jets beating the Bills on the road and the NFC champion 49ers. Yet here we are, a lynch mob, because we lost two games you said we were going to lose. You're the ones trolling yourselves. "We suck, we have the worst roster in the league, no weapons, no OL, Maccagnan killed us!" out of the left side of your mouths, "Gase isn't making us a playoff team, our offense is weak!" out of the right side of your mouths. It's time for the hypocrisy to stop. SAR I Here's where I'll agree with you. I've been one of the biggest detractors of Gase on this site. Hated it at first and still believe it to be a terrible choice (for many reasons) But yes, this roster is disgusting and no coach could win with it...I've gone as far as to say if Gase goes .500 it would be a "masterful" job and he should be extended. I stand by that. It's when you have a bottom 5 roster and bottom 3 coach - that's when you get what we have...not just a team that won't win, but a team that's not even competitive. QB is regressing, team's already quit...those are on the coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 22 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Here's where I'll agree with you. I've been one of the biggest detractors of Gase on this site. Hated it at first and still believe it to be a terrible choice (for many reasons) But yes, this roster is disgusting and no coach could win with it...I've gone as far as to say if Gase goes .500 it would be a "masterful" job and he should be extended. I stand by that. It's when you have a bottom 5 roster and bottom 3 coach - that's when you get what we have...not just a team that won't win, but a team that's not even competitive. QB is regressing, team's already quit...those are on the coach. Good post, and I'm in the same camp with one asterisk: Before we judge on team-competitiveness and Darnold-regressing, let's see what the O looks like when we have Crowder, Perriman, Mims, Herndon, and Bell on the field at the same time. For 2-3 games. I think that's a fair ask. SAR I 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacarter220 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 15 hours ago, SAR I said: Amazing how all these coordinators are called "genius" when they have great quarterbacks and running backs. It's almost, I don't know, coincidental. SAR I Two of the coordinators mentioned in this thread (and the main one that the thread is about) are Arthur Smith and Brian Daboll. Are you calling Tannehill, and acknowledging Josh Allen as a "great quarterback?" I think I might tear up a little bit... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, SAR I said: Good post, and I'm in the same camp with one asterisk: Before we judge on team-competitiveness and Darnold-regressing, let's see what the O looks like when we have Crowder, Perriman, Mims, Herndon, and Bell on the field at the same time. For 2-3 games. I think that's a fair ask. SAR I Fair enough. What I've seen from Sam in the first two weeks is regression but you're correct, two weeks - under these circumstances - is unfair. They've been entirely uncompetitive - pretty much out of the game after the first quarter. The other teams had injuries too, but I will agree two weeks - with this revamped roster - and the whole Covid thing makes it tough for a new roster to gel. Both the Bills and Niners were bringing back a lot of their roster - so who knows.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 2 hours ago, SAR I said: Tannehill is a mediocre quarterback. Gase got that bum to take the awful Dolphins to the playoffs. That's a fantastic accomplishment right there, it would be as if Bowles got Geno to the playoffs. SAR I Adam Gase, is that you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 16 minutes ago, jacarter220 said: Are you calling Tannehill, and acknowledging Josh Allen as a "great quarterback?" I think I might tear up a little bit... RG4 is not a great quarterback. He's a running back with bad technique and a high risk attitude. ACL MCL PCL LCL Which one will ruin Buffalo's season? Not sure, but it's inevitable. SAR I 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 23 minutes ago, jacarter220 said: Two of the coordinators mentioned in this thread (and the main one that the thread is about) are Arthur Smith and Brian Daboll. Are you calling Tannehill, and acknowledging Josh Allen as a "great quarterback?" I think I might tear up a little bit... It sucks to have a troll that’s not even good or thorough in their trolling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, SAR I said: RG4 is not a great quarterback. He's a running back with bad technique and a high risk attitude. ACL MCL PCL LCL Which one will ruin Buffalo's season? Not sure, but it's inevitable. SAR I If it happened tomorrow, with 2 wins, he would still have more than the jets will all year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 SAR is easily the worst poster on this message board and possibly the worst non-intentional troll poster of all time on any board. Please stop quoting him so I don't have to see his mindless drivel. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacarter220 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 5 hours ago, NamathToCaster said: I'm sorry. No more college coordinators or up and coming candidates. I want a seasoned NFL coach. We had the chance with McCarthy and we blew it. Could he have done any worse than Gase? Get me Jeff Fisher. Laugh if you want, but he could not be any worse than Gase. Well nobody could be worse than Gase. But I have a hard time believing Jeff Fisher will get Jets anywhere past mediocrity. Granted, that's better than where they're at now, but still. Not exactly setting the bar high. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 27 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: SAR is easily the worst poster on this message board and possibly the worst non-intentional troll poster of all time on any board. Please stop quoting him so I don't have to see his mindless drivel. Did you give your dad his Tebow jersey back? SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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